I'm Seriously Annoyed (4 Viewers)

[letsallsingtogether]

According to you nothing can?

Suppose we should all give up and go home.

Shame we don't have one.

Protesting in Sixfields though can't work can it?

 

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[skybluetony176]

Protesting in Sixfields though can't work can it?

Depends on what you expect to achieve by doing it?

If you're nieve enough to think that Tim will take one look at the "crowd" protesting on mass and say F this it ain't working I'll call PWKH first thing in the morning and get an instant return to the ricoh for the next home game, Joy will understand. Then no it won't work.

But if you're protesting within suxfields to give the powers that be absolutely no hiding place that as a group of fans we are United in that we all want to be back home then it's 100% successful.

Isn't a show of complete unity as a fan base worth the effort of protesting inside suxfields?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Isn't a show of complete unity as a fan base worth the effort of protesting inside sixfields?

Would you join me, then? If we could get half a dozen, say, you up for that?

Maybe I need to bump edgy's banner thread again...

 

[Samo]

It's not all about revenue, it's the publicity and becoming totally "blown out".

A bit like the Berlin wall and apartheid, eventually common sense takes over. You can't beat the people in the end.

Yeah I know the analogy is OVER THE TOP, but do you get my drift?

Yes I do, and I dearly hope you are right.

 

[skybluetony176]

Would you join me, then? If we could get half a dozen, say, you up for that?

Maybe I need to bump edgy's banner thread again...

I'd join you from the hill. If a protest inside suxfields and a protest from the hill were identical at every game and we all met in the car park before and after the game with hand shakes all round that would work for me.

Identical banners, singing together, all holding up "WHEN" signs at an agreed time from opposite sides of the fence (metaphorically and literally) sounds like a good demonstration of unity in the face of adversity to me.

Demonstration could be the most effective form of protest?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Nah, join me inside. Can't do it by myself, don't particularly want to do it, but if you want a protest inside Sixfields...

 

[shmmeee]

I honestly can't understand the difficulty accepting that some people have personal morals and that they will not breach them.

 

[dongonzalos]

Protesting in Sixfields though can't work can it?

Personally I think an empty stadium apart from away fans is in my opinion the most effective thing.

However it seems I have to accept some will go no matter what.

Personally if I was going, my number one priority would be to support the team, then at every suitable opportune moment I would want to get my message across to our owners to take us home.

Temporarily until it becomes permanent.

 

[Samo]

I honestly can't understand the difficulty accepting that some people have personal morals and that they will not breach them.

Who is having difficulty with that?

 

[italiahorse]

Unfortunately if you go to support the lads you also support Sisu plan by default.
You can't do one without the other.
Not saying it's wrong or right, you need to make your own decision.
Personally my dislike of the Sisu plan to get the Ricoh far outweighs my support of the team inside Sixfields.

 

[shy_tall_knight]

The team needs supporting. Nothing, NOTHING will change the stance of both sides in this war =apathy rules accept the inevitable SISU can't be challenged so its OK to go to Sixfields


130 years of history isn't going to be flushed away if people want to continue the support = it is being flushed away lowest crowds ever breaking the links with the city / community that bears its name all in order to distress a local business ACL to pay for the mistakes of a London based hedge fund. History means nothing to them ut we can maintain the history by going to sixfields.

No more threads about those going to sixfields - let's let bygones be bygones = Grendel wants to go to Sixfields without feeling any guilt or being told he lacks principles.

To condense the message Grendel thinks Sixfields is OK so please no more threads as it upsets him as deep down he knows its wrong but lacks the moral fibre to have the courage of his convictions.

 

[turlykerd]

Nice to meet you

 

[Delboycov]

I personally could never enter Sixfields even to protest.....it's just the way I feel and is a matter for me and my conscience. I do not understand how any CCFC fan could but I respect those who do as it is their personal choice. I strongly believe the vast majority feel the same, a view supported by the thousands who choose not to go... so surely the only true united protest would be if the minority who choose to attend 'home' games stay away even for 45 minutes like the rest of us..It wouldn't kill them would it?!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

In which case it's you and me who won't protest in Sixfields.

