bigfatronssba
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It’s the fucking premier league
It’s fucking Chelsea!
Come on you're not silly , it's hardly like managing Bournemouth or Southampton in the Premier league is it ?It’s the fucking premier league
I think he'll surprise a few. Half written this season off but I hope to see us play some good football and advance up the table. The summer I think could be interesting if he's backed, he'll have decent pull and I also believe we'll see a couple of loans at a standard previously beyond us.
I also suspect he'll bring in his own coaching set up (for the most part) and they'll be a step up from where we're at currently.
Wait and see I guess, just my prediction. Most of them end up alright.I thought the Kingies said we couldn't afford and won't pay the asking price for top quality loans?
Surely Chelsea finishing 4th is the minimum expectation for a club that’s spent as much money as them over the yearsCome on you're not silly , it's hardly like managing Bournemouth or Southampton in the Premier league is it ?
Wait and see I guess, just my prediction. Most of them end up alright.
We’ve had plenty of Chelsea starlets thanks to Uncle Adi!Well I've been banging the drum for using the loan market since, well, since we stopped using it!
I've been told I was,wrong, it wasn't viable.
The mental gymnastics from those people as they salute Doug and Frank ushering in a few Chelsea starlets is going to be a joy to behold!
We’ve had plenty of Chelsea starlets thanks to Uncle Adi!
Hopefully Frank brings in better quality ones…
Loans are ok as long as they add something and don't just make up the numbers. As i say I think he'll attract a couple of good quality ones and I welcome it.Well I've been banging the drum for using the loan market since, well, since we stopped using it!
I've been told I was,wrong, it wasn't viable.
The mental gymnastics from those people as they salute Doug and Frank ushering in a few Chelsea starlets is going to be a joy to behold!
A mixed bag, I would say overall it's not been that great. Might rate all our ex Chelsea players when i can be bothered.We had some decent ones, well, the decent ones were more ex Chelsea.
I agree the list is uninspiring, I wouldn't be excited about any of them, I'd maybe be ok with Rosenior, but at this point I'd just be delighted if it's anyone (within reason) other than Lampard.
There will be some great talent out there, Eirik Horneland for one, and if we scoured the leagues of Europe and appointed someone like him who most people haven't heard of, but are very highly rated and up and coming, then I think we'd all be like 'fair play, Doug has been thorough and done his homework'.
But now it's going to look more like 'man who knows nothing about football appoints someone he's heard of'. I just have serious concerns about the decision making process and direction we're going in.
Will support the club during and after this appointment, just will be severely hoping to be proven wrong rather than enthusiastic.
Why did you list his achievements in the prem and champions league if they aren’t relevant to our club?Lampard has finished in the Top 6 in the Championship, Top 4 of the Premiership, managed in the UCL and got to an FA Cup final. I’m sorry, but if you’re being objective, there isn’t a manager out there who wants the job with those achievements on its resumé.
On Horneland, there’s no indication he wants the job. Assuming he does, he’s done well in the Norwegian league, how does that translate to the Championship or English football in general?
Talking about Lampard’s failures in the Prem isn’t relevant to us as a club. If we were in the Prem, I’d understand the criticisms far more. We’re a Championship club and his record in that league is good. Better than Eustace, better than Bloomfield and probably better than any other name I’ve heard tenuously linked with us.
Come on you're not silly , it's hardly like managing Bournemouth or Southampton in the Premier league is it ?
It was for 2 of the 3 full seasons he had hereAnd managing us isn't like managing Plymouth or Oxford in the Championship is it?
The fact he’s managed at that level and is in the running of managing us is impressive in of itself.Why did you list his achievements in the prem and champions league if they aren’t relevant to our club?
None of the candidates mentioned get my blood pumping with excitement. It’s like winning a ‘who can get off with the ugliest bird’ competitionThe fact he’s managed at that level and is in the running of managing us is impressive in of itself.
Even so, who on the shortlist has finished in the Top 6 in the EFL, let alone the Championship bar Lampard?
For all the people bleating about Lampard, they haven’t actually mentioned someone who is objectively a better candidate.
Don’t forget they were under a transfer embargo in his first year and he couldn’t sign any playersSurely Chelsea finishing 4th is the minimum expectation for a club that’s spent as much money as them over the years
They still had about 30 decent players they could pick. It’s hardly the ‘against all odds’ story of a lifetimeDon’t forget they were under a transfer embargo in his first year and he couldn’t sign any players
Just have this sneaky fear that this could be the start of another manager merry-go-round.
Don’t forget they were under a transfer embargo in his first year and he couldn’t sign any players
It was thoughAnd managing us isn't like managing Plymouth or Oxford in the Championship is it?
I do think we probably will get a new manager bounce and do well for a few games.
After that, who knows. I will back Lampard, but can't say I am not concerned.
Would absolutely be delighted to be proved wrong.
Just have this sneaky fear that this could be the start of another manager merry-go-round.
I think some people are just concerned we've sacked long term stability and success for Frank lampard .
A man that's genuinley struggled in his last 2 appointments
Never said it was, just that fourth place was hardly a given under those circumstances.They still had about 30 decent players they could pick. It’s hardly the ‘against all odds’ story of a lifetime
Exactly. I’m probably coming across as ‘pro-Lampard’ because I’m saying he’s objectively the best candidate. Some of the criticisms just don’t add up, Lampard isn’t ’just a name’.None of the candidates mentioned get my blood pumping with excitement. It’s like winning a ‘who can get off with the ugliest bird’ competition
You could be right. I totally get why neutral fans are ripping the p!ss out of us and 50% of our fans are flat no but I do tend to agree with a lot of the points Mucca makes and I do a bit admire him for persisting with management when he must be set for life.I think he'll surprise a few. Half written this season off but I hope to see us play some good football and advance up the table. The summer I think could be interesting if he's backed, he'll have decent pull and I also believe we'll see a couple of loans at a standard previously beyond us.
I also suspect he'll bring in his own coaching set up (for the most part) and they'll be a step up from where we're at currently.
What’s more important, turning us into a good footballing side ( which we haven’t been for a while ) or just getting some points on the board early doors, hopefully a bit of help in january and who knows, could turn into another great seasonYou could be right. I totally get why neutral fans are ripping the p!ss out of us and 50% of our fans are flat no but I do tend to agree with a lot of the points Mucca makes and I do a bit admire him for persisting with management when he must be set for life.
The loans issue is one I hear raised quite a lot though and I'm not sure about it. At Derby he took a lot of players that had been playing for him the previous year but he left the youth set up there some time ago now.
I'm sure he still has the odd connection but lots of clubs our level will and I'm not convinced they will be offering Lampard mates rates. I do wonder if DK thinks Lampard's name might resonate better with the stamenic's of this world and attract a better class of player from abroad. I'm not convinced our transfer policy is going to change much.
Who says our players are only lower championship potential?
Your argument is ridiculous.
Exactly, the only people who’ve come out And said we’re a top 6 side or better are Austin, who recruited them, and King who Paid for them, and if king still thinks those players are good enough then we need that director of football in very quick, that’s not a top 6 squadThe league table.
Do you know what the word potential means?The league table.
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