They have literally nothing in common other than both being from countries in East Asia. It made us look backwards and ignorant.
No, basing a chant on the racial stereotype that East Asian people look alike is not the same as one based on people's haircuts.It was an ignorant chant but you could the say the same about fans singing 'Shit Andy Carroll' to every footballer who happens to have long hair and play as a striker.
it's not the same is itIt was an ignorant chant but you could the say the same about fans singing 'Shit Andy Carroll' to every footballer who happens to have long hair and play as a striker.
I'd like to think that thousands of our fans singing that on Saturday were not because they happened to both be East Asian. But it would be utterly depressing if they were.
No, basing a chant on the racial stereotype that East Asian people look alike is not the same as one based on people's haircuts.
It was unthinking rather than malicious, but that doesn't make it ok.
it's not the same is it
It was an ignorant chant but you could the say the same about fans singing 'Shit Andy Carroll' to every footballer who happens to have long hair and play as a striker.
I'd like to think that thousands of our fans singing that on Saturday were not because they happened to both be East Asian. But it would be utterly depressing if they were.
Edit: To be clear as an observation of those singing it, I'm sure they don't realise what they are singing is offensive and people should think first. Same with the Lati song.
Well, to be honest, long hair is a massive difference to race.
Too right footed, totally predictable.Agree. It did make me cringe a bit. Also thought their lad ran the game for them going forward in the 1st half
Now that really is a shit chantI think we should stick to "your mums your dad", to show that we're all edumacated..
I definitely don't think it was done with racist intentions it's just ignorant more than anything.i Doubt whoever started that song thought “ let’s get this racist chant going “ it should be taken as it was meant, bit of a piss take, nothing racist about it and if your trying to turn it into that, maybe your the problem, nothing offensive in it in the slightest,
But it wasn’t racist was it,it was only racist if your looking for it to be,I definitely don't think it was done with racist intentions it's just ignorant more than anything.
It doesn't matter how its meant to be taken it could still be considered racist and would cause the club a problem if picked up on.
It's not really worth it for the sake of a joke is it?
Maybe not racist, but definitely stereotyping, possibly xenophobic.But it wasn’t racist was it,it was only racist if your looking for it to be,
But it wasn’t racist was it,it was only racist if your looking for it to be,
And if the racist stereotype that all East Asian people look alike is racist.it was only racist if your looking for it to be,
Is Sake a Japanese drink or Korean?I definitely don't think it was done with racist intentions it's just ignorant more than anything.
It doesn't matter how its meant to be taken it could still be considered racist and would cause the club a problem if picked up on.
It's not really worth it for the sake of a joke is it?
reading Far too much into it, it was a tongue in cheek joke, and if the stoke fans had said it about sakamoto and their player it would of been taken exactly the same, racist Chants are just that, this one wasn’t,And if the racist stereotype that all East Asian people look alike is racist.
Just because something isn't intentionally racist (or whatever) doesn't mean that it isn't. It's making a joke based on a racist stereotype.
i Doubt whoever started that song thought “ let’s get this racist chant going “ ,
You're either so sheepish and too arogant to admit on reflection that it's wrong because you can't separate impact from intent, OR you are so stupid that you can't understand why it's wrong.reading Far too much into it, it was a tongue in cheek joke, and if the stoke fans had said it about sakamoto and their player it would of been taken exactly the same, racist Chants are just that, this one wasn’t,
You ok hunYou're either so sheepish and too arogant to admit on reflection that it's wrong because you can't separate impact from intent, OR you are so stupid that you can't understand why it's wrong.
The good news is i think it's the latter
It's definitely the latterYou're either so sheepish and too arogant to admit on reflection that it's wrong because you can't separate impact from intent, OR you are so stupid that you can't understand why it's wrong.
The good news is i think it's the latter
Not another snowflakeIt's definitely the latter
Presumably then you don't comment on games you don't attend or do you attend every single game and are therefore allowed to?
Not another snowflake
take It as it was meant, bit of a piss take, nothing remotely racist about it as, look at the reaction it got, everyone was laughing, apart from some over sensitive fans, wait until Latis back in the team, theyll be sending their Season ticket back when there’s 28,000 singing his song,It's not being a snowflake mate chant what the fuck you want it don't matter just don't be chanting things that could be perceived as racist it'll only damage the club.
I find the Latibeaudiere one sketchy as well, thankfully he rarely gives a reason for anyone to sing it.
Of course I amLads, he's an internet WUM looking for bites.
Just nod and remember he's the opposite of the "lati song" he mentions.
Very shit. Greggs had a sense of humour.He’s just a shit Greggs
Great so noone could have a view on say, the gestures at Kasey palmer unless they saw the chants first hand.
About time i added the what...5th account of this creep to the ignore list now anyway. Have a great life!
Was Greggs Korean?Very shit. Greggs had a sense of humour.
Was Greggs Korean?
Both had the standard issue Asian man haircut
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