Therefore, pretty pointless to focus on some other people who won't protest in Sixfields.

Instead of focussing on absence, it would be better to look for the opportunities for presence.

 

[The Gentleman]

The sanctimonious drivel spoken on here is wearing me down.

Lets get a few things straight;

Sixfields is a poor ground compared to the Ricoh.

The atmosphere is terrible. It's at best a reserve game when people used to go to reserve games.

All fans who go do not support sisu or "the plan" (whatever that is) just the team over the 90 minutes they are there.

The game being played out will be played our regardless of attendees. The fact players are being signed at least indicates the club has a 2 year future. I lament the day we ever moved into the infernal arena and sold the one asset we had but we must have 2 years. I hope they are in coventry and not sixfields but either way I'm going to as many games as I can.

The team needs supporting. Nothing, NOTHING will change the stance of both sides in this war.

If people go and want to protest then do so but apathy and casual ambivalence is no longer an acceptable argument as isn't nopm.

130 years of history isn't going to be flushed away if people want to continue the support.

No more threads about those going to sixfields - let's let bygones be bygones.

How about taking your own advice, no more threads about Sixfields. We all know the place is a shithole so what is the point of yet another thread about Sixfields.

Funny thing is if this was a thread from someone who's opinion was different to yours and saying people shouldn't go then you and a few others would be jumping all over saying yet another boring thread about Sixfields.

Nice to know you're seriously annoyed though, cheers.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The sanctimonious drivel spoken on here is wearing me down.

Lets get a few things straight;

Sixfields is a poor ground compared to the Ricoh.

The atmosphere is terrible. It's at best a reserve game when people used to go to reserve games.

All fans who go do not support sisu or "the plan" (whatever that is) just the team over the 90 minutes they are there.

The game being played out will be played our regardless of attendees. The fact players are being signed at least indicates the club has a 2 year future. I lament the day we ever moved into the infernal arena and sold the one asset we had but we must have 2 years. I hope they are in coventry and not sixfields but either way I'm going to as many games as I can.

The team needs supporting. Nothing, NOTHING will change the stance of both sides in this war.

If people go and want to protest then do so but apathy and casual ambivalence is no longer an acceptable argument as isn't nopm.

130 years of history isn't going to be flushed away if people want to continue the support.

No more threads about those going to sixfields - let's let bygones be bygones.

One side's stance is 'go bust please' and the others is 'no thanks'. If Joy picked up the phone tomorrow, called up ACL and said 'My gamble has failed, let's get the club back', do you really think it would fall on deaf ears? Only one side has to change their stance and it's the ones who took the club away in the first place.

 

[Delboycov]

In which case it's you and me who won't protest in Sixfields.

Therefore, pretty pointless to focus on some other people who won't protest in Sixfields.

Instead of focussing on absence, it would be better to look for the opportunities for presence.

I agree with you to a degree although I just can't fathom why if those that do attend Sixfields feel just as strongly about what has happened to our club they couldn't boycott at least 1 half of a game. Those that don't go cite morals, conscience, a generation missing out on supporting a team in their home city, having the heart ripped out of a city and making a stand....Those that go just seem to say they're supporting the lads. Who would be making the bigger sacrafice? It's 45 minutes!

 

[Chez78]

The sanctimonious drivel spoken on here is wearing me down.

Lets get a few things straight;

Sixfields is a poor ground compared to the Ricoh.

The atmosphere is terrible. It's at best a reserve game when people used to go to reserve games.

All fans who go do not support sisu or "the plan" (whatever that is) just the team over the 90 minutes they are there.

The game being played out will be played our regardless of attendees. The fact players are being signed at least indicates the club has a 2 year future. I lament the day we ever moved into the infernal arena and sold the one asset we had but we must have 2 years. I hope they are in coventry and not sixfields but either way I'm going to as many games as I can.

The team needs supporting. Nothing, NOTHING will change the stance of both sides in this war.

If people go and want to protest then do so but apathy and casual ambivalence is no longer an acceptable argument as isn't nopm.

