Ccfcisparks
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if he's in sheffield for a funeral on the day of the game i'd be surprised if he plays in all honesty.
if he's in sheffield for a funeral on the day of the game i'd be surprised if he plays in all honesty.Still think he’ll play
he’d be a big loss, but obviously more important things in life if he can’t be there.
Yeah maybe you’re right parksif he's in sheffield for a funeral on the day of the game i'd be surprised if he plays in all honesty.
I'd imagine we will go the first 3. Big risk changing 2 of the 3.Yeah maybe you’re right parks
dunno what you’d do with the back 3
bobby binks Kitching probably
so tempting to throw Lati in
Kitching would need to be on the left I think. Don’t really want Thomas on the wrong sideI'd imagine we will go the first 3. Big risk changing 2 of the 3.
Would be nice if we could go
Thomas Kitching Lati
but unsure if we will.
Bobby binks Kitching is changing 2 of the 3I'd imagine we will go the first 3. Big risk changing 2 of the 3.
Would be nice if we could go
Thomas Kitching Lati
but unsure if we will.
Bobby right binks central Kitching leftKitching would need to be on the left I think. Don’t really want Thomas on the wrong side
I see the Godden love-squad is out in full force againDon’t know why people get so offended when anyone suggests that maybe Godden could be dropped for one game, even if it’s just to give game time to our new strikers and/or to give us new ideas up front.
Before anyone starts accusing me of Godden-hate, I don’t dislike Godden, he’s done us proud for a while now but he’s also not some untouchable superstar that shouldn’t be dropped under any circumstances. Last season he didn’t start in that many games as we obviously had Gyokeres, clearly he’s nowhere near as vital as Gyokeres was for us so I don’t know why everyone is so concerned about dropping him this season.
So far this season Godden’s scored 3 championship goals that almost any striker could have scored, he’s not particularly quick, doesn’t press with any particular gusto and isn’t that tall or strong. People are too quick to say “well he’s scored 38% of our championship goals this season!” or “you want to drop our top goalscorer?!” but then don’t think about the additional goals that could have been scored if we’d have tried something different up front. Maybe a lone Wright or a Wright/Simms combo would have scored more and got us that extra goal in games that we drew.
I reckon that this Hull game is going to be really tough, I think we’d do well to win it tbh, so maybe changing it up this game isn’t the best thing to do with Lati, Palmer and Dasilva already potentially being out, but I think going forward (for one game at least, surely that’s not much to ask?) we should try something different up front. I’m with Shmmeee on this one, there’s way too much Simms hate and too much Godden love, yes he’s a good finisher but we need to think about other attributes on top of finishing that strikers can bring to the game.
I don't get offended when people suggest dropping our top scorer. Just bemused at the stupidity of it.
To say hes scored 3 goals anyone could have scored is taking the madness to new levels!
What does it even mean?!
I agree there's too much Simms hate, I've not said a word against him personally, but he shouldn't be started ahead of Godden on current form.
He’s been handed three on a plate two by Wright and one by Eccles. Let’s be honest. He takes up good positions. But maybe without him on the pitch our other poacher would have been there to tap them in instead but also have offered something the other 89 mins.
Robins says he’s there because he knows the system. I’m just hoping after a solid two weeks of training he’s not the only one.
If You think his goal against Watford was on plate its pointless arguing with you.
If you want a definition of on a plate look at chances missed by him and Simms against Watford.
And don't 'on a plate chances' count now?!
File next to penalties!
Not sure if you’re intentionally missing my point or if I’m explaining myself badly. Goddens strength is his positioning. I imagine that’s also the role Simms is there for. Playing them both together means you hinder one. Usually Simms because he’s newer so the team know Goddens movements. I don’t think Goddens in amazing form. I think he’s scored a couple and most have been tap ins others have provided. Which would imply losing him for another poacher wouldn’t be that detrimental.
FFS I’ll just take the average team and post that next game, save all the bed wetting.
And goals in play off games.If You think his goal against Watford was on plate its pointless arguing with you.
If you want a definition of on a plate look at chances missed by him and Simms against Watford.
And don't 'on a plate chances' count now?!
File next to penalties!
His goalscoring record is top 6.Is Godden a top 6 striker? No he isn’t.
Is he better than Simms at the moment? Probably.
Easy decision for Robins to choose him at the moment because he’s scoring. But he needs to get over his favouritism when he doesn’t because he doesn’t contribute enough.
I see the Godden love-squad is out in full force againDon’t know why people get so offended when anyone suggests that maybe Godden could be dropped for one game, even if it’s just to give game time to our new strikers and/or to give us new ideas up front.
Before anyone starts accusing me of Godden-hate, I don’t dislike Godden, he’s done us proud for a while now but he’s also not some untouchable superstar that shouldn’t be dropped under any circumstances. Last season he didn’t start in that many games as we obviously had Gyokeres, clearly he’s nowhere near as vital as Gyokeres was for us so I don’t know why everyone is so concerned about dropping him this season.
So far this season Godden’s scored 3 championship goals that almost any striker could have scored, he’s not particularly quick, doesn’t press with any particular gusto and isn’t that tall or strong. People are too quick to say “well he’s scored 38% of our championship goals this season!” or “you want to drop our top goalscorer?!” but then don’t think about the additional goals that could have been scored if we’d have tried something different up front. Maybe a lone Wright or a Wright/Simms combo would have scored more and got us that extra goal in games that we drew.
