Gathering for Tommy / Discontent (8 Viewers)

[Ring Of Steel]

Just had a look at this guy, it’s quite a read- he’s on about going to countries with no extradition treaty & saying “fuck interpol”, and posing with a gun saying he’ll shoot anything that comes near him with a badge

 

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[Grendel]

Yes, with ironic echoes of Enoch Powell.
Who are 'they', by the way? And i don't suppose 'they' defined at what point?

It was a direct quote from Rachel Reeves in an interview in The Independent

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Just had a look at this guy, it’s quite a read- he’s on about going to countries with no extradition treaty & saying “fuck interpol”, and posing with a gun saying he’ll shoot anything that comes near him with a badge

I assume you are talking about Euan Corbett, not Dmitry?

 

[MalcSB]

It was a direct quote from Rachel Reeves in an interview in The Independent

Gotcha.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

It was a direct quote from Rachel Reeves in an interview in The Independent

Kind of ironic that it is her government's inaction on the matter within their first month in power that has led to it (and a bit of hot weather and a hideous crime)

 

[torchomatic]

Far as I’m concerned, having seen some of the bits of footage, the people trying to burn down a hotel with people inside it should be charged with attempted murder/ arson with intent or whatever the right lingo is.

in amongst all the hubris maybe it’s got lost a bit, but this was a deliberate action which, if successful, would have killed several people.

Yep, I said that very thing yesterday. Those who tried to burn down the hotels in Rotherham and Tamworth should be charged with attempted murder. Thankfully, their fires didn't take hold, or this morning...well, doesn't bear thinking about.

 

[Grendel]

Yep, I said that very thing yesterday. Those who tried to burn down the hotels in Rotherham and Tamworth should be charged with attempted murder. Thankfully, their fires didn't take hold, or this morning...well, doesn't bear thinking about.

Well as Labour started the first week in government telling everyone there are no prison spaces I guess they’d just get a bit of community service anyway

 

[David O'Day]

I assume you are talking about Euan Corbett, not Dmitry?

Corbett is on the run, it's the other 80+ who are tagged that should be worrying

 

[torchomatic]

"Battle Of Britain". Daily Mail headline by the end of the week.

 

[shmmeee]

Those in charge have never had any serious intention of cutting migration. It was inevitable that non-EU migration would go up.

I strongly remember staunch Brexiters telling us it was about racial justice and non white non EU immigrants being given the same access as white Europeans. And a lot of Asian voters were told it would mean their family would have a better chance under “fairer” immigration rules.

We have what Brexiters said they wanted. A system that only cares about if you meet the country’s needs. They just don’t like that we have the needs we do. And there’s nothing short of being the first developed country to have a baby boom since the invention of the pill we can do.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Well as Labour started the first week in government telling everyone there are no prison spaces I guess they’d just get a bit of community service anyway

So by this logic, that it’s Labour’s fault (which we’re seeing quite a bit of), Mark Robins was entirely responsible for our relegation to League Two in 2017

 

[Grendel]

So by this logic, that it’s Labour’s fault (which we’re seeing quite a bit of), Mark Robins was entirely responsible for our relegation to League Two in 2017

Telling the whole country the prisons are full was a real master stroke wasn’t it?

What’s the prison system in Croatia like?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Telling the whole country the prisons are full was a real master stroke wasn’t it?

What’s the prison system in Croatia like?

So you’d rather they lied, I see.

 

[shmmeee]

Am very surprised how eager those on the right are to own this TBH.

 

[Grendel]

So you’d rather they lied, I see.

Well they’ve lied they didn’t know about the £20 billion black hole.

 

[rob9872]

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Am very surprised how eager those on the right are to own this TBH.

Am not surprised how those on the 'left' are only interested in making it political and blaming the Tories, suggesting they are part of the far right and standing proud and pointing rather than thinking about what might be done to change or improve things.

