The organisation of this tournament is shocking- what am I supposed to do now for 2 days with no matches at 5pm
SORT IT OUT UEFA
Seen lots of people talk about this other teams being there for the taking!! Think it’s nonsense as was proved when Sterling lost the ball and we were attacking they were straight through
It's not about unquestionable faith its about applying logic to your concerns, something many on here don't do, admittedly it works both ways and there needs to be grounds for peoples optimism.
This is about right, yeah.
Just a bit of balance really- if you don’t like the way we play that’s all good and I like reading the opinions both ways, but not the stupid moaning.
I actually don’t think Germany were that impressive. We are a better team, we should have beaten them and doing just that is not such a massive deal. It was more of a psychological hurdle I think, that’s why everyone loved it so much.
And that’s another thing that’s changing, if we’re serious about being contenders at tournaments then we need to expect to compete and beat teams like Germany, and see these games as stepping stones to the final, not these huge emotionally draining events. I sense we’re starting to think that way now, which is great.
Sure I’m sorry to be reactionaryThat was just an awful pass. The ‘there for the taking comment’ was relating to the fact that if you get at Germany with pace, they struggle. People will rightly mention the Portugal match (they looked great in the game - Southgate nullified them on the wings though), but then again Hungary were less than ten mins away from knocking them out.
Southgates got his game plans and it’s working. I was just saying as I saw it before we scored, scrappy in patches but we did the job and I’ll take that every time
Sure I’m sorry to be reactionary
Controversial take 1: Stones would have been more at fault for the the goal than Sterling had Muller put his chance away. If Stones commits completely to the challenge on Havertz, instead of indecisively farting about and playing Muller onside in the process, he would have easily won the ball and stopped the attack.
Controversial take 2: Grealish should be used as an impact sub if required for the rest of the tournament. I'd much rather Sancho/Foden/Saka/Mount start over him, and believe Grealish is best utilised off the bench for England.
Controversial take 3: People who complain about booing, be it the knee or national anthems, are just as pathetic as those doing the booing. Shut up.
Controversial take 4: We will get to the final and get slapped by Belgium.
I think we will win the whole thing against Italy in the final .
I think we will win the whole thing against Italy in the final .
Weird feeling the Italians will put the Belgians on their arses.
Last night was fucking unreal, the best atmosphere at the New Wembley I have experienced with England. I saw 20-30 Cov fans I know before and after the game, fantastic to see back at a game
We've lost 3 competitive matches at the new Wembley in 14 years
Who were they to? One was Germany wasn't it?
3 losses: Croatia 2007 Euro Quals, Spain 2018 Nations League, Denmark 2020 Nations League
There we go , somehow missed the Spain score ...cheers
Not sure I've just seen we've lost 3 in 35 competitive matches
We also lost 6 friendlies
Edit : just looked 1 was against Denmark
Croatia another years ago
Actually we've lost 2 competitive games in 35 I think , Germany was a friendly
29-Jun-21 | Germany | Euros | W | 2 0 |
22-Jun-21 | Czech Republic | Euros | W | 1 0 |
18-Jun-21 | Scotland | Euros | D | 0 0 |
13-Jun-21 | Croatia | Euros | W | 1 0 |
31-Mar-21 | Poland | WCP | W | 2 1 |
25-Mar-21 | San Marino | WCP | W | 5 0 |
18-Nov-20 | Iceland | UNL A2 | W | 4 0 |
14-Oct-20 | Denmark | UNL A2 | L | 0 1 |
11-Oct-20 | Belgium | UNL A2 | W | 2 1 |
14-Nov-19 | Montenegro | ECP | W | 7 0 |
