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It was hardly something they could keep secret about.
It was hardly something they could keep secret about.What also dont help in the circumstances, is when the police or government went public in the news the other week about how the prisons are full and we're gonna let criminals out early.
The rioters/looters will think fuck it what they gonna do attitude as there thick as fuck.
waiting lists have no baring, it's arrest, no bail, court and then jail.
it's what they have said will happen as wellWell we’ll see, I am highly sceptical but who knows.
it's what they have said will happen as well
Should we let the mob burn them all down to save a few bobAfter a little bit of research , a further £29 million has been put into mosque security protection. Not going to make people happy is it.
4 to a cellDo we have room in our prisons?
they've arrested 100s alreadywho is “they”?
Don’t get me wrong, I hope they do- but seems a tall order to wade through all this, that’s all I’m saying.
I am a Humanist, I am against all kinds of organised religions, but everyone has the right to practice whatever religion they want without fear of harm. My opinion means no more than someone else's right to practice their religion.Should we let the mob burn them all down to save a few bob
4 to a cell
Joint with the Muslim defence leagueProviding extra security for Mosques is going to be very difficult,1,500 in the UK....who will provide the security?....the police resources are already stretched to the limit.
Seems like a promise that's impossible to keep imo
This isn't the wild west where you make some people deputy sheriff. They have a right to protect their mosque, but only within the law and weapons are a no no. Let's hope the idiots attacking them have now got it out of their system, those that should be arrested are and it all quietens down again, but I can't support another lawless bunch, simply because some of their community have been wronged elsewhere. Along with the EDL they're two sides of the same coin.Joint with the Muslim defence league
Yeah the time to get the army out on the streets was a couple of days ago now.For me, we’re in “full force of the law” territory now. Riots culminating in vigilante groups has a risk of spiralling to an even more devastating effect than we’ve seen so far.
I know it was a complete jokeThis isn't the wild west where you make some people deputy sheriff. They have a right to protect their mosque, but only within the law and weapons are a no no. Let's hope the idiots attacking them have now got it out of their system, those that should be arrested are and it all quietens down again, but I can't support another lawless bunch, simply because some of their community have been wronged elsewhere. Along with the EDL they're two sides of the same coin.
Have been expecting something down here, but not happend yet. Reform got a large chunk of the vote here and we are so close to France and where the crossings occurEmbarrassed to say where I live (Tamworth) made national headlines last night due to idiots trashing the town centre
What, hit them with croissants and cold meats you mean?I suspect someone proper continental style policing would send most these fannies home in minutes
What, hit them with croissants and old meats you mean?
If you throw Tamworth and Solihull into the Birmingham region, is Coventry now the only big city in the UK without any riots?
Let's keep it this way and stop anyone even attempting to organise something.
Hasn't been anything down south has there? Portsmouth, Southampton etc? I know they aren't as big as Cov
Tamworth is technically Staffordshire albeit falling under a B postcodeIf you throw Tamworth and Solihull into the Birmingham region, is Coventry now the only big city in the UK without any riots?
Let's keep it this way and stop anyone even attempting to organise something.
Hello Cardiff!If you throw Tamworth and Solihull into the Birmingham region, is Coventry now the only big city in the UK without any riots?
Let's keep it this way and stop anyone even attempting to organise something.
I'm not convinced of that - i have a nasty feeling that would (possibly literally) inflame things.I hate to say it but once the local communities being persecuted mobilise and give these piss weak chavs a good hiding they will disappear back into their holes for a long time
With regard to the earlier comments from the *former* counter-terrorism guy (no-one currently in post would be able to get away with openly criticising police tactics), the police response HAS been too passive. I saw a lengthy video (which was live-streamed at the time) of the original post-vigil riot in Southport, and when the police line moved towards the rioters with a bit of pace (and three dogs), they scattered and ran off like a bunch of schoolgirls. As Macca said, bit of tear gas and water cannon and it would be over in minutes.
The "full force of the law" is not in the gift of the police - it's the weak and woolly magistrates that need a kick up the backside. But the Rotherham refugee hotel incident is "arson with intent to endanger life" - this can carry a life sentence, if they wish to dole it out.
Yvette Cooper said on the radio this morning that other places of worship were to be protected too, including synagogues. It is in the budget, but it is private security firms, not police resource. See what the COBRA meeting this morning brings. I'd be in favour of curfews before the army being brought in. They wouldn't know how to control a crowd as well as the police do.
I'm not convinced of that - i have a nasty feeling that would (possibly literally) inflame things.
Was it the sentences being handed down by the emergency courts during the 2011 riots that made people think twice? Or was it the rain??
Hello Cardiff!
Wouldn’t those members of local communities giving the chavs a good hiding be guilty of assault / ABH and therefore should feel the full weight if the law?I hate to say it but once the local communities being persecuted mobilise and give these piss weak chavs a good hiding they will disappear back into their holes for a long time
What would you have the army do? They are good at shooting people.Yeah the time to get the army out on the streets was a couple of days ago now.
The biggest questions lie for the security forces, counter terrorism and maybe MI6.With regard to the earlier comments from the *former* counter-terrorism guy (no-one currently in post would be able to get away with openly criticising police tactics), the police response HAS been too passive. I saw a lengthy video (which was live-streamed at the time) of the original post-vigil riot in Southport, and when the police line moved towards the rioters with a bit of pace (and three dogs), they scattered and ran off like a bunch of schoolgirls. As Macca said, bit of tear gas and water cannon and it would be over in minutes.
The "full force of the law" is not in the gift of the police - it's the weak and woolly magistrates that need a kick up the backside. But the Rotherham refugee hotel incident is "arson with intent to endanger life" - this can carry a life sentence, if they wish to dole it out.
Yvette Cooper said on the radio this morning that other places of worship were to be protected too, including synagogues. It is in the budget, but it is private security firms, not police resource. See what the COBRA meeting this morning brings. I'd be in favour of curfews before the army being brought in. They wouldn't know how to control a crowd as well as the police do.
I hate to say it but once the local communities being persecuted mobilise and give these piss weak chavs a good hiding they will disappear back into their holes for a long time
Provide greater numbers to support the police and you’d then have these ‘patriots’ attacking the armed forces.What would you have the army do? They are good at shooting people.
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