Lol. At least make a call. In my view you pay £4.5m to league 1 you have to be buying the crem de la crem. Afraid hes not. Let me call it now.I have no idea if he's good or if he's going to be value for money as he's barely played yet
I think this is part of the problem. Some posters are trying to make comparisons with the likes of Huddersfield, QPR, and Blackburn with teams on a totally different level. We currently don't have to beat Barcelona, RM, and Man city. 7M wouldn't buy them a reserve team playerTotally agree, ..... but, we are very nearly a quarter of the way through the season, and this isn't the premier league, it's a very average championship, we've just played Huddersfield, QPR, and Blackburn, not Barcelona, Real Madrid and Man City.
How long should we wait before we expect to see signs that he's a £7+m international striker? Or before we realise that we may of made a mistake?
And just for the record, I honestly hope he does become the striker we desperately need, my only hope is that the return of O'hare along with Sheaf and Palmer etc may result in more chances for him.
League 1 players tend to move up a league at a time , very rare that one moves directly to the premier league .Lol. At least make a call. In my view you pay £4.5m to league 1 you have to be buying the crem de la crem. Afraid hes not. Let me call it now.
Premier league clubs wouldnt buy for those sums from league 1 unless your an unbelievable talent.
Just give him some timeHe’s a Rochdale reserve isn’t he
Yes, but my point is that a £7+million pound international striker, should be terrorising championship defences.I think this is part of the problem. Some posters are trying to make comparisons with the likes of Huddersfield, QPR, and Blackburn with teams on a totally different level. We currently don't have to beat Barcelona, RM, and Man city. 7M wouldn't buy them a reserve team player
There could be something in that to an extent but America along Australia and New Zealand are probably the closest culturally to the UK as you can get. When he joined the Turkish league that may have been a factor. With regards to how moving effrcts a players ability to preform, the young lad Doku is not struggling to adapt at Man City, Moussa Diaby has settled in nicely at Aston Villa. Rasmus højlund a 20yo at Utd has settled in really well and seamlessly adapted to English football, Mahrez who cost hardly anything settled at Leicester. I realise some of those players cost more than Hadji but they are playing at a higher level and are shining. There will be other examples of players who didn't settle well, but for me that is 90% more down to ability. Pleasingly Hadji played well last night when he came on and I get the sense he is a confidence player and to get the best out of him needs to be really courageous and fully run at players without fear of losing the ball or getting tackled. Fingers crossed he will shine from here and the coaching team can improve areas the he needs to develop in.He’s just moved to a new country, new team mates, new formation, new tactics. It takes some people a bit longer to adjust. There’s far more to it than just ability, they’re human beings
I have to admit I was gobsmacked that we payed £4.5m for a league 1 player. We seem to get pissed up with money once we sold Gyokeres.Lol. At least make a call. In my view you pay £4.5m to league 1 you have to be buying the crem de la crem. Afraid hes not. Let me call it now.
Premier league clubs wouldnt buy for those sums from league 1 unless your an unbelievable talent.
How does that work? The strikers that “terrorised” Championship defences last year went for £10m, £12m and £20m.Yes, but my point is that a £7+million pound international striker, should be terrorising championship defences.
I think it's becoming clear that a few posters have firmly nailed their flag to the 'two useless donkeys' mast.
From that position they cannot bring themselves to admit they might be wrong.
I imagine he has played fewer than two matches worth of time. Most of those appearances were very short.Tavares has 1 goal in 16 appearances in the Championship (albeit often short ones)
Tavares is nowhere near good enough for us.There's people on here who wrote (22 year old) Tavares off and still don't think he'll make it, and yet Wright (age 25) who has had way more minutes than Tavares and they want more time for the guy to "gel"
Unbelievable!
When have all these matches been when you have seen him?Tavares is nowhere near good enough for us.
But how can you tell, he's only played half the minutes Wright has, and apparently Wright still needs time to "gel" but in terms of minutes per goal they are similar.Tavares is nowhere near good enough for us.
It’s actually amazing you’re more supportive of him and give him a lot more leeway than Simms who’s the same age.When have all these matches been when you have seen him?
