Saying that what we are doing can be improved on is not a criticism.
Would you need Wasps permission though still as it's their land? Also depending on what was put on, would you need certain licences?
Think you raise a very valid issue CC4L ........ its about attracting and retaining the youngsters interest. Face painting is a start but giving the youngsters a taste of the sport in a fun safe way is the next step and will get the older kids more interested
This kids thing that Wasps did isn't for every game though is it? It was a special promotion for that game wasn't it?
They do utilise the Jaguar Hall on a number of matches though it would seem
It is all going to be down to finance and availability. It wont cost Wasps any more to use a free(unused) space they own. It will cost CCFC. Not sure CCFC could expect to get for nothing. Let alone paying for the stuff you are putting in there. Such events have got to be good for attracting families and the next generation of supporter. It is the sort of event CCFC should put on but maybe not every week. We have Legends Day why not have a family day with this kind of stuff provided.
Am I right in thinking the JSB match day events are self financing? Do the club pay for any of it? I know in the past the SCG have had a whip round to pay for things. Surely it is the kind of thing the SCG should be pushing the club to do and the club should pay for. Pat Raybould and her volunteers do a great job
just my tuppence.
i asked some of the staff and they said they do this alot for waspps game but never ccfc
mayeb it was extra big cos england playing scotland in rugby too though, not sure
IF we can do it we should,but it all comes down to £££ and permission
Asked which staff? The Wasps ones?
after some initial hostility this thread has proven quite useful!
its a funny old game
Think you're right OSB but always considered them the same. To be fair though SBiTC do provide other things for adults as well as children. Another thing I suppose that doesn't necessarily get the money or attention it deserves.
www.sbitc.org
For those interested.
yeah, i think they are just arena employees though who also work on ccfc match days. one guy told me he did anyway
PR at the club has been woeful for a long time. They keep saying they are doing something about it but somehow it stills seems uncoordinated and knee jerk.
For example the JSB's on the clubs own website have had no article since December 24 and a total of 8 articles in 2015 (four of those were in December) in 2014 there were 2 in total . If something is important to you surely you take time and effort to nurture it.
The JSB's are the potential future adult life long fans ................. are to put it bluntly future income. Don't just expect it to happen, especially in the face of financed and coordinated competition. In the scheme of things it doesn't cost or take much
went to wasps game saturday
now hear me out lol. my little nephew for free ticket from school and was desperate to go as all his mates were. his dad was working so couldnt take him. he phoned and asked me to take him and i said no and his disapointment was heartbreaking! after a few hours i rang him back and said ok cos family is priority
anyway it was free schools ticket,said £0.00 so i didnt cotnribute any money towards them and didnt buy a drink either(althoguh it was tempting)
anywhoo reason i post is because of a few observations
*rugby is a truly boring sport
*the atmosphere is very kiddy and familyish, i mean a choir under scoreboards compared to singers corner lads lol
*half the fans dont even watch the game
*drum band is annoying
ok so thats all good, ccfc clearly has nothing to learn ont he pitch
BUT
their kids zone was freaking impressive! set up in jaguar hall they have indoor rugby pitch(and somehow no injuries!) a penalty kick section(i put one right down middle) a tug of war game,a tackling game, kids club sign ups etc
plus a live band al wearing wasps kit and 3 bars for men to watch big screen rugby ont elly
i gotta admit this was impressive and left me envious. this is what ccfc should be doing, securing fans of the future whilst also making football better for families(alot of women in kidz zone after with their kids)
would be nice after a win if perhaps everyone didnt go home and instead let their kids have some fun whilst they enjoyed a pint
on flip side footy atmosphere is hostile and many fans cannot handle drink so security may be required even in a kids zone but i think its something the club should look into even if they dont own ricoh. i havnt seen out current kids zone,anyone know what they do there?
all i know is my nephew said wasp games are more fun than ccfc games aint they? after i slapped him silly i realised why he may have said that though. we need tos tep up our game!
nick if you could refrain from moving this thread to wasps board for a few hours,as it is aimed at ccfc fans to see how we can improve matchday experience.
JSB membership is over 1000 now I believe. The Christmas party had hundreds of kids there (I was there with my boy and it was excellent).
The JSB matchday volunteers do a sterling job, but are limited to the area in the concourse. I fear too it would take a change to the rental agreement to be able to use the Jaguar Hall.
JSB membership is £20 and u12's get in free if you sit in the Family Zone with them - http://www.ccfc.co.uk/fans/junior-fans/
That's the thing, give them free tickets, put all of the fancy stuff on. Will they go if they have to pay and there's no fancy stuff?Funny how football managed to attract fans of all ages for years without this extra entertainment. Would rather the investment was made on the pitch. It's turd polishing for rugby which is a dreadful game to watch and a team that people have limited affinity with.
