George Floyd (3 Viewers)

[wingy]

It's more the 'how do you think this will look in the current situation to a section of your fan base and a section of the players' question that only has one answer really.

If we want to make it local, what if it was Dabo getting those messages? Would he share the same sentiment?

Same old, same old?

 

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[wingy]

It's retained or played by the party who's been governing for the last 11yrs .
Just won a massive majority playing on it.

 

[wingy]

It's not even just the racist undertone of the quote that's odd, but the intelligence of those posting/liking etc as the authorities have made a clear choice on grooming gangs or online racism. Do they genuinely believe its one or the other and can't be both? I suspect many are simply stirring the pot, but an equal amount taken in by it.

It does appear to have a dual interpretation.

 

[ajsccfc]

Hell of coincidence that #alllivesmatter goons don't feel the same about all crimes.

 

[Otis]

I have had a look at that tweet thread re the West Ham status and some of the replies absolutely stun me.

These are seemingly, eating, waking, breathing in and out human beings.

So glad I quit Twitter and FB.

 

[shmmeee]

Interesting.

 

[wingy]

I guess the actual data would give a different impression?

 

[shmmeee]

I think the increase in black students going in the last 15 years is really something to crow about TBF.

Whether Uni attendance is an unqualified good is a whole other matter, but nice to highlight some areas of improvement.

 

[wingy]

I think the increase in black students going in the last 15 years is really something to crow about TBF.

Whether Uni attendance is an unqualified good is a whole other matter, but nice to highlight some areas of improvement.

Be interesting to see the breakdown divided into sex category?
Vocational degree's replacing other HE programmes?

 

[wingy]

Throw in private education too.

 

[shmmeee]

Throw in private education too.

Problem with private education seems to be they don’t split down non white ethnicities and obviously have a lot of overseas students so it’s hard to tell much.

 

[Evo1883]

So let's get this clear. You are wanting people to say something really outrageous so you can put them on ignore. Wow, watch me, watch me jump up and down screaming like a baby .
Have you been wearing a soiled nappy all night long and no one has bothered to change it ?

He put me on ignore because I said the SPL was shit, comes across as an absolute wank goblin

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

He put me on ignore because I said the SPL was shit, comes across as an absolute wank goblin

You do realise that by quoting me he's going to be able to read what I said, and he's had me on ignore for weeks. Excellent.

He likes to fly the flag for every single group of people on the planet that aren't white and British.....and Church of England probably. I don't know why. He thinks it's his calling to despise what he was born as. He even pretended to be black a couple of weeks back to try and justify the injustices towards BAME people. That's insulting to them .
If you are on ignore wear it like a badge of honour.

 

[chiefdave]

Washington Post have been looking into the cases of several people injured at the George Floyd protests. Lets just say the police's version of events doesn't stand up to much scrutiny.

 

[King of the Lesbians]

You do realise that by quoting me he's going to be able to read what I said, and he's had me on ignore for weeks.

You sure about that chap?
When I've had people on ignore and they get quoted I didn't see their quote so it looked like the person was replying to nobody.

 

[ccfc92]

Colston statue: Bristol mayor says Marc Quinn statue was imposed by London artist

The statue of slave trader Edward Colston, which was erected in 1895, was pulled from its plinth in Bristol city centre on June 7

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Deleted member 5849]

You sure about that chap?
When I've had people on ignore and they get quoted I didn't see their quote so it looked like the person was replying to nobody.

I *think* it's different on tapatalk.

But yeah, don't ignore most of the time, but now and again it's wise to temporarily, to cut the endless circles It makes the threads look mental on a laptop at times!

 

[wingy]

Is this a critical moment in the context of the pandemic? Are we about to see a complete break down of society in the states with unemployment, racism and deep inequality acting as a powder keg for huge change?

Missed this before.
It could happen anywhere over myriad reasons.
In febrile times you can get strong reaction / action

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Trump answer to the question of black people dying at the hands Of law enforcement was

what a terrible question and white people die too. Ummm

 

[wingy]

Trump answer to the question of black people dying at the hands Of law enforcement was

what a terrible question and white people die too. Ummm

The thing that hit me watching those vids was that not only were their actions killing him ,but there seemed be a relish in that they were being filmed.
It looked and felt to me that that officer on a couple of occasions seems to shift / accuntiuate the effect of his knee pressing down, like trying to increase the effect of it.
Just me opinion/observation.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Are you gay or something? Fit as fuck bird and you whinge about some right wing bollocks. Have a day off, pleb.

