My daughters the same, she goes back in February after having a baby earlier this year, not even a discount at the nursery for her being an employee, she will be working for about £2 an hour after she pays for him to be at the nursery.
So many Labour voters said they just couldn't come out an put an X on their ballot paper because of Corbyn.
Plebs and thickos. Jesus christ maybe we should put an IQ limit on voters.
A lot of bitter sore losers on this thread.
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The other thing as well is the conservative strategy all along is better
Johnson positioned himself as the people’s champion against an unrepresentative Parliament. Every defeat in parliament grew his standing with the public and dumbos who were laughing at his continuous defeats were themselves the stupid ones
I wanted Burnham last time out as the best fit between left-leaning but acceptable.Well Andy Burnham has moved from 80/1 to 33/1 on the betting front, though I appreciate he doesn’t currently have a seat in the Commons and I was asking yesterday whether the Labour policies and processes mean he can or can’t stand. That’s who I’d be backing if he can be persuaded.
The error was going to an election so soon. Should have made him own his decisions.The other thing as well is the conservative strategy all along is better
Johnson positioned himself as the people’s champion against an unrepresentative Parliament. Every defeat in parliament grew his standing with the public and dumbos who were laughing at his continuous defeats were themselves the stupid ones
The error was going to an election so soon. Should have made him own his decisions.
Two pretty key things...Nurses & Doctors want to get paid fairly and have a nice lifestyle for the commitment they give throughout training & the early years. And some aren't prepared to wait. They, are enticed by fabulously better pay & conditions in far flung & exotic places...the US, Canada, Australia & many more value NHS trained staff higher than the NHS does...so they piss off elsewhere leaving a gap that needs to be filled...enter the need to recruit abroad. Some however quickly see that by studying further or working on certain projects & initiatives, they can become more senior &/or become more specialist & better paid - so ambition plays a part too...& they leave similar gaps, There is also a large generation of Nurses & GPs that are sick to the back teeth of changes, the work needed to implement the changes & the pace of change...so they get to early retirement age & take the money Then return as a jobbing Nrs/GP just seeing patients on a salaried basis with more set hours. Thst means the new generation of GPs & Nurses have to take the full load of the changes as well as see the patients..."& the needle returns to the start of the song, and we all sing along like before"My niece is currently training to be a nurse; my daughters' friend is a diabetic nurse; and my mates daughter is also a nurse. But WHY can't we produce more of our own? We do we have so many coming over? Is the training and education better and cheaper overseas? And, if so, how come so many come to the UK on student visas to study in our universities?
I'm not trying to be smart, I honestly don't know why we can't produce our own NHS doctors and staff and why there is this necessity to recruit from abroad.
Nope, because it would have fallen by the wayside.Which again shows your lack of understanding as he’d have had an even bigger majority
I wanted Burnham last time out as the best fit between left-leaning but acceptable.
He doesn't fit what the membership are looking for really, though.
An IQ test isn’t a test of gullibility it’s a measurement of how good you are at doing IQ tests, nothing else.Plebs and thickos. Jesus christ maybe we should put an IQ limit on voters.
A lot of bitter sore losers on this thread.
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Nope, because it would have fallen by the wayside.
There's always a new manager bounce when people can't be held accountable because they haven't done anything. Brown's mistake was not heading for an election while he had his, and 'not Tony Blair' was a winner. Once either his deal got passed or they'd put in place a second referendum and had it, or they'd reached a compromise withdrawal agreement across the house, the election wouldn't have been about Brexit anymore, and would have allowed other policies to come out. Once his promises didn't happen, then they would be able to be visible.
Instead, they allowed him to call the shots. They should have kettled him, forced him to reach consensus, and moved forward with that. Forced him to govern. Because he can't.
As we'll see!
My own money's on him being gone by the time of the next election, anyway!
I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he said something provocative...he does that. However, I get sceptical when I look at the overall message projected & where those inverted commas are...& cannot see the full context of what has been said.Boris said this just a couple of days ago.
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Indeed. I had always been nervous of Blair's shift to the right (left the party because of it!), and was always more aligned with Brown's pragmatism but underlying social beliefs.And I suppose that is the quandary. Whether there has been even the slightest change of opinion I don’t know - I like Corbyn but have come to the realisation over the last 2 years that he’s not the guy to win an election, and I certainly didn’t see it being this convincing! It’s evident a rethink is needed, and that means embracing slightly more centrist ground. The one Party member I know is of the same opinion, so it may be more widespread.
Only time will tell, just as with previous governments, I’ve always said you can only asses them 5-10 years after and the impact of their policy, I have varied my voting over the years, I thought Blair was really good at the time, I look back and realise he squandered the chance to really invest in infrastructure and hospitals etc, he rode a money train.Yes he conned them good and proper. With a posh accent, a sound bite or two and a talent for stand up comedy you can get an increased majority after a decade of shit..
Think I heard this guy...he was actually trying to say he didn't trust Labour under Corbyn's leadership anymore than the Tories, but believed Brexit should happen & the Tories were therefore the only realistic option. Now he expects them to bring it on with the hospitals, police, investment and Brexit.BBC reporter to working class Conservative voter: "So is your vote on loan to Boris Johnson?"
