That may be a positive perspective. I was trying to put my big boy argumentative pants on at the supporters forum but he had no intention of engaging on an arena deal with us. There were so many better answers he could have given than we know it’s important and it will be announced when it’s announcedFrom the sounds of it Doug King is trying to negotiate a share of match day income into the agreement. I imagine that is where the sticking point is
That may be a positive perspective. I was trying to put my big boy argumentative pants on at the supporters forum but he had no intention of engaging on an arena deal with us. There were so many better answers he could have given than we know it’s important and it will be announced when it’s announced
The ground's definitely the thing that stands out so far from king - doing up Ryton etc is all great, as is expanding th cub's staff , that's all excellent work. When he bought the club though, he admitted he hadn't really considered the ground in with the club, his late bid was a bit of an afterthought, and he seems remarkably relaxed about the rent deal. Now, optimistically(!) maybe that's why he's in charge and I'm not, and he's confident there's no issue. I can't help but worry he hasn't considered the difficulties before buying the club, and our recent history wrt grounds doesn't help relax me either!That may be a positive perspective. I was trying to put my big boy argumentative pants on at the supporters forum but he had no intention of engaging on an arena deal with us. There were so many better answers he could have given than we know it’s important and it will be announced when it’s announced
Didn't empty the boardroom of Bollinger before leaving?though I’d be surprised if Sisu don’t have wine shares in the new company
Didn't empty the boardroom of Bollinger before leaving?
Decent guess
Like that ideaThe ground's definitely the thing that stands out so far from king - doing up Ryton etc is all great, as is expanding th cub's staff , that's all excellent work. When he bought the club though, he admitted he hadn't really considered the ground in with the club, his late bid was a bit of an afterthought, and he seems remarkably relaxed about the rent deal. Now, optimistically(!) maybe that's why he's in charge and I'm not, and he's confident there's no issue. I can't help but worry he hasn't considered the difficulties before buying the club, and our recent history wrt grounds doesn't help relax me either!
Or, he's in league with Ashley, this is all being done to make it look legit, and Eakin will be ripping King's mask off Scooby Doo style in a week or two to reveal Ashley underneath.
Should have said that thenFrom what you say Sky Blue Pete I get the negotiations were at a sensitive stage and he didn't want to make any comment .I am normally a optimist but I think the longer this goes the more my optimism wains
“People ask why we didn’t get involved in the stadium beforehand and the reason is we hadn’t really thought it through beforehand”It’s odd. King whatever he is isn’t stupid and you’d assume this had been assessed at point of takeover - though I’d be surprised if Sisu don’t have wine shares in the new company
Could it be because they’re waiting to see whether we’ll go up this season? Presumably they’d be some kind of rent increase included for promotion to the PL already as part of negotiations.
That would make over 100% price increase per game from £15 to £31.58 I think not.Unless you charge by zones the season just being played 15 clubs offered their cheapest at less than that this season£600 season tickets if we get promoted, £400 if we don't. That's part of the reason that they are waiting, i guess?
Think it's quite possible this is the main hold up.
PL football changes everything. Massively.
If we lose a game, the ticket prices will be announced.
£600 season tickets if we get promoted, £400 if we don't. That's part of the reason that they are waiting, i guess?
In the words of our leader we know it’s important it will be announced when it’s announcedI'm sure I read about a month ago, that an announcement on this was imminent,
Does anyone know if its still imminent?
There's less need to put prices up if we're promoted than if we don't. Gate revenues become a small % of turnover. It's why Bournemouth get by on crowds of 10K and are in no rush to expand. Didn't their chairman say a few years ago they could play in front of an empty ground and it would make little difference to their finances? The TV money is mental. I'd like to think we'd keep a lid on prices if we went up.
I buy 4 season tickets, but anything over 10% increase I'm really struggling. Will probably still buy regardless, but talk of £500 is a worry.
Back to the Future
King would just see better league = more money
Bournemouth seats in the centre are £750
He needs to balance things and keep the momentum from 6 years of growth and not risk it on theory that you can rinse more money out of kids and pensioners just cause it looks good on paperYou're probably right on that. I hope he goes the other way though. Forest had season tickets starting at £385 this season, a few clubs are below £400 and around half the PL have season tickets available below £500.
He sees season tickets and ticketing revenue as the most important aspect of revenuePersonally £500 would be the point at which I'd think twice. And before anyone starts that doesn't mean I want them to be £500
If they go back to different prices for different areas it has to be enforced. No point paying extra for a 'premium' season ticket when people are wandering around and sitting where they like. Seems to be a thing unique to football
Going forward I think they need to look at maximising the revenue, look how concert tickets have changed in the last 10 years with VIP packages, some of which are over a grand for a gig that costs less than £100. Appreciate they've got the legends and club coventry memberships but I'm always put off those with the car parking restriction, it includes parking but only if you buy 4 memeberships, makes it seem like you're not getting the full package if there's not 4 of you. Obviously there's a lack of onsite parking but maybe if there's not room for everyone onsite include offsite parking for people buying 1-3 memberships
He needs to balance things and keep the momentum from 6 years of growth and not risk it on theory that you can rinse more money out of kids and pensioners just cause it looks good on paper
Yep and I’m happy with that it’s a balance and you need to listen when you have no experienceHe will associate growth with customer revenue increase. I think he and his brother (who he clearly will sound out) think the prices now seem very low when divided by 23.
Different era means different approach
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