Gyökeres Bids (6 Viewers)

Bertola

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Hoping he has crossed wires about Plange being on our radar, but as he hasn't heard anything else he's assuming it would be as Viktor's replacement.

You'd like to think that Robins wouldn't stand for selling out best striker (and it should be for a decent price if he goes) and only being allowed to replace him with a loan
 

1ccfc

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MR must have ambition for the club, and having only just signed a new contract himself, you would have thought he had a conversation about transfers and budgets. Unless it was a loan like Sheaf, where we obligated to buy the following year, this would be really disappointing if the tweet was true.
 

rexo87

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Nixon hears little bits of information and then makes up stories. Doesn't know anywhere near as much as everyone on twitter seems to think

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fatso

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That will be Plange

I cannot even stress enough how much selling Viktor and replacing him with a loan player would annoy me and really sap my optimism to be honest - Stinks of a complete lack of ambition from the club
If its true, (and that's a fucking massive IF)
It would certainly piss a massive load of fans off. I'd suggest it would risk stoking all the sissu out sentiment again, and I can't see that being helpful, not to mention the message it would send to the squad.

It would be an own goal of massive proportions from the clubs hierarchy, surely to fuck they wouldn't let it happen ..... would they?
 

Esoterica

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Given there doesn't seem to have been any significant budget increase despite the record ST sales and Robins seemingly dependent on shipping players out before he can make any major moves in the transfer market, then whatever money filters down to Robins from player sales really needs to be spent on recruiting our next saleable assets not on loan players. With such little wriggle room, it must be massively hard to bring in the calibre of player to make even an incremental progression. It puts us in a weak negotiating position for both incoming and outgoing players.

Still think we will lose both of Gyokeres and Hamer with the latter going just before the season starts (July 30th) and the money being 'put aside' so we can 'do something in January'.
 
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PVA

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That will be Plange

I cannot even stress enough how much selling Viktor and replacing him with a loan player would annoy me and really sap my optimism to be honest - Stinks of a complete lack of ambition from the club

What if that loan player scores 20 goals?

What if the Gyokeres money is used to sign a couple of top CBs?

I think it's a bit premature to get pissed off at a hypothetical deal!
 

alexccfc99

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It is the SISU way
If its true, (and that's a fucking massive IF)
It would certainly piss a massive load of fans off. I'd suggest it would risk stoking all the sissu out sentiment again, and I can't see that being helpful, not to mention the message it would send to the squad.

It would be an own goal of massive proportions from the clubs hierarchy, surely to fuck they wouldn't let it happen ..... would they?

Spot on
 

shmmeee

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What positions we get in how is less important that the strength of the squad overall. We need to sign two or three in the mould of Sheaf, Györkeres, O’Hare, Hamer, even Walker who are young and have potential. If they’re in different positions to those who go out and we get a loan ST and AM and a perm LCB and LWB then fair enough.
 
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What positions we get in how is less important that the strength of the squad overall. We need to sign two or three in the mould of Sheaf, Györkeres, O’Hare, Hamer, even Walker who are young and have potential. If they’re in different positions to those who go out and we get a loan ST and AM and a perm LCB and LWB then fair enough.
Yup, although being brutal about it all a forward who scores will always fetch more if you're developing for profit.
 

Colin Steins Smile

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If Gyokeres is sold, which really hope doesn’t happen. It will be interesting to see if his rate of improvement is maintained.
He’s definitely benefiting from our excellent coaching team
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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If I were in Robins’ position and saw basically every other side bothering to support their managers while I was being asked to let such a player go for millions with just a loan for a replacement, I’d walk.

His patience can’t be limitless and as and when he goes we’ll drop like a stone.
 

Northeast sky blue

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If I were in Robins’ position and saw basically every other side bothering to support their managers while I was being asked to let such a player go for millions with just a loan for a replacement, I’d walk.

His patience can’t be limitless and as and when he goes we’ll drop like a stone.
I believe he will be given money to spend, especially if one of the big 3 were to go, in the last couple of seasons we've been able to bring in Gyokeres,Hamer and Sheaf. I can't see that changing now
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I believe he will be given money to spend, especially if one of the big 3 were to go, in the last couple of seasons we've been able to bring in Gyokeres,Hamer and Sheaf. I can't see that changing now

Well we have had it said here that if Hamer goes all Robins will get to replace him is the wages
 

CCFCSteve

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Well we have had it said here that if Hamer goes all Robins will get to replace him is the wages

I don’t doubt some of the info on here is very accurate but who really knows that type of information with any level of certainty. We don’t even know what his fee would be yet
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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His patience can’t be limitless and as and when he goes we’ll drop like a stone.

