Hobo
Well-Known Member
Ditto the whole SISU set up! What credibility do they have? They rode briefly on the crest of a wave before buying us...since then very below average.
The problem with sepalla and her credibility is her performance when the initial takeover happened. She let others run the business who were completely unfit for purpose. The ranson years were profligate with no benefit and the appointment of ken deliu was ridiculous given his prior form.
I have no doubt that seppella is an extremely capable businesswomen who is far more capable than her adversories in the battle. However, the hands off strategy deployed in the early years was bewildering and catastrophic. She needs to explain these failings.
The problem with sepalla and her credibility is her performance when the initial takeover happened. She let others run the business who were completely unfit for purpose. The ranson years were profligate with no benefit and the appointment of ken deliu was ridiculous given his prior form.
I have no doubt that seppella is an extremely capable businesswomen who is far more capable than her adversories in the battle. However, the hands off strategy deployed in the early years was bewildering and catastrophic. She needs to explain these failings.
She had faith in Deluded and CCFC was his baby, It was not until they asked her for more money that she started to take an interest.
She asked them to come back with a break even plan and they were not able to.
When she asked them why they said because they did not get any revenue from the stadium it was at this point she decided buy the Higgs share. these were her words and when she was challenged as to why she never realised that they got no revenue she said that they were the account managers and she had left it all to them she now realised it was a big mistake she also said she was advised not to invest in the club.
The problem with sepalla and her credibility is her performance when the initial takeover happened. She let others run the business who were completely unfit for purpose. The ranson years were profligate with no benefit and the appointment of ken deliu was ridiculous given his prior form.
I have no doubt that seppella is an extremely capable businesswomen who is far more capable than her adversories in the battle. However, the hands off strategy deployed in the early years was bewildering and catastrophic. She needs to explain these failings.
Agree one hundred pro cent. That is why we're here. If she had been hands on from the start Rent would have been sorted and ACL history.
Hindsight is a fine thing
ML has challenged CCC 27th June in CET today.
No mention if Joy will be attending pointless if she isn't.
Anyway tickets on sale !!
Fror ML - since when has "moved on" meant let's talk at the Fans Forum........... hmmmm, something fishy, and it's not sweaty Betty!
“We don’t think the Ricoh Arena dispute can be properly resolved while so many of the key facts are kept covered up from fans,” Mr Labovitch said.
Still sounding confident that the JR will reveal some condemning facts. He's trying to set them up for a grilling at the forum. Let's hope they accept. No reason not too.
I reckon let them attend, it might not solve anything but it might bring some stuff out into the open.
Get them all on a stage and have a debate, none of this going through PR companies for statements etc just let them have it out.
Precisely if SISU are determined to get 'facts' into the public domain,what is stopping them releasing them now, or indeed producing these 'facts' at the JR. All this does is further confirm there desperation to try and annexe the Ricoh. One thing you can almost guarantee they won't be letting fans know any relevant information about Stadium Mirage.I think the opposite, if they were confident the facts were going to come out why would they need this forum? If the evidence in the JR shows CCC, Higgs or ACL to be at the root of our move away then there will be enough pressure on them without the need for something like this. Not like there would be some huge bombshell dropped in the JR and then everyone would forget about it, the relevant parties will have to defend their actions.
Seems more to me that they don't think the JR will reveal anything in their favour, or at least enough to change public opinion, so they are trying another method.
I reckon let them attend, it might not solve anything but it might bring some stuff out into the open.
Get them all on a stage and have a debate, none of this going through PR companies for statements etc just let them have it out.
What stuff do you expect CCC to bring into the open? Would you like to go to an open meeting and divulge all your personal secrets ( everyone has embarassing moments they would rather not discuss - you too )? That's why they ( the parties involved ) have PR companies or people like Mark Labovitch - it distracts from their failings.
Why are we talking about the "blame game" anyway? - even Tim claims not to be into that.
The only thing that matters at this moment is " how do we get out of this mess in a way that all parties can accept?". The "blame game" is for discussion as "history" at a later point.
My "dream" is a joint statement from Joy and A.L. outlining the new "road map" and showing a common desire to get things moving forwards.
Not interested in "pervid plans" or "extracts from emails" - just unnecessary distractions - as is the JR.
SISU don't like the council. The council don't like SISU. It's not news any more. What would be news is if they were to get the club going again.
invite them all, at least they would be in same room at last.
Q1) would you all agree that £400k including match fees is an acceptable rent until SISU build new stadium. ?
Question two would depend on the answer to question one. If no, reduced or increas the number until both agree.
When both parties agree on a short term deal, stand up, walk out and start selling season tickets at the ricoh until new stadium is built.
Dont know why the fans need to be there to see it, but hey ho !
If somebody has an embarrassing moment to do with ccfc and the ricoh then it should be outted shouldn't it so we all know?
I'm not asking for personal things, I mean related to this.
I agree that ideally it would be things going forward, but maybe if they are put on the spot without PR companies to hide behind and things they can be put on the spot as to what is going to happen going forward to.
Can't see why the Directors of ACL or the trustees at the Charity would put themselves up to do it. The reality is that neither are connected to the Club any more and therefore why put themselves through it. The Council might feel they ought to because it is the Coventry team.
But I am suspecting all of the above will be given the legal advice not to attend. I really do not think all the legal action is over.
The object of this is precisely to create the comments already floating around. "why not what have they got to hide" There maybe something but just as likely there is nothing. Whats done is done and cant be undone
Does such an event actually work towards a solution for CCFC? I do not see how it does. It will stir up emotions and but the solution to this debacle doesn't lay in the past. Get round the table and do a deal that works for CCFC. Whilst round that table put the club first not SISU, ARVO, CCC etc.
Cant help thinking that this just deflects attention away from the things that matter now
If you fail in a JR what do you need for an appeal.........
it will need a point of law or court procedure being got wrong I would think, doubt there is any evidence missing or new evidence after the JR
it will need a point of law or court procedure being got wrong I would think, doubt there is any evidence missing or new evidence after the JR
Why would any of those other parties wish to be involved? It will turn in to a shouting match pointing figures and explaining nothing. What happened 1,2, 5 or 10 years ago just is not important to most fans. Its been done to death surely. The fans are tired and fed up with it.
What the fans really want to know with a lot more certainty than we are allowed by the club and its owners is quite simple -------- where do we go from here, how do we afford a club that performs on the pitch and values its supporters, and above all when are we coming home to Coventry. The Club has an opportunity to explain that in some detail but chooses to be locked in the past playing the blame game. Disappointing, pointless and out of touch with the fans.
The questions that matter now are not going to be answered
Just my opinion
I would think that any ruling can be appealed if one of the parties feel the ruling is unjust.
I don't think there is need for new evidence etc unless the ruling is from the supreme - or highest court there is.
If either party want to appeal the JR decision I think the next step up the court-ladder is The EU court of justice in Luxembourg.
So why do you think this?
Either the rules in place for the refinancing were followed or they were not. If they were then that is it. Nothing for SISU to appeal on. If they were not then that is it. Nothing for CCC to appeal.
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