Funny how football managed to attract fans of all ages for years without this extra entertainment. Would rather the investment was made on the pitch. It's turd polishing for rugby which is a dreadful game to watch and a team that people have limited affinity with.
Funny how football managed to attract fans of all ages for years without this extra entertainment. Would rather the investment was made on the pitch. It's turd polishing for rugby which is a dreadful game to watch and a team that people have limited affinity with.
On that note, if the JSBs / volunteers want a website I'd be happy to make them one
Funny how football managed to attract fans of all ages for years without this extra entertainment. Would rather the investment was made on the pitch. It's turd polishing for rugby which is a dreadful game to watch and a team that people have limited affinity with.
Funny how football managed to attract fans of all ages for years without this extra entertainment. Would rather the investment was made on the pitch. It's turd polishing for rugby which is a dreadful game to watch and a team that people have limited affinity with.
I think CC4L raised many valid points that football and many on here don't want to face. WASPS are doing this for the good of WASPS future. Kids in for free, parents often buy own tickets , kids by food cause they pester the parents , the same areas are full of people buy beer like it might be their last one ,all welcome, kids can run free and all have a good day out. .. kids then want to go again ad pester the adults to take them cause their mate is going. zero ticket income probably translates to at least a tenner because you are in and spending.
That isn't building passionate Wasps fans though... That is giving them a free day out, free play area. They have to do that forever else they wont go.
They are taken to the match as well and a little bit of flag waving you start to develop a little bit of belonging.
Kitted out in your Wasps gear also helps and a few tries makes you think you could enjoy this.
If it works for me it could work for them
It will work for some, but I see it all the time with people I know who will only go to city games or things if it is free or a fiver. They won't go when it is full price.
If Wasps / CCFC put on a fairground every game, give free tickets etc then people will only go because of the fair ground and the free tickets. Once they have to pay and there is no fair ground they won't bother.
I can see some fans will stick, but people won't if they have to pay for it as they will want the big fairground, the free tickets.
Do the young kids see Wasps players as heros? Or do they see it as going to play on inflatables?
Really? I must have been seeing the excitement at the kids party or every week when players come down. Not just the kids either!!I think kids today see their heroes on TV.
Younger ones might see the local team players as heroes but probably wouldn't recognise them in the street.
in the 70s we had our bikes, football & maybe bin cricket in the summer.Kids have too many choices these days.
In my day (60's) football was the only thing we had and match day was looked forward to as soon as we left the last match.
I could only watch ATV Sunday Football as MOTD was too late.
Every night was a game of footie in Liggins field.
Now with Play Stations, computers and phones, actually doing anything physical is a bind.
The problem is they are not.... the average age of the football supporter is now 41 years old, and that has dropped a little from 44. Football is fast becoming and middle aged spectator sport and very few clubs are doing anything about it. Big clubs use 95%+ of their seats so can price how they want. They don't want away fans because they don't spend in the club shop, they want home fans and Tourists who pay top dollar and buy merchandise. It is a big concern and starting to be debated as the atmosphere is being diluted by the Prawn Sandwich Brigade.
I think CC4L raised many valid points that football and many on here don't want to face. WASPS are doing this for the good of WASPS future. Kids in for free, parents often buy own tickets , kids by food cause they pester the parents , the same areas are full of people buy beer like it might be their last one ,all welcome, kids can run free and all have a good day out. .. kids then want to go again ad pester the adults to take them cause their mate is going. zero ticket income probably translates to at least a tenner because you are in and spending.
Also believe the WASPs equivalent of JSB is free
in no way should this be construed as criticism of the JSB or the fantastic Volunteers that want to see things improve and can see where tomorrow fans come from , but really, do they get the support they deserve?
Really? I must have been seeing the excitement at the kids party or every week when players come down.
It just be different at wasps.
My mate's little lad loves Reda Johnson. He was gutted he weren't at the Christmas party. Sticks him up front on FIFA. Loves Pirlo too but that's because he met him, too young to know who he is otherwise. City players are heroes. James Maddison? Callum Wilson? Gary McSheffrey? There just local ones. Roland Nilsson? It's endless. That is because they have ties with the local area. Like it or not. That is the difference. Footballs a different sport. The fans have different personality traits. Rugby barring the odd player doesn't have heroes just very good players.
Kids have too many choices these days.
In my day (60's) football was the only thing we had and match day was looked forward to as soon as we left the last match.
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