130 years of history isn't going to be flushed away if people want to continue the support.

No more threads about those going to sixfields - let's let bygones be bygones.

If I'm honest I agree with 90% of that and If people want to attend then so be it! I think it's torch that stated he goes so his lad can carry on supporting his team and that I can't argue with.

My disagreement is with the adults that don't take kids and just want to "support the lads", none of us want to be missing our team playing at home but the majority of fans have chose to stand United and tell our owners what they are doing is wrong by not attending. Every fan that goes in that place is giving them something to cling on to. As fans we should stand together it's what gives us strength and drives us forward when we are one nil down etc and as much as myself and those that attend don't like it the majority have chose to boycott and if we had all stuck together for the beginning it would have forced their hand.

As for giving fans grief for attending I'd like to think I wouldn't but I do know I feel let down by the ones that do and I don't think that would change even when we return home, it's what I hate SISU most for the rest of the shit I'm sure could be forgotten but the divide they have caused and continue to try and harvest I will never forgive them for.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I agree with you to a degree although I just can't fathom why if those that do attend Sixfields feel just as strongly about what has happened to our club they couldn't boycott at least 1 half of a game. Those that don't go cite morals, conscience, a generation missing out on supporting a team in their home city, having the heart ripped out of a city and making a stand....Those that go just seem to say they're supporting the lads. Who would be making the bigger sacrafice? It's 45 minutes!

You could throw that back and say it's just be 45 minutes for you too to go in and then walk out.

Far more effective if more did it.

Just 45 minutes, that's all. Not much of a sacrifice...

 

[duffer]

I think the premise here that deserves challenge, is that the Sixfields boycott isn't having some effect financially and also putting pressure on the owners to return to Coventry.

Just because someone on here says that SISU are willing to continue to throw money at it doesn't make it true. It would be a remarkable business that was willing to continue to throw good money after bad, year-on-year.

I can understand if people really feel that they have to go and watch the team, and I don't want to hammer anyone for it. But to try to justify it by saying that it doesn't make any difference doesn't seem quite right to me, sorry. Go to Sixfields by all means, if you must, but accept that by doing so you are (whether you like it or not) offering some encouragement to our owner's current strategy.

In a related concept, talk of a protest inside Sixfields seems similarly misguided to me. It's just putting money in SISU's pockets, and for what? They know that the majority of fans don't want to be there. I'm sure they'd love 6,000 extra fans to turn up and pay twenty quid just to boo Fisher - what exactly would it prove?

 

[Delboycov]

You could throw that back and say it's just be 45 minutes for you too to go in and then walk out.

Far more effective if more did it.

Just 45 minutes, that's all. Not much of a sacrifice...

Not really NW because those that don't attend don't because of their principles and their conscience....they believe something is so fundamentally wrong that they feel they have to make a stand...rightly or wrongly. Maybe those that go do the same but I can't see it myself....seems to just be about supporting the lads.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Not really NW because those that don't attend don't because of their principles and their conscience....they believe something is so fundamentally wrong that they feel they have to make a stand...rightly or wrongly. Maybe those that go do the same but I can't see it myself....seems to just be about supporting the lads.

But you'd be making a stand by entering and leaving.

You'd also be demonstrating that you weren't setting yourself in opposition to other fans.

And you'd be more likely to get people to go along with you if you agreed to meet them halfway.

 

[turlykerd]

I think the premise here that deserves challenge, is that the Sixfields boycott isn't having some effect financially and also putting pressure on the owners to return to Coventry.

Just because someone on here says that SISU are willing to continue to throw money at it doesn't make it true. It would be a remarkable business that was willing to continue to throw good money after bad, year-on-year.

I can understand if people really feel that they have to go and watch the team, and I don't want to hammer anyone for it. But to try to justify it by saying that it doesn't make any difference doesn't seem quite right to me, sorry. Go to Sixfields by all means, if you must, but accept that by doing so you are (whether you like it or not) offering some encouragement to our owner's current strategy.