He can't do it. Don't call him gay . He'll be offended because today he's a black, gay, staunch Catholic separatist, possibly disabled.

 

[stay_up_skyblues]

Fairly heated debate on prime time itv right now. Stephen Lawrence’s brother on the panel. Interesting viewing. Especially for itv.

 

[Skybluefaz]

This ain't gonna help

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

This ain't gonna help

Its really about police procedures surely, not race. There is nothing in this video that says anything other than the procedure of apprehending an assailant , in this case, involves pressure on the neck.
The audience with mobile phones at the ready clearly are incredibly grateful he is a black man. There is nothing that says they wouldn't do this if he was white and resisting arrest.
....it just wouldn't be all over you tube.

 

[David O'Day]

This ain't gonna help

Almost as if the Met think they are untouchable

 

[Skybluefaz]

Its really about police procedures surely, not race. There is nothing in this video that says anything other than the procedure of apprehending an assailant , in this case, involves pressure on the neck.
The audience with mobile phones at the ready clearly are incredibly grateful he is a black man. There is nothing that says they wouldn't do this if he was white and resisting arrest.
....it just wouldn't be all over you tube.

Wow

 

[David O'Day]

Wow

I am genuinely worried about ADM, I do think he needs a break.

 

[shmmeee]

Its really about police procedures surely, not race. There is nothing in this video that says anything other than the procedure of apprehending an assailant , in this case, involves pressure on the neck.
The audience with mobile phones at the ready clearly are incredibly grateful he is a black man. There is nothing that says they wouldn't do this if he was white and resisting arrest.
....it just wouldn't be all over you tube.

I agree to an extent.As I’ve said before the stories I hear about police racism sound like how I was treated as a youth and probably point to a general issue with how the police treat groups they don’t like/trust. While the targeting may or may not be racist (I don’t know enough to say) the action alone isn’t.

That said. How can you be a copper and not know how fucking stupid it is to kneel on the neck of a black guy right now?

 

[RegTheDonk]

This ain't gonna help

What a tool. See him holding his head, fair enough, but shit technique if he was on his neck. A hot potatoe so rightly suspended pending investigation. There was two of them for gods sake, if the bloke is playing up or resisting they should be well capable of lawfully restraining him.

Shame we can't see the body cam footage and what led to this. Copper definate prick but have to agree with ADM - no evidence from the clip that he was treated that way because he's black.

 

[Marty]

Wasn't he charged with carrying a knife in public? He's not the victim in all this. The police do a job dealing with the shit of society of a daily basis, sometimes they're slightly rough. They quite possibly saved a person's life last night.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I am genuinely worried about ADM, I do think he needs a break.

Really ? Playing to your mates again.
The bloke was carrying a knife.
Perhaps he was carrying it for fun. Perhaps he was ready to stick it into a bloke in the high street and take his phone. Perhaps he was going to rape a woman at knifepoint.
But because he was black these issues don't matter to you .
What a sad bastard you are.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Wow

Yes, wow.
He was carrying a knife. I wonder why.
Nothing good I suppose. Good people don't carry knives.
Wow.

 

[clint van damme]

Yes, wow.
He was carrying a knife. I wonder why.
Nothing good I suppose. Good people don't carry knives.
Wow.

I've no sympathy for anyone carrying a knife but I still don't understand why you'd kneel on someone's neck.

I've never heard of anyone using their neck to put a knife in someone.

As you said yourself, that procedure is wrong.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I've no sympathy for anyone carrying a knife but I still don't understand why you'd kneel on someone's neck.

I've never heard of anyone using their neck to put a knife in someone.

As you said yourself, that procedure is wrong.

Yes. The procedure is clearly risky and can be used, if needed , to kill someone as we have seen. For a police officer to use it after all that has gone on is ridiculous . It needs to be stopped.
However, is there anything there to prove the officer was motivated in his actions by race.
If the assailant was white and acted the same would the officer have responded the same way ? You'd hope so, but we really don't know .
Is there much evidence of this technique being used in the UK on either white or black groups and if so, is there any inconsistency in the figures ?
...I don't suppose they keep records.

 

[David O'Day]

I've no sympathy for anyone carrying a knife but I still don't understand why you'd kneel on someone's neck.

I've never heard of anyone using their neck to put a knife in someone.

As you said yourself, that procedure is wrong.

The man hasn't been charged with carrying an illegal weapon and his lawyer says he was legally carrying a tool to fix his bike.