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I'll go on about the everyday Muslims on Radio 5 saying suicide bombers are worse than animals...
Mostly, people are people, and want to live in peace with one another. Shame a minority always agitate.
people keep going on about Muslims this and Muslims that
I'll go on about the everyday Muslims on Radio 5 saying suicide bombers are worse than animals...
Mostly, people are people, and want to live in peace with one another. Shame a minority always agitate.
people keep going on about Muslims this and Muslims that, the groups in the biggest danger from this ideology are non Sunni Muslims groups.
We are in bed with the sponsors of Wahhabism, we have allowed them to spread their mantra worldwide. It needs stopping.
Did you see Amir Khan on GMT? insensitive to question was he really Muslim who commited the atrocity & bringing up islamophobia. This Will never end whilst so many bury their heads.
Every call to curtail civil liberties that is in practice aimed at muslim people will increase not decrease the chances of future terrorist action. Every call to ramp up violence in the middle east will increase not decrease the chances of more innocent people being killed somewhere else in the UK.
I get your point but it's not like the guy the other night was a Saudi, he was British. We need to look at the reasons why people are joining and being radicalised, they're not doing it for a laugh or for Facebook likes. The mosques say it's not them and they are peace loving, but there is a breeding ground for these often young men somewhere being brainwashed into an ideology that's fucked up. Unless we stop the root cause this will continue.
I get your point but it's not like the guy the other night was a Saudi, he was British. We need to look at the reasons why people are joining and being radicalised, they're not doing it for a laugh or for Facebook likes. The mosques say it's not them and they are peace loving, but there is a breeding ground for these often young men somewhere being brainwashed into an ideology that's fucked up. Unless we stop the root cause this will continue.
There are lots of complex reasons I'm sure - I feel one potential solution can be linked to education and how we can ensure that these young men (and women!) feel they are part of a wider British community and they are valued as much as every other person born on these shores.
When we discuss groups of people in this country (especially white people) we talk about them being English, Irish, Scottish - rarely Catholic, Protestant, Atheist... When groups of people from Asian descent are discussed - the go-to word is Muslim. A religion is not a nationality, and too easily the press gloss over the nationality and go straight to the religion.
its a shame terrorism has to happen on home soil to make people care about children dying
we need to fix this world, all of it.
i just received an email through our Birmingham council colleagues confirming that the threat level is now critical. The email states that an attack is not only highly likely but imminent. Scary stuff.....
i just received an email through our Birmingham council colleagues confirming that the threat level is now critical. The email states that an attack is not only highly likely but imminent. Scary stuff.....
Its been raised everywhere hasn't it not just Brum? Wonder if its based on any actual intelligence or just the fact that a couple of things have happened recently?i just received an email through our Birmingham council colleagues confirming that the threat level is now critical. The email states that an attack is not only highly likely but imminent. Scary stuff.....
Ours definitely plays it as the 'we have to be cautious' way, rather than 'something will be targeted at us' way.Its been raised everywhere hasn't it not just Brum? Wonder if its based on any actual intelligence or just the fact that a couple of things have happened recently?
Not sure how having the army outside Downing Street and Buckingham Palace is going to help. Not like they were places you could easily get to anyway.
Police have said its not terror related.Apparently a bloke arrested at Buckingham Palace with a knife.
probably but I didn't get a email from other councils!!Its been raised everywhere hasn't it not just Brum? Wonder if its based on any actual intelligence or just the fact that a couple of things have happened recently?
Not sure how having the army outside Downing Street and Buckingham Palace is going to help. Not like they were places you could easily get to anyway.
It's only going to get worse, especially whilst people are intent on burying their heads in the sand.
There are lots of complex reasons I'm sure - I feel one potential solution can be linked to education and how we can ensure that these young men (and women!) feel they are part of a wider British community and they are valued as much as every other person born on these shores.
When we discuss groups of people in this country (especially white people) we talk about them being English, Irish, Scottish - rarely Catholic, Protestant, Atheist... When groups of people from Asian descent are discussed - the go-to word is Muslim. A religion is not a nationality, and too easily the press gloss over the nationality and go straight to the religion.
can you explain that comment? Who is burying their heads about what?
It's always about what we apparently don't do. The problem is that we've bent too far and now have a mollycoddled Muslim community with a sense of entitlement. Sickening hearing the head of the Muslim society at a Manchester University interviewed, the first comment he made was about supposed revenge attacks on Muslims in the university.There are lots of complex reasons I'm sure - I feel one potential solution can be linked to education and how we can ensure that these young men (and women!) feel they are part of a wider British community and they are valued as much as every other person born on these shores.
When we discuss groups of people in this country (especially white people) we talk about them being English, Irish, Scottish - rarely Catholic, Protestant, Atheist... When groups of people from Asian descent are discussed - the go-to word is Muslim. A religion is not a nationality, and too easily the press gloss over the nationality and go straight to the religion.
people are intent on burying their heads in the sand.
So what's the solution? Do you suggest locking up or deporting all 1st / 2nd generation Brits? Or are we going off skin colour or some other sort of profiling?What limp-wristed liberalist rubbish.
Damn rightits a shame terrorism has to happen on home soil to make people care about children dying
we need to fix this world, all of it.
That little twat has unsurprisingly just come back from Libya.So what's the solution? Do you suggest locking up or deporting all 1st / 2nd generation Brits? Or are we going off skin colour or some other sort of profiling?
Its not like people need to travel overseas to become radicalised and even those that do how do you track them? They aren't boarding flights to training camps, they're going to other countries that don't have strong borders controls and crossing, often unknown to anyone.
There's been suggestions of 'bombing them off the face of the earth', where should we bomb? It's not like WW1 or WW2 where the enemy was a country.
And if we do 'wipe them off the face of the earth' what has changed that will stop the same thing that led to the rise is IS and Al Queda before them? Remove one lot and you create a power vacuum.
Yep people vent but have no solution bar revenge and violence as if we've not tried thatSo what's the solution? Do you suggest locking up or deporting all 1st / 2nd generation Brits? Or are we going off skin colour or some other sort of profiling?
Its not like people need to travel overseas to become radicalised and even those that do how do you track them? They aren't boarding flights to training camps, they're going to other countries that don't have strong borders controls and crossing, often unknown to anyone.
There's been suggestions of 'bombing them off the face of the earth', where should we bomb? It's not like WW1 or WW2 where the enemy was a country.
And if we do 'wipe them off the face of the earth' what has changed that will stop the same thing that led to the rise is IS and Al Queda before them? Remove one lot and you create a power vacuum.
The problem is they aren't travelling direct to Libya. They will be going to places like Egypt or even Italy and entering from there. How do you control that? You can't ban British citizens from coming back in to the country if they've been to Italy.That little twat has unsurprisingly just come back from Libya.
Trump may be onto something with banning travellers from those danger areas.
The problem is they aren't travelling direct to Libya. They will be going to places like Egypt or even Italy and entering from there. How do you control that? You can't ban British citizens from coming back in to the country if they've been to Italy.
Similarly you can't start bombing Libya, you have exactly the same problem as with Syria. Its not a straightforward one side against the other.
Careful @chiefdave shall be along asking what we do about the un-knowns.Everytime something like this happens, it comes out they they were 'known' to the authorities. How about we get all these people that are 'known' which apparently there are a few thousand, and get rid of them.
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