In a related concept, talk of a protest inside Sixfields seems similarly misguided to me. It's just putting money in SISU's pockets, and for what? They know that the majority of fans don't want to be there. I'm sure they'd love 6,000 extra fans to turn up and pay twenty quid just to boo Fisher - what exactly would it prove?

Holy shit what a business model...

I would happily stand for 90 minutes and have 6000 people rant at me for twenty quid a pop !!!

 

[The Gentleman]

You could throw that back and say it's just be 45 minutes for you too to go in and then walk out.

Far more effective if more did it.

Just 45 minutes, that's all. Not much of a sacrifice...

Not far enough in my opinion. If you're asking people to go somewhere they swore not to go then something would have to happen inside by ALL of the CCFC fans inside. What that is is upto the people who go but just going for 45 minutes won't mean jack shit. When Cov were playing shit (hard to think I know ) loads left at half time to go to the pub so no one will give a shit if people start leaving at half time. Sisu certainly won't give a shit because they will just be counting the extra money and the FL won't care.

Some kind of big protest in the ground will make everyone take notice.

 

[Astute]

Protesting in Sixfields though can't work can it?

Depends what you are after. It could help fan unity. We all have our own views. And a lot that won't go just see the ones that do go as backing SISU.

Over the years we have protested many times. Normally about a manager being shit. And now we have had our club taken from our city and nothing happens. It just doesn't seem right to many. Who would have thought at the start of the season that those that go would be so passive? No passion at all. By the sounds of it those that say they go to get behind and support the lads don't. Otherwise there would be an atmosphere.

It just doesn't add up.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Holy shit what a business model...

I would happily stand for 90 minutes and have 6000 people rant at me for twenty quid a pop !!!

Fancy being a ref then?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Not far enough in my opinion. If you're asking people to go somewhere they swore not to go then something would have to happen inside by ALL of the CCFC fans inside. What that is is upto the people who go but just going for 45 minutes won't mean jack shit. When Cov were playing shit (hard to think I know ) loads left at half time to go to the pub so no one will give a shit if people start leaving at half time. Sisu certainly won't give a shit because they will just be counting the extra money and the FL won't care.

Some kind of big protest in the ground will make everyone take notice.

I tend to agree, but I'm trying to hammer home the point till I fall asleep that we have control over doing such a thing.

Don't want to? Fine. But then anybody who isn't doing such a protest is the majority rather than minority, we all share that in common... whatever else they choose to do for their leisure time.

 

[The Gentleman]

I tend to agree, but I'm trying to hammer home the point till I fall asleep that we have control over doing such a thing.

Don't want to? Fine. But then anybody who isn't doing such a protest is the majority rather than minority, we all share that in common... whatever else they choose to do for their leisure time.

Question is, how far are you willing to go as a Cov fan? You can sit there singing "Sisu Out" but it is where you sing "Sisu Out" what will make people take notice.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Question is, how far are you willing to go as a Cov fan? You can sit there singing "Sisu Out" but it is where you sing "Sisu Out" what will make people take notice.

10,000 of us turning in London on the opening day of the season would do it

10,000 of us turning up to an England friendly that otherwise wouldn't sell out would do it?

Who has the most empty top flight ground? Or championship?

I still reckon a bunch of us going on tour to other clubs would spread the message nicely... large scale attendance = championship and above, low scale sees us going league 2.

But hey, I'm in the minority with those thoughts

And then you link it back to Sixfields, you turn up there en masse and cause disruption not by trying to cause it, but just by it being patently unsuited to cope with large numbers.

It's a naive thought itself but I like it!

 

[Hobo]

Question.

Would you help with a protest in Northampton? I would if one were organised I could get behind (and yes, I suppose I could organise it myself).

But the sit back and let other people organise things is something we're all guilty of really, isn't it. letsallsingtogether may be as annoying as fuck with a whistle, but he does have a point that many of us have sat back.

That applies to Sixfields too. Not sure we can complain about no protests in there unless we're prepared to do it ourselves.

