Hillary / US Election Thread (2 Viewers)

[AngryAnt]

I reckon he'll be ousted, impeached or assassinated within 2 years of his term.......the powers that be will not stand for this......

The best possibly outcome for the US is that he says something insanely racist/stupid/basically a Friday and he gets impeached. I believe that the Republican party (and his running mate) have already considered this.

The US is more divided than the UK at the moment and they own a whole heap of guns.

 

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[Nick]

The best possibly outcome for the US is that he says something insanely racist/stupid/basically a Friday and he gets impeached. I believe that the Republican party (and his running mate) have already considered this.

That said, I do wonder how long it will take for someone to make an assassination attempt on him. The US is more divided than the UK at the moment and they own a whole heap of guns.

If it happens you are now a suspect...

 

[dutchman]

Where's Hillary? Which hole is she hiding in?

 

[chiefdave]

The best possibly outcome for the US is that he says something insanely racist/stupid/basically a Friday and he gets impeached. I believe that the Republican party (and his running mate) have already considered this.

How bad would it have to be considering some of the things he's already said?
He's due in court in December to answer an accusation of raping a 13 year old girl isn't he, unless that's all been called off.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

with the Republicans gaining seats elsewhere within the government that is going to be easier for him to push things through.

Fortunately (and the first time I can say I approve of the American system!) just because you're under the umbrella of Republican doesn't mean you'll vote with Trump.

They on't get whipped like our MPs, they're far more inepenent. Republicanism covers a broad sweep, as we've seen with the number against their candidate. Hell, if even George Bush doesn't vote for Trump, then you know things are divided!

 

[Gazolba]

A great victory for democracy. I just love it when all the so-called experts are proved wrong. Hilary Clinton would have been a disaster for the United States. Trump will probably prove to be one of the greatest presidents.

 

[rd45]

A great victory for democracy. I just love it when all the so-called experts are proved wrong. Hilary Clinton would have been a disaster for the United States. Trump will probably prove to be one of the greatest presidents.

Oh my fucking god, they're everywhere.

 

[Gazolba]

Trump said the election was rigged before being elected. What can he say now ?

If it wasn't rigged, he'd have won by an even bigger margin. The Clintons spent untold millions on their campaign, Trump spent just a fraction of that.

 

[Nick]

Oh my fucking god, they're everywhere.

I have just checked his email address, it is [email protected]. Panic over!*


*it isn't, just in case.

 

[AngryAnt]

If it happens you are now a suspect...

You mean if he gets impeached?

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I do wonder if the republicans will try to contain him, or if he will go through with everything he's said.

 

[AngryAnt]

How bad would it have to be considering some of the things he's already said?
He's due in court in December to answer an accusation of raping a 13 year old girl isn't he, unless that's all been called off.

The mud didn't stick though, even one of the things that came to light during his campaign would sink anyone over here, yet he just seemed to brush it off.

 

[Otis]

If it wasn't rigged, he'd have won by an even bigger margin. The Clintons spent untold millions on their campaign, Trump spent just a fraction of that.

Trump spent £4m on just one single tv ad the other day.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Trump spent £4m on just one single tv ad the other day.

So 10 years salary to get just that one advert back

 

[Ian1779]

Do you think if Sanders had been the Democrat candidate he would have won?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Do you think if Sanders had been the Democrat candidate he would have won?

It's an interesting question, isn't it.

Conventional wisdom says don't be daft, but current anti-establishment feeling says... maybe.

Do think in this country, Corbyn's way to power might be to leave the Labour Party himself. Currently his MPs are seen as establishment, even if he isn't...

 

[Otis]

It's an interesting question, isn't it.

Conventional wisdom says don't be daft, but current anti-establishment feeling says... maybe.

Do think in this country, Corbyn's way to power might be to leave the Labour Party himself. Currently his MPs are seen as establishment, even if he isn't...

I do wonder if both Sanders and Corbin were 25 years younger and more attractive and suave they would go a lot further.

Image is still important to a degree (I know, not Theresa May, but Cameron had a youngness and energy about him). Blair got in because he was young and vibrant and fresh.

