Gun powder (2 Viewers)

[Nick]

Did anybody watch it? It was hyped up and thought it would be good, turned it off after 20 minutes

 

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[Otis]

Not explosive enough for you?


I have recorded it. What has made me laugh is apparently there have been complaints about the violence in it, spite the fact that it was on after the watershed and the BBC put out a warning before the show.

How stupid are people? You were warned. Why then watch it?

 

[Nick]

It was so slow getting into it, just completely lost interest

 

[Otis]

I am really looking forwards to it to be honest, but then am fascinated by the Gunpowder Plot and do know the tale very, very well.

Did you know that some of the conspirators met at a Coventry pub just prior to the event?

 

[Otis]

It was so slow getting into it, just completely lost interest

As I say, I am sure I will like it for the reasons above, that being not of the drama but of the plot and the conspirators themselves.

 

[Nick]

I am really looking forwards to it to be honest, but then am fascinated by the Gunpowder Plot and do know the tale very, very well.

Did you know that some of the conspirators met at a Coventry pub just prior to the event?

The bit at the start was Warwickshire.

You have more patience than me so will get past that.

 

[CJ_covblaze]

I am really looking forwards to it to be honest, but then am fascinated by the Gunpowder Plot and do know the tale very, very well.

Did you know that some of the conspirators met at a Coventry pub just prior to the event?

The Dunn Cow and a now former other pub in Dunchurch.

 

[chiefdave]

I liked it. The violence was needed really, its historically accurate and shows why people turned against them.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

It was rubbish.

 

[Otis]

The Dunn Cow and a now former other pub in Dunchurch.

The Black Bull Inn, Smithford Street, Coventry.

I do believe there is a plaque up at Wetherspoons (Flying Standard).

 

[Otis]

I liked it. The violence was needed really, its historically accurate and shows why people turned against them.

Yep, exactly as explained. That was what happened and they wanted to show just how harsh punishments were at the time.

Will definitely watch it.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Yep, exactly as explained. That was what happened and they wanted to show just how harsh punishments were at the time.

Will definitely watch it.

Hmm, the lingering gratuitously on the nude body, the lack of teeth falling out and pox ridden scars on the main characters... realism only stretches so far...

 

[Otis]

Hmm, the lingering gratuitously on the nude body, the lack of teeth falling out and pox ridden scars on the main characters... realism only stretches so far...

Not seen it, so can't comment. My issue was with viewers who were warned, but then watched it and still complained.

Will let you know when I see it, but I do tend to turn my head when I see excessive violence. Often turn away when watching TWD.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

It was rubbish.

Or to expand...

It's typical Saturday night TV, in the vein of Merlin, Robin Hood, and other poxy pseudo-historical dramas, all done with a mass-market appeal and a burnished cloth of a glossy production.

What differs with this one is the violence, which is used as a selling point, a nod to 'realism' where there isn't any really. They've all got very modern ways of talking, walking, looking lovely.

Plus Baddesley Clinton wasn't Baddesley Clinton

 

[CJ_covblaze]

The Black Bull Inn, Smithford Street, Coventry.

I do believe there is a plaque up at Wetherspoons (Flying Standard).

Guessing that was in addition to the Rugby ones. Was he found in one round here too?

 

[NorthernWisdom]

My issue was with viewers who were warned, but then watched it and still complained.

Well that's always stupid anyway. Remember the RSC presenting this a couple of years back.

The Persecution and Assassination of Marat as Performed by the Inmates of the Asylum of Charenton under the Direction of the Marquis de Sade

In post revolutionary France the inmates of an asylum present a play about the murder of Jean-Paul Marat under the direction of the notorious Marquis de Sade. As the director of the asylum and his family sit down expecting to see a patriotic display, they are confronted with a performance that is unruly, shocking and outspoken.

So I Googled... and turned down the free tickets offered after the owner thought better of it Many walked out.

The title itself kind of gave it away that it wasn't a re-run of Only Fools and Horses.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

the Rugby ones

The Red Lion, it was. Now known (unsurprisingly!) as Guy Fawkes' House. It's on the corner, Tudor beamed... although the beams have only recently been shown off.

 

[Otis]

Or to expand...

It's typical Saturday night TV, in the vein of Merlin, Robin Hood, and other poxy pseudo-historical dramas, all done with a mass-market appeal and a burnished cloth of a glossy production.

What differs with this one is the violence, which is used as a selling point, a nod to 'realism' where there isn't any really. They've all got very modern ways of talking, walking, looking lovely.

Plus Baddesley Clinton wasn't Baddesley Clinton

Was it Hillary instead?

 

[Otis]

Guessing that was in addition to the Rugby ones. Was he found in one round here too?

It was some of the conspirators who met in Cov. Not sure which ones to be honest.

I believe at Coombe Abbey too.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

I believe at Coombe Abbey too.

