Gyokeres (6 Viewers)

[Grendel]

There are 2 scenarios here. Only offer is the SL one and that’s it. Or a club like West Ham have said we will make a formal offer for Vik once Rice moves on for example.

I don’t see why they’d need rice sold before buying a striker

 

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[KenilworthSkyBlue]

There are 2 scenarios here. Only offer is the SL one and that’s it. Or a club like West Ham have said we will make a formal offer for Vik once Rice moves on for example.

Given last season they were one of the biggest spenders in the PL, it's a clearly a fabricated theory that WH are waiting to sell Rice in order to fund further transfers.

Also hypothetically even if that was the case, that transfer saga could potentially rumble on for months.

Regardless I think it's far more likely that WH just aren't really all that interested.

 

[fernandopartridge]

There are 2 scenarios here. Only offer is the SL one and that’s it. Or a club like West Ham have said we will make a formal offer for Vik once Rice moves on for example.

West Ham do not need to wait to sell Rice, why would they?

 

[CCFCSteve]

I don’t see why they’d need rice sold before buying a striker

Agreed. Rice is going this summer, probably for around 100m. If Vik really is a top target they would get deal done prior to Rice sale rather than risk him going elsewhere

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

Which is all fair enough. At the moment (what we can see anyway) Sporting are the only club pushing for Vik.

 

[SomersetSB]

When? If? Maybe?

Definitely maybe our kid!!

 

[Yorkshire SB]

The idea that no PL side is interested would really surprise me.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

The idea that no PL side is interested would really surprise me.

It could be the case that some have made enquiries but have been put off by the club's asking price.

 

[the rumpo kid]

All the prem clubs are doing is seeing how much we will sell for, then match it ,and give the player a higher weekly salary. You cant agree £18m with sporting then ask west ham everton etc for more.

 

[Yorkshire SB]

It could be a case that some have made enquiries but have been put off by the club's asking price.

Yeah possibly, though it’s not that much money for a player with his record, especially when you look at other PL successes.

Perhaps his finishing is too much of a concern.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Yeah possibly, though it’s not that much money for a player with his record, especially when you look at other PL successes.

Perhaps his finishing is too much of a concern.

It's still a risk though. Plenty of players who excel at one level can't make the step up. Even for us there are clear examples like McNulty, Walsh and arguably Dabo. He may well do well but it's not a given.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

All the prem clubs are doing is seeing how much we will sell for, then match it ,and give the player a higher weekly salary. You cant agree £18m with sporting then ask west ham everton etc for more.

course you can.

 

[fernandopartridge]

It could be the case that some have made enquiries but have been put off by the club's asking price.

I've said time and time again too that it seems Gyokeres wants to go somewhere where he'll play and be the main man, his agent will no doubt he feeding the same message to any clubs interested

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[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Yeah possibly, though it’s not that much money for a player with his record, especially when you look at other PL successes.

Perhaps his finishing is too much of a concern.

PL clubs aren't going to spend £20m for the sake of it though. It's still a large sum of money. Ultimately buying a striker out of the Championship with no PL experience is a risk, and there's far more examples in recent years of it not working that it actually paying off.

 

[Hobo]

It could be the case that some have made enquiries but have been put off by the club's asking price.

But if they really wanted him why wouldn't they just bid and say that is our offer based on our valuation of him? Then it at least opens a dialogue.

It is more likely, although he is on the radar of some club's, he is not their primary target.

He is 25 and needs to go to where he is first choice and not potential coming off the bench.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

But if they really wanted him why wouldn't they just bid and say that is our offer based on our valuation of him? Then it at least opens a dialogue.

It is more likely, although he is on the radar of some club's, he is not their primary target.

An initial enquiry will usually be made before a concrete offer is tabled otherwise they could just be wasting their time.

As mentioned in reality it's probably a case that PL clubs just aren't really all that interested and the club's valuation is beyond what they deem is acceptable. If SL have tabled a €20m package then the club should take it as they're unlikely to get a better offer.

Waiting in the hope that WH come in with a £25m bid is a ridiculous strategy.

 

[David O'Day]

There is other interest (clubs what will pay far more than the reported 17k a week in wages) and it's still only the 27th of June.

Let's see what happens in the next week or so.

 

[Yorkshire SB]

PL clubs aren't going to spend £20m for the sake of it though. It's still a large sum of money. Ultimately buying a striker out of the Championship with no PL experience is a risk, and there's far more examples in recent years of it not working that it actually paying off.

It’s not a large fee for a striker though. And the same can be said for buying from any other league.

 

[David O'Day]

An initial enquiry will usually be made before a concrete offer is tabled otherwise they could just be wasting their time.

