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SkyBlueSoul
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C’moooon Duel in the Desert mk II 
Paul Anthony
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What a race! Let's have a full season of that, thank you very much!!
SkyBlueSoul
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That was extraordinary, I was already excited for this season but my god. More of that please!
Big shout for Lando too, very solid race
Big shout for Lando too, very solid race
Saddlebrains
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Red Bull lost Max that race. Absolute nowhere strategy
SkyBlueSoul
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Confused me, they’ve been stronger all weekend and Mercedes have struggled with the rear so surely they’d have just covered the stop assuming Hamilton’s tyres would drop off.
That being said, 1m to the right at the exit of turn 4 and he wins
Paul Anthony
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The irony being race control didn't really give a hoot about track limits at turn 4 until Verstappen and Red Bull complained about it on the radio.
That said, some drivers have said that they were told by race control that track limits at 4 would be policed in practice and qualy, but not the race. They don't half make it hard on themselves, F1, when they make the track limits rules up as the weekend goes on. What they should say is that the white line is the hard limit. 2 wheels over is fine, 4 over is not. It would be so much simpler.
SkyBlueSoul
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It feels a bit like F1’s version of VAR where it’s too convoluted and changes week to week. 4 wheels off = bad all the way round the track is definitely the way to go
mark82
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Stick the old gravel traps back in.
We'll_live_and_die
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I think they should keep all 4 wheels on the track. That’d slow then back down a bit.
SkyBlueSoul
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It's always fascinating what's considered safe, really.
Looking back, the old catch fencing they used to use was utter madness!
Saddlebrains
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Imola this weekend
You would assume a strong track for Red Bull. Rain forecast for the race
You would assume a strong track for Red Bull. Rain forecast for the race
Paul Anthony
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I love this track. It might not always provide the best racing, but it has gravel round it, walls beyond that, and it always looks properly fast. You get a real sense of jeapordy when you see the drivers going for it.
They've extended the DRS this year compared to last, so that should help somewhat.
They've extended the DRS this year compared to last, so that should help somewhat.
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Probably a minority view, but I hate it. Makes overtaking so artificial, takes the skill out of it to a certain extent, too. I know we'd got to a stage where overtaking was proper challenging, but a driver's skill is also in keeping a faster car behind them, not having them breeze by on a straight.
Paul Anthony
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I wouldn't say it's a minority view at all, certainly not amongst fans. In an ideal world they'll get the cars able to follow better without the need for it from next year.
Problem is people became obsessed with the idea that great races had to involve lots of overtaking. So F1 reacted. But, there are plenty of examples in history of great races that didn't necessarily have a lot of overtaking, yet still proved a lot of tension. You can go back to 2005 and 2006 at this very track, for example. Or Monaco in 1992, with Mansell trying everything to pass Senna but not being able to, which is considered a classic.
To add to that, there's a reason Montoya was one one of my favourite drivers. He found ways to overtake where others couldn't, he was very aggressive, never afraid to have a go. I think it's become a mentality amongst drivers that the cost of getting it wrong for the team is very expensive, so it deters them somewhat, and we've lost some of that attitude.
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Houchens Head
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Just as an aside, while waiting for the next race, what's everyone's favourite circuit? I love the Hungarian GP at the Hungaroring circuit. Twisty track with little room for manoeuvre, so skill is tested to the max.
Saddlebrains
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I like Silverstone of course, Austria, Bahrain, Spa and Austin for me
Paul Anthony
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Suzuka and Spa are my favourite circuits, Silverstone is up there too although I prefered the old layout with Bridge rather than the current one.
Paul Anthony
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Zanardi is someone who deserves a lot of respect, to have gone through what he went through must have been horrific. He really came close to the end.
Twice nearly killed. He's an inspirational figure and hopefully when he recovers from his most recent near death experience he will continue to be. I get the feeling he's not the type to retire and take things easy, he'll just astound even more people
His best ever move, absolutely mental and at one of the best corners in world motorsport. I think he would be done for track limits these days.
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Been there!
Been there too
Spa was far better in terms of a spectacle - the cars felt on their limit, and it seemed proper challenge of man vs machine vas nature. Hungary was a little... boring. Pure coincidence for both but, Spa happened to be Schumacher's first ever GP (not that he made it to where we were stood!) and Hungary was when Mansell won the title. Perry McCarthy had so little money at that stage, he had to hitch a lift on our bus to the circuit!
tisza
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Obviously been a lot to this one. First time was the most memorable when we met up with Eddie Irvine's family & friends and spent a ridiculously alcoholic 3 days/nights with them at the circuit and in the city.
Paul Anthony
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Tsunoda's smashed the back of his car to pieces.
What an exciting qualifying session. Hamilton will be pretty surprised to find himself on pole, I think but for Verstappen's error on his final run he would have just shaded it. Mercedes have certainly pulled things back in 3 weeks, really impressive. I'm not sure what went on with Bottas, losing four tenths in the first sector on his final run when it didn't look he had made a mistake.
Hard luck for Lando, that McLaren is incredibly quick, especially in the first sector.
Hard luck for Lando, that McLaren is incredibly quick, especially in the first sector.
Paul Anthony
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Really thought Lando had pulled that off. Shame. Interesting that for once the tables are turned and Red Bull have the upper hand on strategy. We really are in for a great season of racing!
SkyBlueSoul
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Hamilton! 
SkyBlueSoul
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Jesus, Bottas and Russell too! Shit’s gone dowwwn
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