Nick
Administrator
I didn't say they did.
It was just asking about everything being the director's fault.
Neither of which have anything to do with the football team.
Oh yes I forgot the telegraph.There's one common factor still lurking around whose caused more damage than anyone.
I am just a member. I apologise if you didn't know about the demonstration.When I said Trust I meant those that run it. I was under the impression you were just a member? I didn't know about the demonstration.
You make it sound as if CA has said "You are going to give me these, on my terms, at the times I say, for the price I say". Jeez, he requested some info in writing, he didn't really dictate anything did he?
And where were our owners at the time?Wasps had fuck all to do with Coventry - didn't stop them waltzing in and lording it up over everything... While CCC and CET in the background like some pantomime villians.
2 words - cash cow.
Isn't that as big a myth as SISU using CCFC as a cash cow? Could be wrong but I'm sure I've read on here several times that ACL has never paid out dividends.
There's one common factor still lurking around whose caused more damage than anyone.
But half is better then we have ended up with.It didn't under the council which is one reason why half purchase was always useless.
But half is better then we have ended up with.
It didn't under the council which is one reason why half purchase was always useless.
No it isn't. Not at all. Especially as it would have cost £6 million (and anyway the council would have vetoed it)
I thought that the council were in on it with a joint plan to take over the YB loan.
You make it sound as if CA has said "You are going to give me these, on my terms, at the times I say, for the price I say". Jeez, he requested some info in writing, he didn't really dictate anything did he?
You make it sound as if CA has said "You are going to give me these, on my terms, at the times I say, for the price I say". Jeez, he requested some info in writing, he didn't really dictate anything did he?
I do believe Grendel says he blames the council 100%.
That might have been on one specific thing though.
Probably the weather
You make it sound as if CA has said "You are going to give me these, on my terms, at the times I say, for the price I say". Jeez, he requested some info in writing, he didn't really dictate anything did he?
There's one common factor still lurking around whose caused more damage than anyone.
Hibernation for you soon - match day threads about to start.
The posts on here amaze me. I can't imagine the fans of any other club in our situation would be making posts defending CSF and Wasps and their treatment of CCFC.Straight up refused to put anything in writing.
The posts on here amaze me. I can't imagine the fans of any other club in our situation would be making posts defending CSF and Wasps and their treatment of CCFC.
They are point blank refusing to respond to the club in writing. There is a reason for that and its not hard to work out what it is.
(Because they were about to meet with the bloke and he pulled out last minute and then started demanding stuff in writing that hasn't even been discussed yet. Otherwise he won't meet them. Remind me again who is the main beneficery if something gets sorted?)
Nicks post is right. There was no mention of helping the academy stay at Higgs, if anything the opposite saying the two couldn't co-exist, then when it was shining a negative light on Wasps and CSF the spin starts. People are so pre-disposed to blaming SISU for everything all it needs is a seed planting and Wasps and CSF are suddenly blameless.
Nail on headThe posts on here amaze me. I can't imagine the fans of any other club in our situation would be making posts defending CSF and Wasps and their treatment of CCFC.
They are point blank refusing to respond to the club in writing. There is a reason for that and its not hard to work out what it is.
Nicks post is right. There was no mention of helping the academy stay at Higgs, if anything the opposite saying the two couldn't co-exist, then when it was shining a negative light on Wasps and CSF the spin starts. People are so pre-disposed to blaming SISU for everything all it needs is a seed planting and Wasps and CSF are suddenly blameless.
To be honest I was struggling to work out who is to blame. The guys saying yes and actually attending a meeting aimed at discussing the future of the academy
Or
The guy who said no one is talking to us. Then agreed to a meeting with the people not talking to him.
Then pulled out of the meeting.
Then set a condition that must be met otherwise he won't meet them.
It was a tough decision over who comes out if this looking at fault. However I think my natural bias and my mistrust of SISU is blinding me, clouding my judgement a bit and surpringly pushing me towards blaming the bloke who didn't turn up and started setting conditions.
Have you ever considered that your judgement might be slightly clouded on this one?
A condition wasn't set after the meeting was it? It was said from the start that CCFC wanted to start off with things in writing, they "said" they sent over a current timetable of what is being used and were asking for information on what from that could still be offered to the academy.
It was said before the Wasps news came out that CCFC were trying to sort out an extension and were emailing and writing but they were being ignored. CSF confirmed they had received written contact from CCFC.
Then the Wasps news came out.
Suddenly, CSF's door opens. They release statements not really saying much or confirming anything, basically just "The door is open".
I'd think it was between couldn't house us or just didn't actually want to (why should they?), they have now spun it so that people like you are reading their "our door is open" and saying that they were trying to help.
The questions you have to ask are, why wouldn't CSF / Wasps put anything in writing? I'd put money on this reason being linked to why CA was so insistent on it? He was being ignored before the Wasps stuff came out wasn't he?
Yes, you mention about judgement being clouded but I think people need to step back and look at the wider picture. You can be sarcastic about how it isn't a hard decision for you to see who is to blame, you also fought for Andy Thorn being a top manager and proud of the council. I wouldn't start bragging about your judgement
The only thing its clouded by is the fact that I want what is best for my football club over a local council and London rugby club.Have you ever considered that your judgement might be slightly clouded on this one?
I am not sure if I will get a straight answer to this but I will try anyway.
In your honest opinion should CA have attended that meeting?
Exactly. Anderson was talking to CSF, they stopped responding and ignored communications and then the Wasps new broke. At that point, after it had been stated Wasps and CCFC couldn't coexist at Higgs, Anderson asked for details of what would still be available in writing. Its hardly unreasonable behaviour from Anderson. Surely the question should be why the refusal to respond to a simple request.A condition wasn't set after the meeting was it? It was said from the start that CCFC wanted to start off with things in writing, they "said" they sent over a current timetable of what is being used and were asking for information on what from that could still be offered to the academy.
It was said before the Wasps news came out that CCFC were trying to sort out an extension and were emailing and writing but they were being ignored. CSF confirmed they had received written contact from CCFC.
The only thing its clouded by is the fact that I want what is best for my football club over a local council and London rugby club.
You one sided take on things is a prime example of what I was talking about.
With comments like that CD, you might just earn yourself a badge off Dongo. He's promised me one.
I take it then if I want the best for my football club over a local council and an ex London, Wycombe now Coventry Rugby club.
When the owners of my football club make a stupid decision that I believe hurts my football club.
I should defend their decision because they own the football club and the other party involved in the decision are Wasps?
No, and nobody has suggested you should. Why you should be upset about is a facility purpose built for the club, that only got planning permission as our academy was to be located there, that was on formally public land that there was a commitment to keep in community use is now being handed over, with greatly reduced facilities for public use, to a rugby club from London so they don't have to spend their own money on a new site.I take it then if I want the best for my football club over a local council and an ex London, Wycombe now Coventry Rugby club.
When the owners of my football club make a stupid decision that I believe hurts my football club.
I should defend their decision because they own the football club and the other party involved in the decision are Wasps?
50 year lease at 1.3m a year is £65 million. Original loan was what? 21millon?Isn't that as big a myth as SISU using CCFC as a cash cow? Could be wrong but I'm sure I've read on here several times that ACL has never paid out dividends.
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