They didn't meet there, they wanted to kidnap the King's daughter from there.

 

[Otis]

They didn't meet there, they wanted to kidnap the King's daughter from there.

Ah yes, correct. I watched a documentary on BBC Four a few weeks back. Getting muddled.

 

[Grendel]

The Black Bull Inn, Smithford Street, Coventry.

I do believe there is a plaque up at Wetherspoons (Flying Standard).

The Warwickshire pub is also true - the instigator of the plot was from Lapworth

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Enjoying it

 

[Grendel]

Ah yes, correct. I watched a documentary on BBC Four a few weeks back. Getting muddled.

No they met in the pub and then went onwards in the kidnap attempt.

There is an exhibition in Coughton Court where they resided for a time before capture.

 

[Otis]

No they met in the pub and then went onwards in the kidnap attempt.

There is an exhibition in Coughton Court where they resided for a time before capture.

Might pay it a visit one day.

 

[clint van damme]

Not seen it, so can't comment. My issue was with viewers who were warned, but then watched it and still complained.

Will let you know when I see it, but I do tend to turn my head when I see excessive violence. Often turn away when watching TWD.

bit of a bugbear of mine that. Some people just love to work themselves into a state of faux outrage.
Like you said, they were warned!

 

[Otis]

bit of a bugbear of mine that. Some people just love to work themselves into a state of faux outrage.
Like you said, they were warned!

It's almost as if they want t to watch it in order to complain.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

tbf (and I'll direct you to my earlier post for my general view ) it was gorier (sp!) than expected!

 

[Nick]

I might have to give it another go later if it gets better!

 

[CJ_covblaze]

The Red Lion, it was. Now known (unsurprisingly!) as Guy Fawkes' House. It's on the corner, Tudor beamed... although the beams have only recently been shown off.

That rings a bell. It’s in the village centre and opposite the Green Mann.

 

[Johnnythespider]

I quite liked it, I've never really looked into the history of the gunpowder plot, past some Catholics tried to blow up parliament. Not sure how accurate it is but it did bring home the persecution aspect to me. I didn't find the nudity or violence overly gratuitous, the treatment of the Jesuit priest being no more graphic than Mel Gibsons William Wallace in Braveheart.
Oh and Liv Tyler is in it :woot:

 

[lifeskyblue]

Really enjoyed the first episode. Not upset or offended by the violence or nudity. I realised plotting and sedition wasn’t a Teddy Bears’ picnic. I have seen much more gratuitous violence and nudity on many programmes.
Thought it tried to keep to the historical ‘truth’ with obvious licence to keep the story rolling. I’m looking forward to the remaining episodes.

On a side note I watched a docudrama on Elizabeth’s Spies (obviously before the gunpowder plot) which put into context some of the fear and divisions in England re catholic plotters and the crown.


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[pastythegreat]

I am really looking forwards to it to be honest, but then am fascinated by the Gunpowder Plot and do know the tale very, very well.

Did you know that some of the conspirators met at a Coventry pub just prior to the event?

I think they had connections to coombe abbey too

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[Otis]

Just watched it. I really, really liked it. I thought it was very good indeed. Also the violence I didn't think was too bad. I accepted it because that is how things were. Am a lot more comfortable with that than the torture porn of films such as Saw and Hostel, where the sick violence is conjured from the mind of a writer or director. I simply cannot stomach that.

Only thing I would take task with, with the programme is that in the titles it talked of the persecution of Catholics. Obviously true in this pocket of time and anyone who is into their history will know of this, but I would think people who are not so up on their detailed history, of which would be a large majority of the public, it could come across as painting Catholics as victims in general.

Over centuries Catholics tortured Protestants and Protestants tortured Catholics.. It was a dark period in terms of religion and suspiciousness and cries of heresy and witchcraft.

Just thought it leant a bit in its biasedness, but it was very well acted and it was great to see all the locations and the characters from history weaving themselves into the plot.

 

[Captain Dart]

I liked it. The violence was needed really, its historically accurate and shows why people turned against them.

Just watched it. I really, really liked it. I thought it was very good indeed. Also the violence I didn't think was too bad. I accepted it because that is how things were. Am a lot more comfortable with that than the torture porn of films such as Saw and Hostel, where the sick violence is conjured from the mind of a writer or director. I simply cannot stomach that.

Only thing I would take task with, with the programme is that in the titles it talked of the persecution of Catholics. Obviously true in this pocket of time and anyone who is into their history will know of this, but I would think people who are not so up on their detailed history, of which would be a large majority of the public, it could come across as painting Catholics as victims in general.

Over centuries Catholics tortured Protestants and Protestants tortured Catholics.. It was a dark period in terms of religion and suspiciousness and cries of heresy and witchcraft.

Just thought it leant a bit in its biasedness, but it was very well acted and it was great to see all the locations and the characters from history weaving themselves into the plot.

Ha, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!