Grenfell Bonfire

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  1. clint van damme

    clint van damme Well-Known Member

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    who wants to blame everyone?
    I haven't mentioned blaming anyone. I'm just putting you straight on your ridiculous assertion that people want to hold the authorities responsible for a faulty fridge freezer!
     
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    My point was it was an accident ffs
     
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    That could have been far less tragic with the correct cladding.
    Who's fault is that?

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    And now it turns out that when hiring WSP, the experts hired to test cladding, a clause was inserted in to the contract forbidding them putting forward anything that would generate “adverse publicity” for number 10, the cabinet office or other bodies.

    Of course this is clearly normal behaviour for someone who is confident they are blameless.
     
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    Oh for fucks sake what is wrong with you lefties........Ok...say if a plane crashes and the fault was some part of the engine not up to standard then lessons would be learnt and they wouldn't use that part again........Agree ?
     
  6. clint van damme

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    And the accusation is the fire wouldn't have spread if the correct cladding had been used.
    72 people died. it needs a full and open investigation and if said investigation concludes it was an unavoidable accident then fair enough.
     
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    Actually it was flagged up numerous times by residents associations prior to the fire as well as failed inspections.
    The fridge was an accident. The way it spread should not have occurred and had corners not been cut to save money wouldn't have occurred.
     
  8. clint van damme

    clint van damme Well-Known Member

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    but if the manufacturers had been told prior to fitting the part that it wasn't fit for purpose and they fitted it anyway then they'd be negligent.
     
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    And if they knew of the issue years in advance but kept the planes flying despite a clear risk of passengers dying you wouldn't have a problem with that?

    Personally I would expect any plane known to have an issue putting it at risk of crashing to be taken out of service immediately.
     
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    clint van damme Well-Known Member

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    Lefties? For fuck sake.
    Do you think only people who have to have left wing political leanings want to get to the bottom of tragedies and prevent them happening again.
    You have a very low opinion of people on the right and one I don't share.
     
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    Its like waiting for a bus........
     
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    Just seen the joke on Facebook about 4 illegal immigrants now claiming to have been in the burning cardboard Grenfell Tower.......

    is it me or do us Brit’s have a pretty unique not to mention sick sense of humour
     
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    I consider myself slightly right leaning. Muppets like you make me want to go left.

    The cladding was the cause of many deaths. The fridge may have caused one, if the correct cladding was fitted.

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    Happy to just blame the people that cut corners to save a few quid that ended up killing 70 people. You are obviously happy to put a numerical value on human life.
     
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    That is sick, but I can't be alone (can I?) in actually finding that quite funny.
     
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    The conception, I imagine, originated from pure gallows humour that was very possibly hilarious to those involved. We all laugh at sick stuff in the comfort of our own homes.

    Putting it online was the biggest mistake they ever made because everything online is taken literally and without context.

    The day after 9/11 one of my mates in school walked into class with a shirt on that had the burning towers printed on it. I was in tears of laughter. Not because thousands had died horrifically but because of the absurdity and darkness of it and no one directly effected knew of it so no harm no foul etc

    Todays world is totally different though and nothing is treated with common sense, just politically correct, knee jerk, click bait, thought crime, fake outrage bullshit.
     
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    a lot of it is just for the purpose of political point scoring.
    It's not a left or right thing everyone's at it and I'd be lying if I said I'd never fallen into the trap.

    The problem is it's a fine line between making a genuine point and faux outrage and whataboutery.
     
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    Looks like they have started to be named and shamed. A couple of them look like you wouldn;t expect it from them.
     
  19. clint van damme

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    never judge a book by the cover!
     
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    No, you're not alone, found it funny too.
     
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    What you blaming me for you dickhead....It was a fucking accident that hopefully will not happen again. Seriously some people :(
     
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    Are you mad ?
     
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    Where have I blamed you, you moron?
    Unless you were the cladding manufacturer, how could it be your fault ffs.

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    Shhh go away you bore me.
     
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    As much as these peoples actions may offend, they have not broken a single law and the powers know it. They arrested them under the only thing they could think of, public order, the CPS would never allow that near a court.
     
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    The Grenfell tower deaths were no accident!!!!!!
     
  27. Ian1779

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    I frequent this place so probably yes, but I'm no doubt in good company.
     
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