This isnt a time for point scoring politics, it's a time to unite and come together about what is right and wrong. First stop is give the police the resource and power to deal with it. Next is recruit more police officers and if necessary build more prisons. Make racism a proper punishable crime and lock people up for it. Finally, get a grip on what we need to do to ensure immigration is safe, fair and with the skillsets required and the infrastructure available to take them.

You can blame the last 14 years, you can blame the last 20 or more, what are we going to do about is now is far more important.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Well they’ve lied they didn’t know about the £20 billion black hole.

I don’t know anything about that, I’m honestly not sure what it’s got to do with this and I’m not looking for a political debate.

Some things transcend politics, and trying to murder people & bringing terrorism onto the streets like what we’ve seen here is one of them- I personally find it distasteful that some people are so reluctant to call it out for what it is instead of banging on about Labour & Tories, but I guess that’ll never change.

 

[shmmeee]

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Am not surprised how those on the 'left' are only interested in making it political and blaming the Tories, suggesting they are part of the far right and standing proud and pointing rather than thinking about what might be done to change or improve things.

This isnt a time for point scoring politics, it's a time to unite and come together about what is right and wrong. First stop is give the police the resource and power to deal with it. Next is recruit more police officers and if necessary build more prisons. Make racism a proper punishable crime and lock people up for it. Finally, get a grip on what we need to do to ensure immigration is safe, fair and with the skillsets required and the infrastructure available to take them.

You can blame the last 14 years, you can blame the last 20 or more, what are we going to do about is now is far more important.

Tory PPCs and MPs have been excusing the violence and claiming it proves a need for their political views to be taken seriously.

Like any extremist ideology the solution will be isolating the violent and engaging the moderate. But it’s all one ideology. Robinson, Farage, Oakshott, etc exist on the spectrum and are actively engaged in inciting and coordinating specific actions.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

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Am not surprised how those on the 'left' are only interested in making it political and blaming the Tories, suggesting they are part of the far right and standing proud and pointing rather than thinking about what might be done to change or improve things.

This isnt a time for point scoring politics, it's a time to unite and come together about what is right and wrong. First stop is give the police the resource and power to deal with it. Next is recruit more police officers and if necessary build more prisons. Make racism a proper punishable crime and lock people up for it. Finally, get a grip on what we need to do to ensure immigration is safe, fair and with the skillsets required and the infrastructure available to take them.

You can blame the last 14 years, you can blame the last 20 or more, what are we going to do about is now is far more important.

I find it hard to disagree with your proposals

So many people are obsessed with “left v right” that they’ve lost all sense of what is “right v wrong”

 

[Otis]

Anyone else find these buzz words cringe

"Lefty", "Gammon", "Hard Right, "Wokey"

Just cringe

Yeah. You can add "cringe" to that too.

 

[rob9872]

Tory PPCs and MPs have been excusing the violence and claiming it proves a need for their political views to be taken seriously.

Like any extremist ideology the solution will be isolating the violent and engaging the moderate. But it’s all one ideology. Robinson, Farage, Oakshott, etc exist on the spectrum and are actively engaged in inciting and coordinating specific actions.

So you've quoted it, ignored what it said and more whataboutery on how it's all the fault of others. That will definitely help

 

[Johnnythespider]

Have been expecting something down here, but not happend yet. Reform got a large chunk of the vote here and we are so close to France and where the crossings occur

The Labour candidate won with 15,000 votes, but the Reform candidate got nearly 11,000 votes.

Its ugly on the residents FB forum group too at times, but luckily, there are so many lovely people here, to counter any arguments.

I describe it here as Cool, Bohemia meets The Hills Have Eyes.

I was sort of half expecting some trouble in these parts, but maybe now we have passed the point of where it could have all kicked off by now

Hoping it will all quell across the country, but not convinced it will be the case, unless we send the army in, or it rains.

I was down there on the North coastline last week Otis, I didn't hear any talk about immigration at all.

