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pusbccfc

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They have literally nothing in common other than both being from countries in East Asia. It made us look backwards and ignorant.

It was an ignorant chant but you could the say the same about fans singing 'Shit Andy Carroll' to every footballer who happens to have long hair and play as a striker.

I'd like to think that thousands of our fans singing that on Saturday were not because they happened to both be East Asian. But it would be utterly depressing if they were.

Edit: To be clear as an observation of those singing it, I'm sure they don't realise what they are singing is offensive and people should think first. Same with the Lati song.
 

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Shannerz

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It was an ignorant chant but you could the say the same about fans singing 'Shit Andy Carroll' to every footballer who happens to have long hair and play as a striker.
No, basing a chant on the racial stereotype that East Asian people look alike is not the same as one based on people's haircuts.

It was unthinking rather than malicious, but that doesn't make it ok.
 

David O'Day

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It was an ignorant chant but you could the say the same about fans singing 'Shit Andy Carroll' to every footballer who happens to have long hair and play as a striker.

I'd like to think that thousands of our fans singing that on Saturday were not because they happened to both be East Asian. But it would be utterly depressing if they were.
it's not the same is it
 

pusbccfc

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No, basing a chant on the racial stereotype that East Asian people look alike is not the same as one based on people's haircuts.

It was unthinking rather than malicious, but that doesn't make it ok.

I know, I'm hoping people weren't singing it because of that. In the minds of those singing, it's the same because they were both wingers with a similar haircut.

It's still very ignorant. It's like the Lati song. People don't realise it can be offensive.
 

torchomatic

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It was an ignorant chant but you could the say the same about fans singing 'Shit Andy Carroll' to every footballer who happens to have long hair and play as a striker.

I'd like to think that thousands of our fans singing that on Saturday were not because they happened to both be East Asian. But it would be utterly depressing if they were.

Edit: To be clear as an observation of those singing it, I'm sure they don't realise what they are singing is offensive and people should think first. Same with the Lati song.

Well, to be honest, long hair is a massive difference to race.
 

Lamps

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It depends on which way you look at it. It was two players playing a similar position and similar role. Or it was a racist chant where a black player of ours found a racist chant funny.
 

quinn1971

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i Doubt whoever started that song thought “ let’s get this racist chant going “ it should be taken as it was meant, bit of a piss take, nothing racist about it and if your trying to turn it into that, maybe your the problem, nothing offensive in it in the slightest,
 

Samueljames1991

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i Doubt whoever started that song thought “ let’s get this racist chant going “ it should be taken as it was meant, bit of a piss take, nothing racist about it and if your trying to turn it into that, maybe your the problem, nothing offensive in it in the slightest,
I definitely don't think it was done with racist intentions it's just ignorant more than anything.

It doesn't matter how its meant to be taken it could still be considered racist and would cause the club a problem if picked up on.

It's not really worth it for the sake of a joke is it?
 
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quinn1971

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I definitely don't think it was done with racist intentions it's just ignorant more than anything.

It doesn't matter how its meant to be taken it could still be considered racist and would cause the club a problem if picked up on.

It's not really worth it for the sake of a joke is it?
But it wasn’t racist was it,it was only racist if your looking for it to be,
 

JAM See

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But it wasn’t racist was it,it was only racist if your looking for it to be,
Maybe not racist, but definitely stereotyping, possibly xenophobic.
I chuckled but didn't join in.

In terms of discrimination, we've got bigger fish to fry.

Not an issue for me personally.
 

Speedies_Chips

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I definitely don't think it was done with racist intentions it's just ignorant more than anything.

It doesn't matter how its meant to be taken it could still be considered racist and would cause the club a problem if picked up on.

It's not really worth it for the sake of a joke is it?
Is Sake a Japanese drink or Korean?
 

quinn1971

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And if the racist stereotype that all East Asian people look alike is racist.

Just because something isn't intentionally racist (or whatever) doesn't mean that it isn't. It's making a joke based on a racist stereotype.
reading Far too much into it, it was a tongue in cheek joke, and if the stoke fans had said it about sakamoto and their player it would of been taken exactly the same, racist Chants are just that, this one wasn’t,
 

Tommo1993

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i Doubt whoever started that song thought “ let’s get this racist chant going “ ,

Whoever the dimwit was that started it could’ve carried on the thought process and realised that he shouldn’t have started it because it’s dumb as fuck.

Not particularly interested in making something big out of it, but he won’t be up against any Asians tomorrow, so let’s see if we hear it again…
 

robbiekeane

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reading Far too much into it, it was a tongue in cheek joke, and if the stoke fans had said it about sakamoto and their player it would of been taken exactly the same, racist Chants are just that, this one wasn’t,
You're either so sheepish and too arogant to admit on reflection that it's wrong because you can't separate impact from intent, OR you are so stupid that you can't understand why it's wrong.

The good news is i think it's the latter
 

quinn1971

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You're either so sheepish and too arogant to admit on reflection that it's wrong because you can't separate impact from intent, OR you are so stupid that you can't understand why it's wrong.

The good news is i think it's the latter
You ok hun 😂 doubt you were even offended, just being a dick about it, if your offended by that, I don’t think being in a football grounds for you,
 

quinn1971

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It's not being a snowflake mate chant what the fuck you want it don't matter just don't be chanting things that could be perceived as racist it'll only damage the club.
take It as it was meant, bit of a piss take, nothing remotely racist about it as, look at the reaction it got, everyone was laughing, apart from some over sensitive fans, wait until Latis back in the team, theyll be sending their Season ticket back when there’s 28,000 singing his song,
 

David O'Day

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Lads, he's an internet WUM looking for bites.

Just nod and remember he's the opposite of the "lati song" he mentions.
 

JimmyHillsbeard

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I find the Latibeaudiere one sketchy as well, thankfully he rarely gives a reason for anyone to sing it.

The lonely bloke in Block 28 who decided to air it on International Women’s Day seemed lovely.

Lati and Rudi belong to the same camp, there’s some obvious and fairly original chants that could be used but we’ve preferred to adapt far inferior ones just because…
 

torchomatic

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Great so noone could have a view on say, the gestures at Kasey palmer unless they saw the chants first hand.

About time i added the what...5th account of this creep to the ignore list now anyway. Have a great life!

I was there and I couldn't see it as it was at the opposite end to the pitch as us.

Saying your can't comment if you didn't attend is ridiculous.

Typical comment of the thin-skinned.
 

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shmmeee

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He had the same hair. I’m not sure it’s as bad as people are making out. If someone came on with an Afro we’d call them a shit Simms even if they’re not English or even black. Both had the standard issue Asian man haircut, so they looked a bit alike. I think comparing it to monkey chants is ludicrous tbh.
 

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