When who goes, MR ? Gyokeres? Hamer? At some point they'll all leave. Just like Gerrard, Dalglish, Mane, Salah have and will leave Liverpool.

We don't know the future. We might get Andy Thorne Mark 2, or we might get Jurgen Klopp Mark 2 to replace. We don't know.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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When who goes, MR ? Gyokeres? Hamer? At some point they'll all leave. Just like Gerrard, Dalglish, Mane, Salah have and will leave Liverpool.

We don't know the future. We might get Andy Thorne Mark 2, or we might get Jurgen Klopp Mark 2 to replace. We don't know.

Robins. What is clear is that the replacement appointment would need to be bang on because there is a very tight margin for error with the finances as they are.

As for individual players as I have said before we enjoy them while they’re here and wish them well when they go-there’s always new faces to come.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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If I were in Robins’ position and saw basically every other side bothering to support their managers while I was being asked to let such a player go for millions with just a loan for a replacement, I’d walk.

His patience can’t be limitless and as and when he goes we’ll drop like a stone.
Really? You’d walk out of a championship managers job cause it was a bit difficult - wow!!
 
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Really? You’d walk out of a championship managers job cause it was a bit difficult - wow!!
Hmm, now I don't agree with Brighton's position, to be clear. But if your stock is currently high, and you might think it would decline due to the working conditions you were under, the temptation might be to walk, so your profile was still good when attractive jobs came along.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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For what it’s worth I think he enjoys the challenge and he probably has the most secure job in the league in a employment sector with a very insecure history
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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If I were in Robins’ position and saw basically every other side bothering to support their managers while I was being asked to let such a player go for millions with just a loan for a replacement, I’d walk.

His patience can’t be limitless and as and when he goes we’ll drop like a stone.

SISU are no more difficult than other Championship owners.

If fact they're probably far easier to work under - as shown by the fact they allow Robins free reign to operate as he pleases. Few managers have that luxury.
 

robbiekeane

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If I were in Robins’ position and saw basically every other side bothering to support their managers while I was being asked to let such a player go for millions with just a loan for a replacement, I’d walk.

His patience can’t be limitless and as and when he goes we’ll drop like a stone.
Mate will you relax. Literally nothing has happened yet you’re complaining about ifs and buts, and a comment from someone connected to the club that I’m pretty sure has been misinterpreted.

Plenty of real life actual stuff for you to complain about without getting worked up for no reason

Honestly
 

SkyblueDad

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Couldn't see Viktor getting sold without robins getting a chunk of money out of it,as if it didn't happen the love in with boddy by the fans would quickly turn the other way.
To sell Gyorkeres now would be madness if in anyway he repeated last seasons form his value would rocket has two years to go on his current contract too it’s down to Robins to recruit better players to play with and alongside him to make him and us better. Good all round centre-forwards like him are as rare as rocking horse shit.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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To sell Gyorkeres now would be madness if in anyway he repeated last seasons form his value would rocket has two years to go on his current contract too it’s down to Robins to recruit better players to play with and alongside him to make him and us better. Good all round centre-forwards like him are as rare as rocking horse shit.
Of course the counter argument is that if he doesn't and only scores a handful his value will decrease.

Personally I'd like to keep him because his all round game adds a lot, but IF his goalscoring decreased we'd need someone else to step up. Godden is a good goalscorer to play alongside him but there would be games where we'd probably be playing 2ACM's instead and would be rather toothless? (Of course depends on who we bring in for that position, but looks highly likely to be Palmer)
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Of course the counter argument is that if he doesn't and only scores a handful his value will decrease.

Personally I'd like to keep him because his all round game adds a lot, but IF his goalscoring decreased we'd need someone else to step up. Godden is a good goalscorer to play alongside him but there would be games where we'd probably be playing 2ACM's instead and would be rather toothless? (Of course depends on who we bring in for that position, but looks highly likely to be Palmer)

Palmer has averaged two goals a season in the championship for the last six years. It isn't beyond a turnaround obviously, but with O'Hare struggling with end product and now this guy coming in, I have little sensible reason to believe that our attacking midfield is going to be a reliable source of goals. Of course COH might come back this season with a mean right boot too, we don't know, but Gyokeres for me has to be kept as one of the highest priorities.
 

Warwickhunt

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Palmer has averaged two goals a season in the championship for the last six years. It isn't beyond a turnaround obviously, but with O'Hare struggling with end product and now this guy coming in, I have little sensible reason to believe that our attacking midfield is going to be a reliable source of goals. Of course COH might come back this season with a mean right boot too, we don't know, but Gyokeres for me has to be kept as one of the highest priorities.
Ambitious teams don’t sell quality CF as they are quite rare and that’s why they command £15million + fees who would we replace him with I ask myself?
 

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