The biggest damage sisu have done and can do further is divide fans. You, by insinuating people believe they can do no wrong if they don't agree precisely with you on all issues, are a useful idiot doing their work.And the one connection in most of the above questions...... CCFC's beloved owners...Sisu, who for some can do no wrong.
70%-30%or 80%-20%and It's a deal! B-)Because they would also own 50%, SISU could only sell their 50% for the
Market value at the time of sale.
Didn't realise I was struggling.So we should feel sorry for them?
FFS, they'd never been in the top flight until 07, he wanted to change there name but couldn't.
Whatever way you look at it, the last 10 years are the most successful in their (110 est) years
History, it's almost the polar opposite of our last decade, what is it you're struggling with.
My head hurts, I give in, god help us.:wtf:Didn't realise I was struggling.
I think it is you that is struggling. Probably 80% of other clubs bemoan their own plight. Some, like Hull, have genuine bad issues to contend with - so yes you should feel for them. Especially if you expect their sympathy for our plight.
...onwards & upwards PUSB
Nothing concrete, but would appear something happening out of sight, here's hopingJust checking in....so no update ?
Yep would agree with most of that, except the not hiring of a manager, I would imagineBefore going through a divestment, the owners of a company generally (in my limited experience) stop hiring, cut as many costs as possible while continuing to trade, allow liabilities to build, and completely withdraw all capital investment. Management time is also withdrawn as much as possible to focus on other priorities.
The fact we haven't replaced our MD or Manager...
I am hopeful but trying not to be so I won't be disappointed if it doesn't happen (as any Cov fan will completely understand!)
Also, they've been cutting costs for 4-5 years
As would I haveAlso, they've been cutting costs for 4-5 years
Because they would also own 50%, SISU could only sell their 50% for the
Market value at the time of sale.
Who decides market value Bry?
Who decides market value Bry?
I would imagine whoever was appointed to conduct the valuation,or put another way, what's 50% of fuck all
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this was rumour generated (not by Malaka but the owners/Fisher!) to divert attention away from what is likely to be an awful December and January. The persistance with Venus and inevitable January player sale(s) clouded by false hope of investment. Would love to be wrong of course but just can''t see where any genuine investment would come from (or why) when SISU are still there. It would have to be a takeover or nothing for me so my scepticism is high!
But they haven't directly raised anyone's hopes and they're not exactly known for their long term thinking. Couple of million for Stevenson in January should go a long way to covering most of this seasons deficit generated by further dwindling attendances. Employ a new manager just in time to save us from relegation and then give him a longer contract while hastily saving the academy status just in time for new season ticket sales. Sell Willis in the summer for a couple of hundred k to boost the budget and focus on playing Harries as much as possible in preparation for his January sale. And the cycle continues another year closer to JT conclusions.I don't get why they would do that, as raising everyone's hopes and then being let down again leads to a mighty fall, and couple this with a poor January in the transfer market and we could be down to near Northampton crowds come the spring.
What would be the benefit of that, as it would lead to further cutting of costs, and probable relegation, meaning what is left to sell is even less than the nothing its worth now.
amenThe biggest damage sisu have done and can do further is divide fans. You, by insinuating people believe they can do no wrong if they don't agree precisely with you on all issues, are a useful idiot doing their work.
Well there's me. I absolutely bloody love them!!I've not seen a single (real) person on here who has ever made out that Sisu can do no wrong or even is in particular favour of them.
Well there's me. I absolutely bloody love them!!
I even have the T-shirt. And I married Joy.
in reality you go 50/50 with a casting votejust a comment really why would anyone go 50:50 - no one has control and that is not a good place to be if there is a dispute
Well there's me. I absolutely bloody love them!!
I even have the T-shirt. And I married Joy.
I've not seen a single (real) person on here who has ever made out that Sisu can do no wrong or even is in particular favour of them.
No I agree with you.
You have a mixture of people
Some who blame SISU for everything.
Some who hold SISU as the biggest instigator of our current problems and talk mostly about them.
Some who feel each party is just as culpable as each other.
Then some who mostly talk about other parties such as CET, AHC, Council, FL. Past owners. Managers. Wasps. Trust. Supporters.
(Then when someone suggests that they never mention SISU. They will Say they hold SISU just as accountable) Then they will go back to just pointing out the issues with the other parties.
I would be very surprised if you find anyone in here truely supportive of SISU, maybe RFC ?
Yes because everyone knows SISU are dog shit owners already (it's not new news), but when many of the more immediate topical issues are the fault of other parties involved then they are going to get talked about more aren't they?Then some who mostly talk about other parties such as CET, AHC, Council, FL. Past owners. Managers. Wasps. Trust. Supporters.
(Then when someone suggests that they never mention SISU. They will Say they hold SISU just as accountable) Then they will go back to just pointing out the issues with the other parties.
really???I've not seen a single (real) person on here who has ever made out that Sisu can do no wrong or even is in particular favour of them.
Yep. As don mentions above there's a sliding scale from people who give them credit for some things to people who blame Sisu when their car won't start, but there's nobody I've seen here who has absolved them of all blame. The only user that comes close is RFC who isn't a real person.really???
Always thought u were strangeWell there's me. I absolutely bloody love them!!
I even have the T-shirt. And I married Joy.
Don't see why it would have to be 50/50.
Any kind of deal could be done, even giving up 100% of the club and accepting certain terms on the debt.
Could be a Richardson style "invest in players" deal. Could be those Skyscanner blokes are really Cov fans and are about to gift us eleventy billion.
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