I agree with you to a degree but when these tragedies are at the forefront of peoples mind isn't it when we should be getting our politicians to cut ties with radical regimes, stop underfunding emergency services and actually get their arse in gear about sorting it out.Absolutely devastated by this news. I was driving up to Yorkshire this morning and they were talking about young girls around 8yrs old attending which as a dad of two just brings it all back to your doorstep, nearly in tears just thinking about it all.
Switched to Talksport but even they couldn't really talk about anything else.
Its disappointing that people are trying to use this type of event to manoeuvre their political views into the argument. Show some respect and pop the politics on the shelf for now.
Right wing rants?
A nail bomb has just gone off at a fucking children's concert.
Get a sense of perspective.
Yet again "known to security services".They should have more power / freedom when it comes to "being known" and stopping them, bollocks to human rights and red tape.
i'm pretty sure they say "known to security services" as a reassurance, because if they said " we had no fucking idea this person was going to commit this horrible thing" it just makes the general public even more scared.
Not sure what's more scary to be honest :/
Fucking despicable this atrocity, keep seeing this posted, weird how they all seem to happen on the 22nd!
22-05-13 Lee Rigby
22-03-16 Brussels attack
22-07-16 Munich attack
22-03-17 London attack
22-05-17 Manchester attack
22-07-17 ???
Can you see a pattern?
WTF Your birthday is on the same day each year. It doesn't follow that pattern at all.my birthday follows that pattern
problem is they estimate there is over 1000 that have been to Syria/Iraq and come back again. Add on the number of radicals that haven't left the country and it's almost an impossible task to watch them all.Yet again "known to security services".They should have more power / freedom when it comes to "being known" and stopping them, bollocks to human rights and red tape.
should open up whatsapp encryption
problem is can we trust government or media not to use your info,rather than sticking to terrorism hunting
They can use whatever info of mine they like. I've nothing to hide.
I hope we are warming up the bombers on the runway. Can we eradicate this evil bunch now please?
problem is they estimate there is over 1000 that have been to Syria/Iraq and come back again. Add on the number of radicals that haven't left the country and it's almost an impossible task to watch them all.
Rest of Europe (those part of ECJ) seem to have a far more liberal interpretation of human rights etc. when it comes to terrorism than we do. Add in the lack of co-operation from main internet companies/social media companies who bleat about freedoms etc. but are more interested in profits than human lives.
I haven't agreed with much of what Trump has said since his inauguration but even he got it right today:
“I will call them, from now on, losers, because that’s what they are. I won’t call them monsters because they would like that term. They would think that’s a great name. They’re losers.”
Other words that spring to mind, which he could have used to describe a person who thought that their agenda would be furthered by deliberately targeting a pop concert for schoolgirls, would be “bellends”, “fucking twats” and “shitheads”.
Apologies for the bad language but I lived in Manchester for a couple of years and my blood is boiling that anyone would think that bombing a kids' concert would serve some sort of justifiable purpose.
I think it would be reasonable to say to people that if they chose to go to certain places where this radicalisation takes place that their passports will be revoked once they leave our shores.
But then he goes and signs a arms deal with Saudi Arabia... how much of a fucking hypocrite is he?
Where does he think they get their money from?????
No the cause is that a vacuum has been created that allowed this type of extremism to fester and then spread.
There is nowhere in any religious document for any major religion where this kind of behaviour is justified.
That doesn't mean there can't be more done by religions like Islam to try and eradicate this behaviour, but the religion is not to blame. It lies in the hands of those who use it to manipulate those into doing such heinous acts.
ISIS get their billions from Saudis....
You can't afford to make a mistake. Better sure and slow than wrong.so sad reading about parents appealing for help finding their kids. its been 12 hours are bodies not identified this quick?
Excepts from Koran that prove you talk shit.
This verse is used as an excuse for Muslims to kill Yazidis.
(2) “When the sacred months have passed, then kill the Mushrikin wherever you find them. Capture them. Besiege them. Lie in wait for them in each and every ambush but if they repent, and perform the prayers, and give zacat then leave their way free.” 9:5
Here is a lovely bit.
(4) “Kill them wherever you find them and drive them out from where they drove you out. Persecution is worse than slaughter.” 2:191
and another beaut.
(5) “When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks.” 47:4
sweet
8) “Oh you who believe, fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you and let them find harshness in you.” 9:123
That book was written 1500 years ago and promotes wholly inappropriate behaviour for modern time.
Unbelievers to smite. That book as plenty of stuff that can be used to justify murder, Islam was spread largly by conquest and enslavement, fact.So 8 year olds at a concert are Yazidis....?
Unbelievers to smite. That book as plenty of stuff that can be used to justify murder, Islam was spread largly by conquest and enslavement, fact.
Tribe in N Persia/Iran who worships an archaic Angle figure that Muslims say is the devil. Its all bollocks of course.Just me googling what a Yazidis is?
I don't disagree. Look up how Charlemagne 'converted' the Saxons from their pagan religion.Sounds an awful lot like Christianity....
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