07-Sep-19 | Bulgaria | ECP | W | 4 0 |
22-Mar-19 | Czech Republic | ECP | W | 5 0 |
18-Nov-18 | Croatia | UNL A | W | 2 1 |
08-Sep-18 | Spain | UNL A | L | 0 1 |
05-Oct-17 | Slovenia | WCP | W | 1 0 |
04-Sep-17 | Slovakia | WCP | W | 2 1 |
26-Mar-17 | Lithuania | WCP | W | 2 0 |
11-Nov-16 | Scotland | WCP | W | 3 0 |
08-Oct-16 | Malta | WCP | W | 2 0 |
09-Oct-15 | Estonia | ECP | W | 2 0 |
08-Sep-15 | Switzerland | ECP | W | 2 0 |
27-Mar-15 | Lithuania | ECP | W | 4 0 |
15-Nov-14 | Slovenia | ECP | W | 3 1 |
09-Oct-14 | San Marino | ECP | W | 5 0 |
15-Oct-13 | Poland | WCP | W | 2 0 |
11-Oct-13 | Montenegro | WCP | W | 4 1 |
06-Sep-13 | Moldova | WCP | W | 4 0 |
12-Oct-12 | San Marino | WCP | W | 5 0 |
11-Sep-12 | Ukraine | WCP | D | 1 1 |
06-Sep-11 | Wales | ECP | W | 1 0 |
04-Jun-11 | Switzerland | ECP | D | 2 2 |
12-Oct-10 | Montenegro | ECP | D | 0 0 |
03-Sep-10 | Bulgaria | ECP | W | 4 0 |
| 10/14/2009 | Belarus | WCP | W | 3 0 |
09-Sep-09 | Croatia | WCP | W | 5 1 |
06-Oct-09 | Andorra | WCP | W | 6 0 |
04-Jan-09 | Ukraine | WCP | W | 2 1 |
10-Nov-08 | Kazakhstan | WCP | W | 5 1* |
| 11/21/2007 | Croatia | ECP | L | 2 3 |
| 10/13/2007 | Estonia | ECP | W | 3 0 |
09-Dec-07 | Russia | ECP | W | 3 0 |
09-Aug-07 | Israel | ECP | W | 3 0 |
Controversial take 1: Stones would have been more at fault for the the goal than Sterling had Muller put his chance away. If Stones commits completely to the challenge on Havertz, instead of indecisively farting about and playing Muller onside in the process, he would have easily won the ball and stopped the attack.
Controversial take 2: Grealish should be used as an impact sub if required for the rest of the tournament. I'd much rather Sancho/Foden/Saka/Mount start over him, and believe Grealish is best utilised off the bench for England.
Controversial take 3: People who complain about booing, be it the knee or national anthems, are just as pathetic as those doing the booing. Shut up.
Controversial take 4: We will get to the final and get slapped by Belgium.
Why the hype around Belgium? They aren’t the team they were in 2018. With De Bruyne injured, Eden Hazard not at his best and an ageing defence. Despite Lukaku’s form, I don’t fancy them. We also beat Belgium the last time we played, somehow...
A Belgium-England final would be an ideal scenario for me. Either football is coming home, and if it doesn’t, I win the sweepstake at work!
should have put him in a stone islandWhy is there so much focus on what Prince George was wearing?! He probably liked looking smart. I’d have worn a short dress and garters if it meant I got to go!
It's been such a weird tournament that has lead us to only having one QF game of any real quality.
England should now make the final. We really shouldn't be complacent but I'm hopeful that Southgate will make sure they're up for it.
It's been such a weird tournament that has lead us to only having one QF game of any real quality.
England should now make the final. We really shouldn't be complacent but I'm hopeful that Southgate will make sure they're up for it.
should have put him in a stone island
Think we can rely on him to continue with the pragmatic approach. Think the players have a lot of faith in him.
Oh definitely.
Not getting to the final is now a significant failure. Not as in "Southgate out" failure, but a major letdown.
I'm even reflecting that Germany weren't actually all that yesterday, I think the emotion and hype overtook everyone. We are a better team than Germany, and whats more we had way more on the bench.
This is not arrogance btw, just an attempt to adjust the mindset to a winning mentality, which has been one of our biggest weaknesses over the years, the ability to choke.
Not sure arrogance ever played a part for most people. More sense of opportunity, final is now realistic expectation.
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