 

[skybluetony176]

Telling the whole country the prisons are full was a real master stroke wasn’t it?

What’s the prison system in Croatia like?

The whole country already knew the prisons were full. The early release scheme was started under Sunak because the prisons are full.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

So you've quoted it, ignored what it said and more whataboutery on how it's all the fault of others. That will definitely help

I do think that people like Robinson etc are a huge part of it, but how do you stop them- they are masters at pushing boundaries without ever going too far, meaning that their racist & brain dead footsoldiers do all the hard lifting while they sit there feigning concern & blaming immigrants

 

[Grendel]

The whole country already knew the prisons were full. The early release scheme was started under Sunak because the prisons are full.

 

[Northants Sky Blue]

The Tory Press going all-in on Ten Names and also calling out the hotel burners as `Far Right'

 

[rob9872]

The Tory Press going all-in on Ten Names and also calling out the hotel burners as `Far Right'

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You bloody woke left Daily Mail readers blaming poor Tommy

 

[David O'Day]

The Tory Press going all-in on Ten Names and also calling out the hotel burners as `Far Right'

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He's a useful patsy to deflect from their own dehumanising of immigrants, it is funny to see though.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Who is saying otherwise? Well you probably would have said it’s a racist thing to say.

Classic avoidance and deflection. Why are you the only one on here at moment trying to provide some context to the indefensible? Are Dim Dom, Marty, Fatso, ADM, GynnsTheTonic etc. all too busy trying to the facial tensions in Cov? Hopevthe spirit of Two Tone and Cathedral (peace and reconciliation) wins through..... but I fear not.
Drinking, drugs and hot weather brings out the neanderthals.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

No it’s a quote from 2016 they said unless migration was cut as promised by Brexit there would at some point be rioting on the streets

So is this a protest against the Tory & Unionist party policy?

 

[Ring Of Steel]

Classic avoidance and deflection. Why are you the only one on here at moment trying to provide some context to the indefensible? Are Dim Dom, Marty, Fatso, ADM, TomRad etc. all too busy trying to the facial tensions in Cov? Hopevthe spirit of Two Tone and Cathedral (peace and reconciliation) wins through..... but I fear not.
Drinking, drugs and hot weather brings out the neanderthals.

it is indefensible, so they just go quiet.

I can quite comfortably say that I sympathise fully with, say, BLM and Palestine causes- but they shouldn’t be committing acts of violence and if they do they need to face consequences- here unfortunately there is a distinct lack of people willing to say that yes, they have a problem with immigration but that the actions of the last few days are totally wrong & those committing them should face consequences.

Even when these animals are trying to burn people alive & attacking the police they just will not come out and say it’s wrong.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Classic avoidance and deflection. Why are you the only one on here at moment trying to provide some context to the indefensible? Are Dim Dom, Marty, Fatso, ADM, TomRad etc. all too busy trying to the facial tensions in Cov? Hopevthe spirit of Two Tone and Cathedral (peace and reconciliation) wins through..... but I fear not.
Drinking, drugs and hot weather brings out the neanderthals.

Shut up you silly c**t, the riots and trashing towns were pathetic you baiting bellend

 

[TomRad85]

Classic avoidance and deflection. Why are you the only one on here at moment trying to provide some context to the indefensible? Are Dim Dom, Marty, Fatso, ADM, TomRad etc. all too busy trying to the facial tensions in Cov? Hopevthe spirit of Two Tone and Cathedral (peace and reconciliation) wins through..... but I fear not.
Drinking, drugs and hot weather brings out the neanderthals.

Eh what have I done? I have a Turkish wife and half Turkish kid, why the fuck would I want a race riot you fucking c**t?

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[Sick Boy]

This video has the weird "Christ is king" chant in it -

 

[David O'Day]

Shut up you silly c**t, the riots and trashing towns were pathetic you baiting bellend

Here he is, the fella who while the tories were dehumanising immigrants kept on saying "Boris lad!".

Sit this one out pal.