Investment rumour. (20 Viewers)

[Otis]

I'm sure they do, however it still isn't as many as a ground in the centre of town. And anyway wherever a new ground is someone will always moan that's too far, etc etc.

Baginton would be pretty ideal I think for many people, not everyone, but that's the way of the world.

Somewhere in the town would obviously be perfect, but that's never going to happen.

I wouldn't be against Baginton personally, but it is not surrounded by housing in the close proximity is it, whereas, the Ricoh very much is. In one direction north (towards Nuneaton), next to nothing, but to the east and west and south, lots of housing and large chunk of the population.

Round by Baginton there is next to nothing in 3 directions.

 

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[Noggin]

For a rumour, it's generated a lot of comments

At least 80% of the thread has had nothing to do with the rumour, after a few pages it quickly became the same old discussion (and I use that word lightly)

 

[Otis]

At least 80% of the thread has had nothing to do with the rumour, after a few pages it quickly became the same old discussion (and I use that word lightly)

Something akin to ... 'I've heard the new ground location might be at Baginton ...... yeah, fook Wasps?'

 

[shy_tall_knight]

Bollocks. The Ricoh is hardly a "walk up" venue either, is it?

Many fans park in the pubs and clubs off the Foleshill road and then walk to the Ricoh there are no pubs or clubs near to siskin drive. The pub and the walk to the ground is part of the matchday experience. Sitting in cars in traffic jams trying to get into the restricted access that is Siskin Drive isn't the same. Love to move, but siskin drive would further dilute the fan base

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

The Ricoh is very handy for me I can leave my house at 2.20pm get parked and have a sandwich and get in the ground for 2.45pm, no paying for parking either. But if I thought it was for the good of the club I would be ok to move and leave behind all the yellow and black crap.

 

[hill83]

Bollocks. The Ricoh is hardly a "walk up" venue either, is it?

More of a taxi to the ROAB, quick jog to the Wheatsheaf and a stumble up to the Ricoh.
But yes, it is a 'walk up' I'd say.

 

[chiefdave]

To build a stadium so far away from from the population preventing a walk to the ground is commercial suicide.

Why would it be a bigger issue for us than it has been for Brighton for example? Everyone would love a stadium in the city centre but it isn't going to happen. We have to look to make the best of the options we have open to us.

 

[italiahorse]

Why would it be a bigger issue for us than it has been for Brighton for example? Everyone would love a stadium in the city centre but it isn't going to happen. We have to look to make the best of the options we have open to us.

Once we know where it is we can give Sisu a reasonable idea whether we will be going or not.

 

[Samo]

Why would it be a bigger issue for us than it has been for Brighton for example? Everyone would love a stadium in the city centre but it isn't going to happen. We have to look to make the best of the options we have open to us.

Yep, those days are gone and this is not such a big issue. Those who enjoy a few pints beforehand will simply find other arrangements like drinking in a favorite boozer close to home then sharing a cab to the ground.

 

[italiahorse]

Yep, those days are gone and this is not such a big issue. Those who enjoy a few pints beforehand will simply find other arrangements like drinking in a favorite boozer close to home then sharing a cab to the ground.

That though is a minority of fans. Most travel by cars or walk up rather than public transport.

 

[Grendel]

Yep, very fair post.

A lot of the criticism of the Ricoh has been about it's location and lack of pubs surrounding the place and it being rather cold and soulless just stuck out with not a lot surrounding it apart from the Arena Park. This location mooted would be much, much worse from that perspective. Even more remote than the Ricoh and therefore probably even more cold and soulless.

Such a shame the Butts surrounding area was developed, because that would have been ideal from the perspective of being in the heart of the community.

How do Derby fans ever get to Pride Park do you think?

 

[Grendel]

Many fans park in the pubs and clubs off the Foleshill road and then walk to the Ricoh there are no pubs or clubs near to siskin drive. The pub and the walk to the ground is part of the matchday experience. Sitting in cars in traffic jams trying to get into the restricted access that is Siskin Drive isn't the same. Love to move, but siskin drive would further dilute the fan base

Derby and Middlesborough clearly get no fans to their games.

 

[ccfc92]

Derby and Middlesborough clearly get no fans to their games.

Isn't Derby's ground 1.5 miles from the city centre?

 

[italiahorse]

Isn't Derby's ground 1.5 miles from the city centre?

.. and Middlesbrough's ?

 

[ccfc92]

.. and Middlesbrough's ?

1.6 in a car, 0.9 walking.

I don't see what point Grendel's trying to make?

 

[italiahorse]

1.6 in a car, 0.9 walking.

I don't see what point Grendel's trying to make?

We will have to wait for the clarification or the edit and denial !!

 

[Grendel]

We will have to wait for the clarification or the edit and denial !!

What % of Derby fans live in the town according to a fan survey conducted a couple of years ago?

 

[skybluetony176]

Isn't Derby's ground 1.5 miles from the city centre?

It's about a ten minute walk from the train station IIRC.

 

[ccfc92]

What % of Derby fans live in the town according to a fan survey conducted a couple of years ago?

How many?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

But one of the biggest problems people have with the Ricoh is that it is slightly too detached from the city – and this would be far worse in my opinion.

Yup, don't disagree with you. tbh this is the problem al football clubs fac nowadays, mind, when they give up their central sites.