I reckon that this Hull game is going to be really tough, I think we’d do well to win it tbh, so maybe changing it up this game isn’t the best thing to do with Lati, Palmer and Dasilva already potentially being out, but I think going forward (for one game at least, surely that’s not much to ask?) we should try something different up front. I’m with Shmmeee on this one, there’s way too much Simms hate and too much Godden love, yes he’s a good finisher but we need to think about other attributes on top of finishing that strikers can bring to the game.
He’s scored 3 championship goals this season though! 3! And people go around saying he’s some kind of footballing messiah. I admit the Watford goal wasn’t that easy but by the same token I’m sure people would be slating Simms or Wright if either of them missed it, so it wasn’t exactly a difficult goal to put away. The other 2 goals Godden scored we’re basically just simple tap-ins from a couple of yards out.I don't get offended when people suggest dropping our top scorer. Just bemused at the stupidity of it.
To say hes scored 3 goals anyone could have scored is taking the madness to new levels!
What does it even mean?!
I agree there's too much Simms hate, I've not said a word against him personally, but he shouldn't be started ahead of Godden on current form.
Godden has got into good positions to get on the end of chances in every game so far, so with him in the side
1. We're creating chances
2. He's getting on the end of them
Anybody advocating dropping him on top of other missing regulars in a team that is still coming together is just a completely bizarre idea and appears miles away from Robins' thinking.
Looks like McFadzean is at a funeral on Friday in Sheffield according to his Instagram.
No ones offended mate, it's just a fucking stupid idea.I see the Godden love-squad is out in full force againDon’t know why people get so offended when anyone suggests that maybe Godden could be dropped for one game, even if it’s just to give game time to our new strikers and/or to give us new ideas up front.
Before anyone starts accusing me of Godden-hate, I don’t dislike Godden, he’s done us proud for a while now but he’s also not some untouchable superstar that shouldn’t be dropped under any circumstances. Last season he didn’t start in that many games as we obviously had Gyokeres, clearly he’s nowhere near as vital as Gyokeres was for us so I don’t know why everyone is so concerned about dropping him this season.
So far this season Godden’s scored 3 championship goals that almost any striker could have scored, he’s not particularly quick, doesn’t press with any particular gusto and isn’t that tall or strong. People are too quick to say “well he’s scored 38% of our championship goals this season!” or “you want to drop our top goalscorer?!” but then don’t think about the additional goals that could have been scored if we’d have tried something different up front. Maybe a lone Wright or a Wright/Simms combo would have scored more and got us that extra goal in games that we drew.
I reckon that this Hull game is going to be really tough, I think we’d do well to win it tbh, so maybe changing it up this game isn’t the best thing to do with Lati, Palmer and Dasilva already potentially being out, but I think going forward (for one game at least, surely that’s not much to ask?) we should try something different up front. I’m with Shmmeee on this one, there’s way too much Simms hate and too much Godden love, yes he’s a good finisher but we need to think about other attributes on top of finishing that strikers can bring to the game.
It's only 90 minutes from Sheffield to Hullif he's in sheffield for a funeral on the day of the game i'd be surprised if he plays in all honesty.
I don't agree that he's not good at pressing, his off the ball work is very good and the Watford own goal came from Godden closing his man down.But you’ve overlooked the whole point of my message that you quoted, we’re not creating enough chances, that’s the issue. If we created 100 chances a game then I’d have absolutely no issue in playing Godden whatsoever because you know that he’s going to score about 20-30% of those goals so we’d be winning something like 25-0 most games but we’re creating like 2-3 serious chances in most games, it’s only when we come across a shoddy defence like Boro or Watford that we score more than 1 goal atm.
What I was saying is that maybe Godden is a goalscorer but what he doesn’t do is add anything to the team in the way of creating chances. He doesn’t give us height or strength or amazing pressing or pace, he just taps goals in, which is not to be overlooked but atm I don’t feel that what’s we need, we need to create more chances and whether that’s starting Wright up top as a sole striker or starting Simms and Wright together, allowing Wright to pick up the ball and run at defenders, maybe use Simms as a target man or something, we just need to do something different because every week I watch our midfield lose the ball because there’s no movement up top or because the strikers aren’t giving the midfield any options, and it all piles on the pressure to our defence which means we spend a lot of time running backwards rather than forwards. I just think something new needs to be tried, even if it’s just for one game, we can put it to bed then.
I don't agree that he's not good at pressing, his off the ball work is very good and the Watford own goal came from Godden closing his man down.
We are currently creating chances and scoring goals, the bigger issue has been the defence going walkabout against Swansea and Watford.
His record over the last few seasons is nowhere near top 6.His goalscoring record is top 6.
Oh that old favouritism word. Would you prefer he didn't have any idea who his best players are and just pick them randomly?
I want my manager to have favourites as long as they are the best players.
Isn’t his goals per minutes one of the best in the league in that time? How else are you measuring record?His record over the last few seasons is nowhere near top 6.
As very frequently mentioned over the years he is often anonymous and doesn’t contribute enough. Despite that he was auto picked by Robins and not subbed. There is a cost to that favouritism. Ditto Palmer.
It isn't madness of course but it is in the current contextDont think it’s madness to advocate for at least one game of our £19m strike force together.
It isn't madness of course but it is in the current context
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How about what everyone uses goals(mediocre) and assists(dreadful)Isn’t his goals per minutes one of the best in the league in that time? How else are you measuring record?
Feel like that's harsh. Watford goal was a good strike and he busted his arse to be on the end of it.Couple of tap ins later and he’s undroppable.
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