Interesting to note that Trump is 70 and Clinton 69.

I wonder how he would have fared against a younger JFK type.

Not sure how old Sanders is, but he does appear to be older and more tired looking than Trump.

Just checked and he is 75, but somehow seems older.

 

[Monners]

Do you think he will now have surgery to turn his mouth the right way around?

 

[M&B Stand]

Oh my fucking god, they're everywhere.

Who are? People with a different opinion than you?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I can totally understand people bashing Trump, he is an idiot. However, trying to take the moral high ground by throwing support behind Hillary is just ridiculous.

This really is Brexit #2. Contrary to what the media try and swindle, this is not the far right or the far left that are making up the votes, this is the people in the middle who have made these two decisions. Whilst you can almost class this demographic as the silent majority, these people have voted against the establishment and against the politicians who have forgotten who they are supposed to represent.

Whilst both votes came as a bit of a surprise to many, it's largely down to these people making up the votes not having the PC side of the argument and in many circumstances left scared of speaking out through being branded racist, fascist, bigoted, uneducated etc etc.

Some say this is the end of democracy, I say it is a well needed reforming. Those who are supposed to represent us have been letting the people and themselves down for a long time now, and maybe this year is the kick up the arse they need in order to start doing their jobs properly moving forward.

 

[Otis]

I can totally understand people bashing Trump, he is an idiot. However, trying to take the moral high ground by throwing support behind Hillary is just ridiculous.

This really is Brexit #2. Contrary to what the media try and swindle, this is not the far right or the far left that are making up the votes, this is the people in the middle who have made these two decisions. Whilst you can almost class this demographic as the silent majority, these people have voted against the establishment and against the politicians who have forgotten who they are supposed to represent.

Whilst both votes came as a bit of a surprise to many, it's largely down to these people making up the votes not having the PC side of the argument and in many circumstances left scared of speaking out through being branded racist, fascist, bigoted, uneducated etc etc.

Some say this is the end of democracy, I say it is a well needed reforming. Those who are supposed to represent us have been letting the people and themselves down for a long time now, and maybe this year is the kick up the arse they need in order to start doing their jobs properly moving forward.

Yeah, all for a kick up the arse, but does it have to come from a leader who is racist, sexist, opposed to gay marriage, is anti abortion and totally for America to become more a wild west shoot out and wants to arm all teachers.

Expect on 5Live today did a breakdown and said that the votes were broadly split of racial grounds.

Whites voted for Trump and the others for Clinton.

He also stated that people earning over 50,000 voted for Trump and those earning less than 50,000 voted for Clinton. Bit of a surprise that.

 

[clint van damme]

I can totally understand people bashing Trump, he is an idiot. However, trying to take the moral high ground by throwing support behind Hillary is just ridiculous.

This really is Brexit #2. Contrary to what the media try and swindle, this is not the far right or the far left that are making up the votes, this is the people in the middle who have made these two decisions. Whilst you can almost class this demographic as the silent majority, these people have voted against the establishment and against the politicians who have forgotten who they are supposed to represent.

Whilst both votes came as a bit of a surprise to many, it's largely down to these people making up the votes not having the PC side of the argument and in many circumstances left scared of speaking out through being branded racist, fascist, bigoted, uneducated etc etc.

Some say this is the end of democracy, I say it is a well needed reforming. Those who are supposed to represent us have been letting the people and themselves down for a long time now, and maybe this year is the kick up the arse they need in order to start doing their jobs properly moving forward.

The KKK endorsement of Trump contradicts that point slightly.

 

[Otis]

The KKK endorsement of Trump contradicts that point slightly.

And the French National Front.

Seems the right are very happy to have someone with racist views and intolerance to gays in charge.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

The KKK endorsement of Trump contradicts that point slightly.

What about the KKK endorsement of Killary?

http://www.infowars.com/kkk-grand-dragon-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president/

 

[chiefdave]

Do you think if Sanders had been the Democrat candidate he would have won?