As mentioned in reality it's probably a case that PL clubs just aren't really all that interested and the club's valuation is beyond what they deem is acceptable. If SL have tabled a €20m package then the club should take it as they're unlikely to get a better offer.

Waiting in the hope that WH come in with a £25m bid is a ridiculous strategy.

So we should sell early in the window for less than we think a player is worth?

 

[Hobo]

An initial enquiry will usually be made before a concrete offer is tabled otherwise they could just be wasting their time.

As mentioned in reality it's probably a case that PL clubs just aren't really all that interested and the club's valuation is beyond what they deem is acceptable. If SL have tabled a €20m package then the club should take it as they're unlikely to get a better offer.

Waiting in the hope that WH come in with a £25m bid is a ridiculous strategy.

Well Sporting have pitched an offer below valuation? So it would make sense for another party who is seriously interested to at least match it as an opener?

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

It’s not a large fee for a striker though. And the same can be said for buying from any other league.

Yes true, but usually foreign signings made by PL clubs have played consistently in the highest division of the country they're in and as such have more pedigree attached to their name. Hence why they command the fee they do.

 

[Yorkshire SB]

It's still a risk though. Plenty of players who excel at one level can't make the step up. Even for us there are clear examples like McNulty, Walsh and arguably Dabo. He may well do well but it's not a given.

Every signing is a risk though, so where do you draw the line?

Dominating in the Championship is a pretty fair indicator for being a success in the PL. There have clearly been a load watching him, the pundits love him, his stats are brilliant.

 

[David O'Day]

Well Sporting have pitched an offer below valuation? So it would make sense for another to at least match it as an opener?

Yeah, I just don't get the logic in accepting a under valuation offer just because it was there.

 

[Hobo]

So we should sell early in the window for less than we think a player is worth?

Kenilworth hasn't said that?

 

[David O'Day]

Yes true, but usually foreign signings made by PL clubs have played consistently in the highest division of the country they're in and as such have more pedigree attached to their name. Hence why they command the fee they do.

That logic is flawed, Vik may be foreign but he would be seen as a domestic signing by the buying clubs i.e. a player that plays in England in the championship. There are many that have many that have made that step up for more money.

 

[Hobo]

Yeah, I just don't get the logic in accepting a under valuation offer just because it was there.

Has it been accepted?

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

So we should sell early in the window for less than we think a player is worth?

No, I'm suggesting the club needs to read the room. It's an idiotic strategy waiting until later in the window in the event a PL club might table what in reality is an unrealistic bid.

It's a risk they're more than entitled to take but Blackburn attempted the same tactic last summer with Brereton Diaz and it failed miserably.

 

[David O'Day]

Kenilworth hasn't said that?

Yes he has, he said we should accept the offer Sporting have made. An offer that we see as below our valuation of the player.

 

[David O'Day]

Has it been accepted?

Where the hell did I say we had accepted anything mate?

I am clearly talking about people wanting us to accept the current offer from sporting.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

That logic is flawed, Vik may be foreign but he would be seen as a domestic signing by the buying clubs i.e. a player that plays in England in the championship. There are many that have many that have made that step up for more money.

The vast majority of players have made the step up from the Championship for more money have been English, have been younger, and have had more years on left on their contract than Gyokeres.

 

[David O'Day]

No, I'm suggesting the club needs to read the room. It's an idiotic strategy waiting until later in the window in the event a PL club might table what in reality is an unrealistic bid.

It's a risk they're more than entitled to take but Blackburn attempted the same tactic last summer with Brereton Diaz and it failed miserably.

It's an idiotic tactic to accept under the odds really early in the window as well.

 

[Yorkshire SB]

Yes true, but usually foreign signings made by PL clubs have played consistently in the highest division of the country they're in and as such have more pedigree attached to their name. Hence why they command the fee they do.

Yeah get that. Just find it surprising, it seems such an obvious move if I was a low-middling PL side in need of a striker. Perhaps that is the issue..

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Where the hell did I say we had accepted anything mate?

I am clearly talking about people wanting us to accept the current offer from sporting.

Disappointing we have accepted such a low offer for him.

 

[Hobo]

That logic is flawed, Vik may be foreign but he would be seen as a domestic signing by the buying clubs i.e. a player that plays in England in the championship. There are many that have many that have made that step up for more money.

It is also flawed logic to think if Coventry say he is worth £20 million clubs are going to open a with a bid more than that?

 

[David O'Day]

The vast majority of players have made the step up from the Championship for more money have been English, have been younger, and have had more years on left on their contract than Gyokeres.

What does where he comes from have to do with anything? He has selected status so no work permits and he plays in the league as them.

It's insane to sell cheaply this early.