Thick working class voter: "Yes until he delivers"
Happy to be corrected but surely that should be 'till he fucks up' or something similar. To be fair though, I no longer have high expectations about such people to string a sentence together.
You can't blame the constituents...he's been a great servant to them over the years. He is just in the wrong party at the wrong time on the biggest issues the constituents have decided are the things influencing their vote.The story from Bolsover:
General election 2019: How Dennis Skinner lost his Bolsover seat
Incredibly frustrating stuff to read. No matter what the Tory says those constituents spat in Skinner’s face yesterday.
He's more pro Brexit than most of the Tory Party! He'd have happily voted it through!You can't blame the constituents...he's been a great servant to them over the years. He is just in the wrong party at the wrong time on the biggest issues the constituents have decided are the things influencing their vote.
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He's more pro Brexit than most of the Tory Party! He'd have happily voted it through!
There is definitely an argument now was the time for him to retire, but you'd have had to carry him out in a box for that to happen.He’d be 92 at the next election - he needed to be out out to grass anyway
Didn't catch her name...but a Labour MP/ex-MP was saying yesterday that Corbynism looked attractive initially with austerity a genuine target in 2017. Since, it got found out & the voters turned against it in droves & hence we have this result. Went on to say that we (Labour) have to move away from Corbyn & Momentum ideals. We have to be more open-minded to people & listen to them & properly consider what they are saying. We cannot just keep telling people they are wrong because they disagree with us & then just shout them down every time they voice their opinion.The positive from the election is that at the next election we’ll have left the EU and it will be 14 years since the last labour government so when the Tories continuation of austerity budget delivers a continuation of a crisis in the NHS, a continuation of a crisis in policing, a continuation of a crisis in social care, a continuation of a crisis in the prison service, a continuation of growing inequality, a continuation of the use in food banks etc. basically everything that’s rotten about the country that won’t change they’ll have to hold this government to account instead of blaming the EU, Labour or the 2008 world recession. I won’t hold my breath, the plebs will still be lapping up.
There are quite a few political pundits predicting that Boris, being a clever strategist, has duly noted that there has been a massive imbalance on investment in infrastructure in Scotland & the North East & the Midlands relative to the Sputh & London. They think his Government will likely invest in the old Labour safe seat's with projects that are highly visible & can be referred to as specific evidence of investment.Then actually read what they’re saying and come to a different conclusion. ‘Look at what’s happened to this area, no money gets spent on it so I voted Tory’.
You do get that makes no sense, right?
You come across as having nothing but contempt for those who see things differently to you. Maybe it is YOU that is out of step? Or are you a higher form of life?Yes he conned them good and proper. With a posh accent, a sound bite or two and a talent for stand up comedy you can get an increased majority after a decade of shit.
Still it will all be brilliant now so I’m looking forward to the party.
Typical lazy left winger attitude .We want our arses wiping all our life.Bring back the workhouses, why go back to the 70s with Corbyn when you can go back to Victorian times with Coventrian.
You might just be visited by 3 ghosts this Christmas.
But it also proves the point that people in GE vote for the party who they believe has the best PM in the making...not local policies in the main.He's more pro Brexit than most of the Tory Party! He'd have happily voted it through!
You come across as having nothing but contempt for those who see things differently to you. Maybe it is YOU that is out of step? Or are you a higher form of life?
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There are quite a few political pundits predicting that Boris, being a clever strategist, has duly noted that there has been a massive imbalance on investment in infrastructure in Scotland & the North East & the Midlands relative to the Sputh & London. They think his Government will likely invest in the old Labour safe seat's with projects that are highly visible & can be referred to as specific evidence of investment.
He is planning ahead for a second term already! The rest (bar SNP) will have a lot of catching up to do if these pundits are correct.
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We used to pay £700 a month for childcare. We never cried like babies on social media though. We just got on with it.The short time ours were both at nursery at the same time we worked out my wife worked for a loss one of the 3 days she worked at the time - this was back when you only got 15 hours a week funded for over 3s, and that was the only reason she was able to go back to work after our second. Remember she used to make about £100 a month after childcare but she couldn't work more hours as the more she worked the less she'd make.
Only time will tell, just as with previous governments, I’ve always said you can only asses them 5-10 years after and the impact of their policy, I have varied my voting over the years, I thought Blair was really good at the time, I look back and realise he squandered the chance to really invest in infrastructure and hospitals etc, he rode a money train.
I am not sure about Boris and conning people, he gave them a simple message they could believe and understand. The other parties could not do this and therefore failed at the basic test which is to convince the public to vote for you.
Starmer is the obvious one who'd make mincemeat out of Johnson in PMQs, but he could well still be seen as part of that metropolitan elite.Labour need to decide if it’s 15 years out of power or 5 years. Can’t see who can take the party out of the mire
The other thing as well is the conservative strategy all along is better
Johnson positioned himself as the people’s champion against an unrepresentative Parliament. Every defeat in parliament grew his standing with the public and dumbos who were laughing at his continuous defeats were themselves the stupid ones
Starmer is the obvious one who'd make mincemeat out of Johnson in PMQs, but he could well still be seen as part of that metropolitan elite.
Burnham as mentioned, but has been known to flip-flop, and is he strong enough?
Of the northern women they keep putting up... no clue what they'd add!
Hillary Benn as a leftfield choice, but burned his bridges with the membership so no chance.
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