Would have been interesting for sure. As with the UK you feel if someone could mobilise the disenfranchised things could really be shaken up.
For example in this election you have:
46.9% didn't vote
25.6% voted Clinton
25.5% voted Trump

 

[clint van damme]

What about the KKK endorsement of Killary?

http://www.infowars.com/kkk-grand-dragon-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president/

what's that go to do with it? Hilary wasn't elected so has no relevance to your point.

 

[chiefdave]

What about the KKK endorsement of Killary?

You do realise that he was actually a supporter of Trump whose story about endorsing Clinton and donating fell apart as soon as he was called on it?

 

[Paxman II]

I can totally understand people bashing Trump, he is an idiot. However, trying to take the moral high ground by throwing support behind Hillary is just ridiculous.

This really is Brexit #2. Contrary to what the media try and swindle, this is not the far right or the far left that are making up the votes, this is the people in the middle who have made these two decisions. Whilst you can almost class this demographic as the silent majority, these people have voted against the establishment and against the politicians who have forgotten who they are supposed to represent.

Whilst both votes came as a bit of a surprise to many, it's largely down to these people making up the votes not having the PC side of the argument and in many circumstances left scared of speaking out through being branded racist, fascist, bigoted, uneducated etc etc.

Some say this is the end of democracy, I say it is a well needed reforming. Those who are supposed to represent us have been letting the people and themselves down for a long time now, and maybe this year is the kick up the arse they need in order to start doing their jobs properly moving forward.

I agree here but Trump is definitely not an idiot. ):

 

[Sick Boy]

Think it says a lot that the Ku Klux Klan and Marine Le Pen of the French fascist National Front have both come out and congratulated Donald Trump on winning the presidency.



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Depressingly, Le Pen,Trump, Nick Griffin & Putin were all ecstatic about Brexit too.

 

[Nick]

when people mention Le Pen it makes me think of that skunk cartoon character.

 

[Ian1779]

Would have been interesting for sure. As with the UK you feel if someone could mobilise the disenfranchised things could really be shaken up.
For example in this election you have:
46.9% didn't vote
25.6% voted Clinton
25.5% voted Trump

It also highlights the quality of the voting system when the smallest of those 3 proportions is the one in the White House.

 

[chiefdave]

It also highlights the quality of the voting system when the smallest of those 3 proportions is the one in the White House.

The American system is even more bonkers than ours. Everyone is voting for who they want president, which we don't do for PM, yet the person with the most votes doesn't win!

 

[Paxman II]

I don't know how many of you have even lived and worked in America? I've spent 15 years in the States in business and know the country well. I suffered at having 'illegals' working in my kitchens on false documentation. I've raised my kids through school there and been 'an American'. You have to live there as one of them before you can truly appreciate what being American is with it's heavily protected constitution, the religious diversity, race and history. Most of you here are pretty ignorant that is clear. There were two candidates neither perfect. The Republicans won the house and senate majorities thanks to Trump.
The negative sensationalism on here regarding Trump is not the feeling over there. Both candidates are viewed with equal skepticism. Sure there is division but that is always the case. Change to the long held establishment has been the driving force to Trump's win. This guy is very bright and has played a brilliant election strategy.

 

[Nick]

Just putting this here again for a giggle:

 

[Ian1779]

The American system is even more bonkers than ours. Everyone is voting for who they want president, which we don't do for PM, yet the person with the most votes doesn't win!

Also the fact that a states votes all go to the winner even if the percentage vote is almost identical. You would think some proportional distribution would be the sensible thing.

 

[clint van damme]

I don't know how many of you have even lived and worked in America? I've spent 15 years in the States in business and know the country well. I suffered at having 'illegals' working in my kitchens on false documentation. I've raised my kids through school there and been 'an American'. You have to live there as one of them before you can truly appreciate what being American is with it's heavily protected constitution, the religious diversity, race and history. Most of you here are pretty ignorant that is clear. There were two candidates neither perfect. The Republicans won the house and senate majorities thanks to Trump.
The negative sensationalism on here regarding Trump is not the feeling over there. Both candidates are viewed with equal skepticism. Sure there is division but that is always the case. Change to the long held establishment has been the driving force to Trump's win. This guy is very bright and has played a brilliant election strategy.

You've got a way with words.