Ccfcisparks
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oh dear
oh dearI read yesterday Vik could go to West Ham for 24m and we would also get Ings for free with West Ham helping to pay Ings wages for a full season? Ings at 32 would tear up the championship imo.
Done some research and I’m now happy to take you up on the bet. Shall we say £250?
- To be clear, I am betting that Viktor Gyokeres is not sold from Coventry City for a fee of £20 million GBP or more before the end of the current transfer window. If this transpires, you will pay £250 GBP to a charity of my choice. If Gyokeres is sold for a fee of £20 million GBP or more before the end of the current transfer window, I will pay £250 GBP to a charity of your choice.
- For the purposes of the bet, the £20m fee can include up-front and future/incentive-based payments, but does not include sell-on clauses
- The transfer fee must either be confirmed by one of the two clubs involved in the deal, or by at least two reputable news outlets. If the fee cannot be confirmed, or if the two clubs and/or multiple news outlets disagree on whether the fee exceeds £20 million, the bet is void. If you and I cannot agree on whether a news outlet can be considered to be “reputable” then the bet is void
- If the transfer fee is announced in a different currency from GBP, the exchange rate will be decided by the exchange rate on the date that the clubs confirm the transfer has been completed. If the two clubs announce the transfer on different dates, then the earlier of the dates will apply
- The beneficiary charities do not need to be confirmed until after the bet is settled. Only one charity can be named as the beneficiary
- Any payments to charities should be verified to the other user by a screenshot of the payment being made on the relevant charity’s website AND a screenshot of the money having left the user’s bank account. Each user reserves the right to omit any sensitive or personal information from these screenshots, but must provide sufficient verification to satisfy the other user that the payment has been made
- Payments can be made in multiple instalments if required, but all payments to charities must be completed by 23:59 GMT on September 30, 2023
- The terms of this bet expire at 23:59 GMT on Friday June 30, 2023
What confidentiality clause?Well, I'll give you one thing. You've certainly put a lot of effort into that. The only issue for me really is that I've come onto SBT today and seen two things: 1) That a bid has been allegedly beem accepted for 21 million euros. 2) You want to now take me up on a bet that means I would therefore lose straightaway should point 1 be correct, as it is slightly under the figure.
Given that the bet was presented to you a week ago, to suddenly accept this now, with some fairly highly suitable terms in your favour, I think that lacks a bit of class and takes some of the fun out of the concept of the charity bet if I'm honest. That being said, it is after all for charity, and therefore I think that's more important than anything else. If you can disclose the charity you would like to put forward, and remove the confidentiality clause, then I will be prepared to (at no earlier point than that) review with a view to accept the rest of the terms, and move forward with the bet.
I read yesterday Vik could go to West Ham for 24m and we would also get Ings for free with West Ham helping to pay Ings wages for a full season? Ings at 32 would tear up the championship imo.
It is nonsense that originated on some West Ham fan site, it was an opinion piece not a report.Bollocks! Are you pulling a Greggs on us? Where did you ‘read’ this?
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Expired?OK, would rather have put more research into it in terms of picking charities, but if @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 would like to know now, then he can have his choice of two:
Dutch Refugee Council, who seek to defend and protect the rights of refugees and asylum seekers in the Netherlands
Or alternatively, to mark the end of Pride Month, COC Netherlands, a UN-affiliated group working to advocate for LGBT rights in the Netherlands and abroad
Let me know which one you pick - I won’t insist on you offering me a similar choice, but it’s up to you!
What confidentiality clause?
I don’t really see how the terms are “in my favour” but happy to amend if you have concerns. I haven’t decided on my charity yet but I can assure you it will be a legitimate cause.
I haven’t seen any concrete news about bids being accepted so if you still have faith in your original bet then you should go for it! But if you don’t want to take me up on it after all then don’t worry about it, I know I kept you waiting a bit.
Eh? Money from sell on clauses is never included when talking about transfer fees..
Tell me do one, not my arguement, but I'm with Earsldon on this.
You put in the caveat of not including sell on fees. Take that cherry out of the equation and Sporting would have to bid more.
Eh? Money from sell on clauses is never included when talking about transfer fees.
Yeah but it's not a transfer fee - it's a sell on clause as part of the deal.Yeah but it’s clear that the 35% was added because we wanted £20m and they couldn’t afford it.
You can't quantify a sell on clause. It could be worth nothing, it could be worth £10m. Unless we want to keep the bet running for a number of years..
Tell me do one, not my arguement, but I'm with Earsldon on this.
You put in the caveat of not including sell on fees. Take that cherry out of the equation and Sporting would have to bid more.
But vik won't be as he has been on international duty.Apparently Players in training today too, interesting.
So what would happen if Sporting sold Gyokeres in the next few seasons and we got a £3-6m (or more) windfall for him? That would take us over the £20m in a transfer fee for Gyokeres.Yeah but it's not a transfer fee - it's a sell on clause as part of the deal.
So what would happen if Sporting sold Gyokeres in the next few seasons and we got a £3-6m (or more) windfall for him? That would take us over the £20m in a transfer fee for Gyokeres.
Sell-ons are clearly part of a player’s valuation, albeit it’s a ‘bet’ on a players value increasing. It’s Sporting’s only way to compete with the Prem teams financially and I’ll be surprised if one of the Prem teams in need of a striker pass up on Gyokeres. £20-25m may not look as good value-wise for a player with an expiring contract, but he’s good enough to make the grade in the Prem.
Who says, he has been away since Sweden went out of that tournament. Been all sorts said on here for weeks but he is still a ccfc player.But vik won't be as he has been on international duty.
Exactly, the only definitive is the actual fee. I thought SBT was quite generous allowing clauses such as winning goal in intergalactic cup final to be included, tbhwhat if they didn’t?
what if they didn’t?
Evidently not, we’ve just got some money from Maddison some 7 years. With the add-ons and sell-on fees, it’s likely we’ve doubled the initial fee we got for him in the first place.Exactly, the only definitive is the actual fee. I thought SBT was quite generous allowing clauses such as winning goal in intergalactic cup final to be included, tbh
In this scenario I have changed my name to Miguel Sanchez and fled the country to avoid paying up.So what would happen if Sporting sold Gyokeres in the next few seasons and we got a £3-6m (or more) windfall for him? That would take us over the £20m in a transfer fee for Gyokeres.
Evidently not, we’ve just got some money from Maddison some 7 years. With the add-ons and sell-on fees, it’s likely we’ve doubled the initial fee we got for him in the first place.
It’s also very rare for clubs to deal upfront in cash nowadays. Incentives, sell-on clauses and what not are the norm, not the outlier.
It’s a sell on clause, not the transfer fee.So what would happen if Sporting sold Gyokeres in the next few seasons and we got a £3-6m (or more) windfall for him? That would take us over the £20m in a transfer fee for Gyokeres.
Sell-ons are clearly part of a player’s valuation, albeit it’s a ‘bet’ on a players value increasing. It’s Sporting’s only way to compete with the Prem teams financially and I’ll be surprised if one of the Prem teams in need of a striker pass up on Gyokeres. £20-25m may not look as good value-wise for a player with an expiring contract, but he’s good enough to make the grade in the Prem.
Who says, he has been away since Sweden went out of that tournament. Been all sorts said on here for weeks but he is still a ccfc player.
Think theres more chance of plaiting piss.Get him to sign a new deal and let's put all this transfer shite to bed
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Yeah but it's not a transfer fee - it's a sell on clause as part of the deal.
I think you and a few others are seeing the point and missing it at the same time
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