David O'Day
Well-Known Member
It's a surprising and confusing situation as they jobs there were applying for are jobs such as shop assistants.
So this is what needs to be looked into then, this is what needs to be discussed and raised.
It's a surprising and confusing situation as they jobs there were applying for are jobs such as shop assistants.
The problem is that with the way a lot of hiring works nowadays, there's too many people involved which gives too high a chance for people to be discriminated against on whatever grounds. For instance, look at the way recruitment agencies have sandwiched themselves between job applicants and hirees - there's more jobs for recruitment consultants than for actual work it seems. These recruitment consultants, who exploit the relative difficulty companies face when hiring, can do whatever they like, without the companies ever actually getting to decide for themselves about whether an applicant is suitable or not.I don't doubt that name will give an instant impression for some which of course isn't right.
Is it the case that more BAME people need to be in recruitment?
I once worked somewhere where they had white people to do sales and asian people to do the technical stuff. They also had their wives clean the carpets with tooth brushes on a weekend. Long time ago and since closed.
When you go to Wing Wah, nobody has a Chinese name either.
You’ve pretty much just described the school system there. Catchment area doesn’t mean a fat lot anymore, unless it’s an underfunded, failing school in a deprived area that no one is trying to get its kids into. We moved a few years ago and the people we sold our house too brought it because it was in the catchment for Ashlawn, within a year it was out the catchment, our new house remained in the catchment despite being literally just down the road. Our eldest got into Ashlawn and started with kids from not just all over the town but kids who don’t live in Rugby and kids that don’t even live in Warwickshire. Two years later our youngest is going up to high school and again the catchment has changed, again our house is no longer in the catchment (I can walk to Ashlawn with a dodgy knee in 4 minutes flat) and my youngest’s got in on the basis of sibling already at school. Schools, especially high schools are picking and choosing more and more who they accept. Catchment areas are becoming a thing of the past.
True, but I’m talking about kids who didn’t pass their 11+. My eldest is in a tight group of about six girls, of them only three including my daughter are from Hillmorton, of them 3 1 wasn’t in catchment at the time and as of last year none of them are anymore and none of the six passed their 11+.One of the reasons Ashlawn has children from all over Rugby as well as from outside, is due mainly to it having a 'selective' element for admissions. We live in Clifton and all 3 of ours went to Ashlawn by passing the 11+ with a grade allowing entry into the grammar stream. Unless things have changed in the past 3 years, you can only attend if you live in the catchment area or are in the grammar stream.
I think she did end up in prison IIRC.There's more to education in rugby than Ashlawn School. Run by bullies and ,arrogant bastards . They care nothing of the kids at all. As for that last head, she should have gone to prison from what I heard she was up to ."Escorted off the premises" wasn't it ?
I think the head of governors remains. Shame on then all.
True, but I’m talking about kids who didn’t pass their 11+. My eldest is in a tight group of about six girls, of them only three including my daughter are from Hillmorton, of them 3 1 wasn’t in catchment at the time and as of last year none of them are anymore and none of the six passed their 11+.
If they're already lawyers what's the problem ?ADM is doubly weird because he says maybe black people don't want to be lawyers when Lammy is talking about the prospects of black people who are already lawyers.
Didn't he used to be a Welshman in casualty ?
Because a paper sift or a pre-interview awareness session can identify non-professional reasons for not progressing a candidate.How different is that to how it works now, in general?
People don't seem to get that economic injustice is part of the issue of structural racism
do gooder.
Yet you still haven't explained 2 of the best schools in Coventry being in deprived areas and a high BAME percentage of pupils?
It's not all about skin colour. I might be privileged that I bought a house and have a mortgage, however somebody placed by the council with no job has access to a better school than me regardless of skin colour.
Nobody is, just trying to learn more about it.This threads gone strange again. I dont know how anyone can deny there isnt structural racism.
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From the details that have been released so far it doesn't look good on the police. Once again no footage from the body cameras of any of the officers involved and if the content of the 911 call from her boyfriend is anything like what is being reported its pretty damning.It's going to kick off again in the US again tonight. There's an announcement due on the Breonna Taylor case today and they're preparing for it by... evacuating the courthouse and boarding it all up. Only one reason to do that!
I don't doubt that name will give an instant impression for some which of course isn't right. Same could be said if your kid is called "Chardonnay" or something like that.
Is it the case that more BAME people need to be in recruitment?
I once worked somewhere where they had white people to do sales and asian people to do the technical stuff. They also had their wives clean the carpets with tooth brushes on a weekend. Long time ago and since closed.
When you go to Wing Wah, nobody has a Chinese name either. When I go for food I don't care if they are "Keith" or "Ian" or use their actual Chinese names. They must do it for a reason. The irony would be great if a racist went there for food and whinged about their name.
This threads gone strange again. I dont know how anyone can deny there isnt structural racism.
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This is shocking. I wasn't aware of this at all.
When slavery was abolished in 1833, the UK government raised huge amounts for compensation. However, that money was not paid to those who had been enslaved, but was given instead to slave-owners for their "loss of human property".
That's staggering.2015 or something is when we stopped paying that back
This is shocking. I wasn't aware of this at all.
When slavery was abolished in 1833, the UK government raised huge amounts for compensation. However, that money was not paid to those who had been enslaved, but was given instead to slave-owners for their "loss of human property".
I went out with a Chinese girl for a while who used her own name. Amazing how many people still anglicised a name of one syllable!Apparently it’s quite common for Chinese people to pick an English name because we can’t pronounce theirs. This according to “Wendy” and “Sherry” that did a placement at our work. TBH I was kinda offended at the idea Chinese names are too hard for me.
That's staggering.
Who were they still paying? Relatives?
On the radio it says they are reviewing swing low, sweet chariot.
I'm quoting second hand, but I think Samantha Cameron has been a beneficiary of the 'compensation'Who were they still paying? Relatives?
On the radio it says they are reviewing swing low, sweet chariot.
I'm quoting second hand, but I think Samantha Cameron has been a beneficiary of the 'compensation'
This is shocking. I wasn't aware of this at all.
When slavery was abolished in 1833, the UK government raised huge amounts for compensation. However, that money was not paid to those who had been enslaved, but was given instead to slave-owners for their "loss of human property".
This is shocking. I wasn't aware of this at all.
When slavery was abolished in 1833, the UK government raised huge amounts for compensation. However, that money was not paid to those who had been enslaved, but was given instead to slave-owners for their "loss of human property".
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