Gyokeres (4 Viewers)

[SkyblueDad]

Why? They don't need to increase their price, we need to sell no matter what and they will know it.

No we don’t.

 

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[DrPoolittle]

Why? They don't need to increase their price, we need to sell no matter what and they will know it.

Exactly. A real risk that the price will drop if someone plays hardball.

 

[DrPoolittle]

No we don’t.

Yes, we do

The club need that money, so Robins can buy in enough players to replenish the squad

 

[SkyblueDad]

Who had told you that ?

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

No we don’t.

Yes we do

 

[TomRad85]

Not taking the piss and not ITK, just got a feeling he'll be with us next season.

Hmmm you've heard something haven't you?

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[bigfatronssba]

Yes, we do

The club need that money, so Robins can buy in enough players to replenish the squad

So what was the plan if Gyokeres broke his leg in the play offs?

 

[Hobo]

Considering the amount of deadwood we have cleared, freeing up some decent wages from the budget; I would have more confidence in the clubs stance if they had already brought in a couple more out of contract players.

Even if they were young players with potential and only likely to be back up or on the bench. At least it would feel like we are starting to assemble a squad?

Of course in a few days time the picture could look different?

 

[DrPoolittle]

So what was the plan if Gyokeres broke his leg in the play offs?

Spend within the clubs limitations

 

[SkyblueDad]

I have never thought we would be spending big money in this window but any deal with a fee would be structured that’s how it happens.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Spend within the clubs limitations

Which is what we’ll be doing if he stays.

 

[Sick Boy]

So what was the plan if Gyokeres broke his leg in the play offs?

Sell Hamer.

 

[bigfatronssba]

I have never thought we would be spending big money in this window but any deal with a fee would be structured that’s how it happens.

That goes both ways though. Any player we buy for a fee would be structured

 

[Sick Boy]

Which is what we’ll be doing if he stays.

If he ends up staying and signing a contract elsewhere in January it’d be a disaster.

 

[DrPoolittle]

I have never thought we would be spending big money in this window but any deal with a fee would be structured that’s how it happens.

Agreed.

£20 million for Gyokeres, means £3 million for Brighton, of the remaining £17 million, say £3 million in clauses, leaving the bulk £14 million paid to the Sky Blues over 3-5 years, maybe less.

If we spend on a player, we would do something similar. Hamers fee was paid over a period of time.

But the club needs to have that money secured otherwise you just rack up debt. Again.

 

[bigfatronssba]

If he ends up staying and signing a contract elsewhere in January it’d be a disaster.

It would be bad business. I think disaster is a bit of an exaggeration

 

[oldfiver]

Can genuinely not tell who actually thinks they are itk and who's taking the piss anymore.

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If the €18m offer was on the table last week it would have been worth £180k more then than it is now. Genius.

Go back to January

It also means they can offer more !

 

[Sick Boy]

It would be bad business. I think disaster is a bit of an exaggeration

£18m vs £0 wouldn’t be a disaster? Plus the likely prospect of another player sale in January to raise money.

 

[Speedie's Head]

£18m vs £0 wouldn’t be a disaster? Plus the likely prospect of another player sale in January to raise money.

and get a bad reputation for the club for not letting top, young players move on. That might be even worse

 

[DrPoolittle]

£18m vs £0 wouldn’t be a disaster? Plus the likely prospect of another player sale in January to raise money.

You mean selling O’Hare in January?

 

[Sick Boy]

You mean selling O’Hare in January?

Not sure we’d get much of any of our players other than him and Hamer.

 

[SkyblueDad]

If Vik stays he will I think sign an extension to his contract it would cost him a lot of money per week not to, could put a caveat in should a club bid a certain figure.
As for serious injury risk, why give out any contracts on that risk, it’s a bit of an occupational hazard unfortunately.

 

[DrPoolittle]

Not sure we’d get much of any of our players other than him and Hamer.

There is a crossover point where the club needs to sell Gyokeres in order to build a squad that is competitive. In doing so, we might be in a position where we don’t have to sell in January

 

[Tommo1993]

Couldn’t stomach him going for free. The club will have fallen into a barrel of tits and emerged sucking its thumb.

He can literally perform how he wants and be better off for it, the club loses out. Obviously don’t back down easily, but don’t be so stubborn that it kills you.

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Not sure we’d get much of any of our players other than him and Hamer.

I doubt the club would really get much for O'Hare now to be honest. Clubs aren't going to fork out a big fee for a player who's just come back from an ACL.

 

[hill83]

We're 4 weeks or so from the season starting and have 1 other senior striker at the club. We sell Gyokeres with a week left of the window and what happens?

 

[DrPoolittle]

If Vik stays he will I think sign an extension to his contract it would cost him a lot of money per week not to, could put a caveat in should a club a certain figure.
As for serious injury risk, why give out any contracts on that risk, it’s a bit of an occupational hazard unfortunately.

No, he won’t sign a new contract. That’s why he needs to be sold and before his price drops any further

 

[DrPoolittle]

Which is what we’ll be doing if he stays.

He wont stay. We can’t afford him to stay.

The club can’t afford 8-10 new players without selling Gyokeres

 

[Yorkshire SB]

We're 4 weeks or so from the season starting and have 1 other senior striker at the club. We sell Gyokeres with a week left of the window and what happens?

but this is the here and now, not this hypothetical scenario which is v unlikely

 

[SkyblueDad]

So if he decided

He wont stay. We can’t afford him to stay.

The club can’t afford 8-10 new players without selling Gyokeres

So if he stays or let’s put it another way there are no concrete or acceptable offers on the table does that mean Doug King had been economical with the truth regarding his “we have no debt” statements.

 

[Hobo]

I doubt the club would really get much for O'Hare now to be honest. Clubs aren't going to fork out a big fee for a player who's just come back from an ACL.

He hasn't yet?

 

[fernandopartridge]

but this is the here and now, not this hypothetical scenario which is v unlikely

You were the one that suggested there were weeks of the window left and that any hypothetical scenario within that framework was fine

 

[Yorkshire SB]

I’m starting to think a few posters aren’t the master negotiators/business minds they like
to think they are.

The club will have a bottom value in mind and if that’s not met then we have to walk away.

 

[Yorkshire SB]

You were the one that suggested there were weeks of the window left and that any hypothetical scenario within that framework was fine

I’m stating facts, there are weeks left. Not a hypothetical scenario where we’re selling at the last minute, and only have Godden on the books.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I’m stating facts, there are weeks left. Not a hypothetical scenario where we’re selling at the last minute, and only have Godden on the books.

There are weeks left but there aren't, glad we're agreed