That said... HR wasn't 'Coventry' when it was built, so maybe once Arena 2020 is finished it might end up seeming more central than now:thinking about:

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Such a shame the Butts surrounding area was developed, because that would have been ideal from the perspective of being in the heart of the community.

Where's likely to fall into disuse in the nearish future? GEC Stoke social club still has some of its land, but am guessing the old factory's been built over in entirity? Cov & North Warwicks ground is hemmed in, and Humber Road would have been ideal before a load of housing appeared.

Now that's my sum total of knowledge, but must be similar sites around

 

[SkyBlueCRJ]

Rumours such as these always arise before the summer transfer market begins. To put it into perspective I read earlier that Carlisle were linked with a Billionaire investor. Even we've got more of a chance than attracting investors than them. So without sounding too pessimistic it's just as unlikely as the rumour on this thread. As hopeful as I am I've given up looking into investment rumours because more often than not they're false and annoyingly repetitive. Besides no one with a scrap of business sense are going to invest into CCFC. It's virtually impossible for an investor to get a return at this point in time if they took the decision to pump money into the club considering we don't get any revenue from the Ricoh. Unless we get guarantees on a stadium site that has been long overdue and construction plans put in place no investors are going to come in. Not unless they enjoy draining their bank account without a return

 

[Samo]

That though is a minority of fans. Most travel by cars or walk up rather than public transport.

The fact that most travel by care assists my argument. I am simply stating that the others will find ways to get there as they have done at other out of town grounds.

 

[shy_tall_knight]

Derby and Middlesborough clearly get no fans to their games.

They do after they've had a pint at the many local pubs they can walk to the ground. I think people need to drive around siskin drive or even attempt to walk there from Whitley or Willenhall, its a logistical nightmare

 

[Otis]

I'm not sure how major an issue it will be, but when I walk it costs me nowt.

Fine saying get buses and drive, but some on really tight budgets, this could be quite a factor.

Another issue could possibly less walk-up because it is a greater distance, i.e., at the moment I could decide to go at 7.10 p.m. and still easily get to the Ricoh in time. If a new stadium meant only car or bus as a option to the vast majority, a lot of people would have to make a decision to go much earlier in the proceedings.

Not trying to nitpick, just looking at possible issues dependent upon location. Wouldn't effect the die-hards at all, but we all know, we now only have about 7 or 8 thousand of them.

Best scenario is for the Wasps project to fail miserably and for CCFC to reclaim the Ricoh as their own (accepting of course that it was never officially ours in the first place, but it was built for us and of course has the sky blue seating and the JH statue outside to boot).

That's the best scenario, that of the club taking the Ricoh.

 

[Samo]

I'm not sure how major an issue it will be, but when I walk it costs me nowt.

Fine saying get buses and drive, but some on really tight budgets, this could be quite a factor.

Another issue could possibly less walk-up because it is a greater distance, i.e., at the moment I could decide to go at 7.10 p.m. and still easily get to the Ricoh in time. If a new stadium meant only car or bus as a option to the vast majority, a lot of people would have to make a decision to go much earlier in the proceedings.

Not trying to nitpick, just looking at possible issues dependent upon location. Wouldn't effect the die-hards at all, but we all know, we now only have about 7 or 8 thousand of them.

Best scenario is for the Wasps project to fail miserably and for CCFC to reclaim the Ricoh as their own (accepting of course that it was never officially ours in the first place, but it was built for us and of course has the sky blue seating and the JH statue outside to boot).

Yup, doesn't look likely though.

 

[ccfc92]

Yup, doesn't look likely though.

Depending on court proceedings I guess.

 

[Otis]

Depending on court proceedings I guess.

That's one court case we all want Sisu to win isn't it?

 

[ccfc92]

That's one court case we all want Sisu to win isn't it?

Yes, I suppose. But I don't see them winning it to be honest.

The best scenario, is SISU/CCFC win the JR against Wasps, ownership changes over to CCFC, with Wasps as a tenant.

I've also won the lottery twice today, scored 10 goals, and inherited 2 Lamborghinis.

 

[Otis]

Yes, I suppose. But I don't see them winning it to be honest.

The best scenario, is SISU/CCFC win the JR against Wasps, ownership changes over to CCFC, with Wasps as a tenant.

I've also won the lottery twice today, scored 10 goals, and inherited 2 Lamborghinis.

Yep, and then we can charge them an extortionate rent and force them out!!

 

[ccfc92]

Yep, and then we can charge them an extortionate rent and force them out!!

I didn't realise this was the case, just yet?

Edit: I suppose ACL gave us the current rent deal, not Wasps.

Just got to wait and see how it all pans out, I guess

 

[Otis]

I didn't realise this was the case, just yet?

It's not, but I just want Wasps out.

 

[ccfc92]

It's not, but I just want Wasps out.

SISU lover

 

[shy_tall_knight]

WASPs are unlikely to fail in the next 5 years bons issue plus stadium naming rights to come, getting into the rugby european cup is a lot easier than foot's champion league. Hope they fail won't support them but aint going to happen.

 

[The Reverend Skyblue]

I have got to admit I was totally against us building a new ground and even said id never set foot in it, bit since the council/Wasps debacle and the recent revelation that they had been talking to each other for the last two years, I am very pro us building a stadium.
Yes we all know SISU royally f**ked up getting it before they came along so they take a huge part of the blame for where we are but its the only future we have in my eyes, and it being in or near Baginton is totally fine with me