Eh? Brighton definitely saw the potential in him too.
He doesn’t owe anything. You make it sound like we bent over backwards to propel his career forward whereas the club did what was in its own best interest and both parties benefitted. From what I’ve seen all he’s said is he’d prefer to go wherever he prefers rather than just the highest bidder.He has been brilliant over the last two years but no doubt he owes a lot to the club with MR and AV showing faith in him and bending the style to suit. The interview shows a huge lack of class and some immaturity to me. If I was MR I'd be on the blower telling him to reign it in before he gets himself a fine.
He has been brilliant over the last two years but no doubt he owes a lot to the club with MR and AV showing faith in him and bending the style to suit. The interview shows a huge lack of class and some immaturity to me. If I was MR I'd be on the blower telling him to reign it in before he gets himself a fine.
17m + add ons and a decent percentage sell on, seems reasonable to me
It doesn't at all - he was asked a direct question which was whether the fee was too high. His immediate answer was that it's down to the interested club.
It's embarrassing that anybody believes that an employee owes its employer for anything. We've gained as much as he has from his time at the club and are shortly likely to gain a significant transfer profit.
If other clubs are serious about buying him you'd think they'd have submitted a higher bid by now.Not to me.
He's an extremely sought after player. Taking the first offer is absolutely dog shit business. It is obviously too soon to say of course, but I'll be pissed off if that is the case.
If you want to get compensation for them leaving, it might be as well to pay them passing heed at least! Also in terms of signing future players - showing there's a pathway to career progression is no bad thing when making us more appealing than Millwall.Equally so is it not embarrassing to think an employer should concern itself with the future happiness of an employee that is leaving?
I'm sorry but that's arse gravy if I said something out of line in the media I'd expect to be up in front of my boss the next day. Its in my contract. He could have simply said I'm not going to be drawn on it. We have gained a lot from Vik but for him to play the victim card is frankly embarrassing and I expected more from him. No one forced him to sign his contract.It doesn't at all - he was asked a direct question which was whether the fee was too high. His immediate answer was that it's down to the interested club.
It's embarrassing that anybody believes that an employee owes its employer for anything. We've gained as much as he has from his time at the club and are shortly likely to gain a significant transfer profit.
I still think he will go for £20M+. Possibly to West Ham.Not to me.
He's an extremely sought after player. Taking the first offer is absolutely dog shit business. It is obviously too soon to say of course, but I'll be pissed off if that is the case.
Equally so, if you let a departing player dictate all the terms, to the detriment of the club, are you not showing that you have no ambition?If you want to get compensation for them leaving, it might be as well to pay them passing heed at least! Also in terms of signing future players - showing there's a pathway to career progression is no bad thing when making us more appealing than Millwall.
Surely it depends where it ends up though? There's nothing in there that says he's demanding to be let go for £50k. Equally, the club might be asking for £250mil for all we know!Equally so, if you let a departing player dictate all the terms, to the detriment of the club, are you not showing that you have no ambition?
This was the problem we had for years. If the owners/board demonstrate an indifference to the club on the pitch, why should we expect the players to care?
Surely it depends where it ends up though? There's nothing in there that says he's demanding to be let go for £50k. Equally, the club might be asking for £250mil for all we know!
Saying 'I hope they remember I'm a human being when it comes to my next move' isn't an out of this world statement, and any club worth their salt would do well to remember that.
And he gave his all since January didn't he, rather than downing tools.I’m purely saying this in the context of the “employee owes their employer nothing” comment.
It can’t all be one way.
Who has said that?Equally so is it not embarrassing to think an employer should concern itself with the future happiness of an employee that is leaving?
And he gave his all since January didn't he, rather than downing tools.
If other clubs are serious about buying him you'd think they'd have submitted a higher bid by now.
I don't really agree with that. Paid transfers are often done at the back end of the window (not suggesting that is ideal for us). I find it very hard to believe the first bid is the only one and we can't do better for a player like Gyökeres. Smacks of tinpot transfer dealing.
I don't really agree with that. Paid transfers are often done at the back end of the window (not suggesting that is ideal for us). I find it very hard to believe the first bid is the only one and we can't do better for a player like Gyökeres. Smacks of tinpot transfer dealing.
If it is 17mill, I'd expect something like 8 million for Robins to spend. That should just about cover Hamer's new contract for the next month or so.
The fact we're making a loss is an irrelevance, as he should already have a plan in place to cover that
If it was that easy, you wouldn't have all these clubs in the sh*t, as they are now. I'm sure they all 'had a plan' too, but pretending that £17m of income (or whatever it ends up being) when you are making a loss, is hardly an irrelevance; and if Doug King were to treat it as so, I'd be more than a bit concerned about his ability to run the club.
If it was that easy, you wouldn't have all these clubs in the sh*t, as they are now. I'm sure they all 'had a plan' too, but pretending that £17m of income (or whatever it ends up being) when you are making a loss, is hardly an irrelevance; and if Doug King were to treat it as so, I'd be more than a bit concerned about his ability to run the club.
If a club really wants a player and is aware that another club has had a bid accepted and is in talks, they're hardly going to sit back and not bother submitting one themselves.I don't really agree with that. Paid transfers are often done at the back end of the window (not suggesting that is ideal for us). I find it very hard to believe the first bid is the only one and we can't do better for a player like Gyökeres. Smacks of tinpot transfer dealing.
If a club really wants a player and is aware that another club has had a bid accepted and is in talks, they're hardly going to sit back and not bother submitting one themselves.
What use is 22m on deadline day though? Got a few million more but have no time to replace
If a club really wants a player and is aware that another club has had a bid accepted and is in talks, they're hardly going to sit back and not bother submitting one themselves.
I really feel like too many people have a very soft attitude towards this. There's a 5 million difference there, we aren't talking about a couple of grand. That difference alone would be more than we have made in players sales for about 5-10 years. People are seeing the 17 million and getting excited but in reality we could get quite a bit more for him. The transfer window isn't even open yet...
We need to maximise the amount of money we get for him as soon as we can do that, but that doesn't just mean accepting what the first club want to bid. Are we seriously of the mindset that no one else would offer more for him? He's one of the most sought after players we have had certainly in my lifetime. They'll be clubs out there that will offer more.
It staggers me that some people are saying we shouldn't pay 20k a week to Hamer, but at the same time are happy to let Gyokeres go for a cut-price deal just so we can play football manager on recruitment over the summer. Play hardball, start a bidding war, and get it wrapped up in as timely fashion as is possible. We know he is going for absolute certainty so there's no excuse to sit there and say we didn't have money to spend. We should be brave and astute, get as much as we can. There's a real tinpot mentality ingrained in some and it needs to change.
If it was that easy, you wouldn't have all these clubs in the sh*t, as they are now. I'm sure they all 'had a plan' too, but pretending that £17m of income (or whatever it ends up being) when you are making a loss, is hardly an irrelevance; and if Doug King were to treat it as so, I'd be more than a bit concerned about his ability to run the club.
Sell the entire team?So if Vik broke his leg, how would we have covered the losses?
Tbf they're as chaotic as we were in the SISU years, just scaled up and magnified!
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