He's played c. five games worth of minutes, two goals, two assists. With a bit of luck (Leicester) and a quicker reaction (Huddersfield), he'd have four goals. His stats aren't bad as they are.Yes, but my point is that a £7+million pound international striker, should be terrorising championship defences.
Back in reality Wright is a full international and the other is only 3 years younger and has never played sustained first team football.But how can you tell, he's only played half the minutes Wright has, and apparently Wright still needs time to "gel" but in terms of minutes per goal they are similar.
But Tavares is 3 years younger, faster, and can control and trap a football.
(I'm not saying Tavares is better or not, I'm just pointing out the complete nonsense that's spouted on here)
I hope your right. Seriously, I know I've slated him, but we can't afford to fuck up a £7.7m signing.He's played about five games worth of minutes, got two goals and two assists. With a bit of luck (Leicester) and a quicker reaction (Huddersfield), he'd have four goals. His stats as they are are fine.
He's shown flashes of having the skillset and attributes to do what you're saying. Pace, power, seems two footed. I'm looking fwd to him starting some games with Simms when the time's right.
I think he'll do what you're saying, and I think he's shown more than Vik did in his loan spell. Fans are behind him at games and he's got coaches and MR who improve players. I'm glad he's here.
Also @shmmeee I thought ayari tried harder second half. Was he good at pressing? Not particularly, but I thought you could see him trying to do what was needed.
I have very little idea how good Tavares is because I have hardly seen him play. I have seen him score a great goal and play a crucial role in another.It’s actually amazing you’re more supportive of him and give him a lot more leeway than Simms who’s the same age.
The fact he’s hardly played first team footballer here and elsewhere in his career says a lot - he’s almost 23, not some 16 year old breaking through into the first team.I have very little idea how good Tavares is because I have hardly seen him play. I have seen him score a great goal and play a crucial role in another.
You have a clear view and seemed to have before he'd even played a minute for us. Genuinely I would love to know what that us based on. Was it all down to Grendel saying he had seen him in an under 21 match and saying he didn't rate him? Or had you seen him yourself?
So what are the matches you have seen? You said he was no good before he had played for us.The fact he’s hardly played first team footballer here and elsewhere in his career says a lot - he’s almost 23, not some 16 year old breaking through into the first team.
As I said, you’ve given Simms plenty of stick despite him only just arriving at the club and being the same age as Tavares and actually being successful elsewhere.
Says it all.
This is just embarrassing.So what are the matches you have seen? You said he was no good before he had played for us.
He’s a £500k signing at best.So
So who actually thinks hes worth 7.7M.?
Lol this will be funny.
Or actually who thinks hes worth half his fee?
He’s a £500k signing at best.
He's played c. five games worth of minutes, two goals, two assists. With a bit of luck (Leicester) and a quicker reaction (Huddersfield), he'd have four goals. His stats aren't bad as they are.
He's shown flashes of having the skillset and attributes to do what you're saying. Pace, power, seems two footed. I'm looking fwd to him starting some games with Simms when the time's right.
I think he'll do what you're saying, and I think he's shown more than Vik did in his loan spell. Fans are behind him at games and he's got coaches and MR who improve players. I'm glad he's here.
Show your workingsHe’s a £500k signing at best.
Great post.
Fucking guy needs bust a gut! Just like Kelly did himself an injury getting back at all costs on their breakaway.
Fucking wont have it a guy pussy footing around the pitch like he does for his cameos. Unacceptable. My point of view. And I stand by it. Its not enough for me.
In saying that he seems a timid character and I was over the moon he scored.
A Bukowski GIF is a 4D chess move. Kudos.
I have very little idea how good Tavares is because I have hardly seen him play. I have seen him score a great goal and play a crucial role in another.
You have a clear view and seemed to have before he'd even played a minute for us. Genuinely I would love to know what that us based on. Was it all down to Grendel saying he had seen him in an under 21 match and saying he didn't rate him? Or had you seen him yourself?
Also a strange choice given he has had plenty of support at games.Seems this one passed our fans by , strange thatView attachment 32038
Also a strange choice as he’s had plenty of support shown to him at games.Seems this one passed our fans by , strange thatView attachment 32038
Gyokeres trained incredibly hard to fulfil his ability and potential. We can only hope that Wright has the same work ethic moving forward
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