Well so far I have signed the petitions, written several times to the FL, written to several newspapers and encouraged them to look at our situation. The Guardian has done this (I am not taking credit for that as I know other fans have written in, but I am sure the collective effort helped).

I have a lot of work commitments on Saturdays so not always free. I would be willing to travel to Northampton to protest but wouldn't go in. Any protest would have to be peaceful and in the confines of the law. I would be happy to protest/publicise our plight on the road at away games.

PM me your ideas. All this might have no effect at all over the situation, but at least people could say we have tried and voiced an opinion.

In the words of Joe Strummer "The future is unwritten."

 

[skybluetony176]

Nah, join me inside. Can't do it by myself, don't particularly want to do it, but if you want a protest inside Sixfields...

Sorry mate. It's a personal decision but I'll never step foot in the place for a "home" game.

Perhaps it would be worth talking to andreasb as he voiced an interest in doing something last season or maybe torch as he tried something last season.

Protesting in suxfields was definitely a taboo subject last season with suxfielders and the mere suggestion that they could be doing something inside only got them jumping down your neck.

Your a sensible chap and possible the right person to mobilise a protest inside. I'm sure it just needs someone to get the ball rolling.

 

[fernandopartridge]

fact is supporting the team is one thing , but in 5 years time ,not one of those players will be here, not the manager, and I doubt very much if any of the coaches will be here only the longest suffering fans in English football will remain. no one can justify going to northampton.

The same reasoning could be used for not going full stop

 

[Mr Creosote]

So, does that mean you are no longer a SISU lover? and because of the JR humiliation realise you got it all very so wrong?
That's why its just about the football now for you as a distraction to your many previous rants about ACL & CCC!!!
Poor attempt, very transparent.....

The sanctimonious drivel spoken on here is wearing me down.

Lets get a few things straight;

Sixfields is a poor ground compared to the Ricoh.

The atmosphere is terrible. It's at best a reserve game when people used to go to reserve games.

All fans who go do not support sisu or "the plan" (whatever that is) just the team over the 90 minutes they are there.

The game being played out will be played our regardless of attendees. The fact players are being signed at least indicates the club has a 2 year future. I lament the day we ever moved into the infernal arena and sold the one asset we had but we must have 2 years. I hope they are in coventry and not sixfields but either way I'm going to as many games as I can.

The team needs supporting. Nothing, NOTHING will change the stance of both sides in this war.

If people go and want to protest then do so but apathy and casual ambivalence is no longer an acceptable argument as isn't nopm.

130 years of history isn't going to be flushed away if people want to continue the support.

No more threads about those going to sixfields - let's let bygones be bygones.

 

[TheOldFive]

The sanctimonious drivel spoken on here is wearing me down.

Lets get a few things straight;

Sixfields is a poor ground compared to the Ricoh.

The atmosphere is terrible. It's at best a reserve game when people used to go to reserve games.

All fans who go do not support sisu or "the plan" (whatever that is) just the team over the 90 minutes they are there.

The game being played out will be played our regardless of attendees. The fact players are being signed at least indicates the club has a 2 year future. I lament the day we ever moved into the infernal arena and sold the one asset we had but we must have 2 years. I hope they are in coventry and not sixfields but either way I'm going to as many games as I can.

The team needs supporting. Nothing, NOTHING will change the stance of both sides in this war.

If people go and want to protest then do so but apathy and casual ambivalence is no longer an acceptable argument as isn't nopm.

130 years of history isn't going to be flushed away if people want to continue the support.

No more threads about those going to sixfields - let's let bygones be bygones.

I agree but for the point about the sanctimonious drivel wearing me down. I don't mind it at all, in the right doses it can be quite amusing. I don't mean that to be offensive to anyone, I just wanted to highlight that there is a comical aspect to this whole situation that many are missing out on by stewing in their misery. If this were happening to Villa or Leicester we would be pissing our sides - surely we can all cheer up a bit and see the funny side for a change?

 

[spider_ricoh]

I won't be setting foot in Sixfields - to do so would be an endorsement of SISU and their policy, which has needlessly and unilaterally brought the club where it is today.