Israel - Palestinian Conflict (2 Viewers)

[Evo1883]

Flabbergasted by the hypocrisy , what a fucking twat .

 

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[MalcSB]

I wonder why the oil producing US of A is calling for Israel to strike Iranian oil producing facilities.

Thank fuck we have a UK oil industry. For now.

 

[Skybluekyle]

Flabbergasted by the hypocrisy , what a fucking twat .

Look at the state of the politics of the countries listed, to be fair

 

[Evo1883]

Look at the state of the politics of the countries listed, to be fair

But they are sovereign countries

 

[MalcSB]

Look at the state of the politics of the countries listed, to be fair

They would probably say the same about us.

 

[Skybluekyle]

But they are sovereign countries

With serious political problems... the region is fucked, Israel or no Israel.

 

[Skybluekyle]

With serious political problems... the region is fucked, Israel or no Israel.

And I say that knowing one could argue it could be different without Israel, but that is just a hypothetical that is a poor argument

 

[Evo1883]

With serious political problems... the region is fucked, Israel or no Israel.

Sure but it's not up to the USA to decide how they govern and live

Alot of people view what Israel are doing as genocidal in gaza ?

 

[Skybluekyle]

They would probably say the same about us.

Our politics is not great... but it's as stable as there is in a free, relatively secular country.

 

[Skybluekyle]

Sure but it's not up to the USA to decide how they govern and live

Alot of people view what Israel are doing as genocidal in gaza ?

The US, and many western nations, including our own, are party to the issue, but the region has its own issues.

Sunni vs Shia, Iran vs Saudi, Israel vs Iran... I just want a just peace. I have no idea how anyone can take sides, they're all as bad as each other.

 

[Evo1883]

The US, and many western nations, including our own, are party to the issue, but the region has its own issues.

Sunni vs Shia, Iran vs Saudi, Israel vs Iran... I just want a just peace. I have no idea how anyone can take sides, they're all as bad as each other.

I don't think any country in the middle east would get away with doing what Israel are doing to gaza to any other country .

 

[Skybluekyle]

I don't think any country in the middle east would get away with doing what Israel are doing to gaza to any other country .

I am not going to say anymore than what I have said as clearly you have your views, and I have mine, and mine is that all sides are cunts and no moral equivalence can be given on either side.

 

[wingy]

I am not going to say anymore than what I have said as clearly you have your views, and I have mine, and mine is that all sides are cunts and no moral equivalence can be given on either side.

Then Iran are right to threaten?

 

[Skybluekyle]

Then Iran are right to threaten?

Ahhh, I want to decline to comment, as I am called a "Zionist-sympathiser" by one cohort of people and a "Terrorist-sympathiser" by another, but no. Fuck Iran, fuck Israel... I'll just say that.

 

[Skybluekyle]

I'll just say this, further to my previous comment, and the last one I will have. As I am sure we all are, I am a proud Coventrian, I love peace and reconciliation, our city is literally based on that premise, and I am a fierce pacifist.

If you want Israel to stop bombing Gaza, Yemen, Lebanon and Iran, I agree. If you want Iran to stop bombing Israel, I agree with you. I just hope people get round a table!

 

[tisza]

I don't think any country in the middle east would get away with doing what Israel are doing to gaza to any other country .

Syria?

 

[Evo1883]

Syria?

Syria was bombed

 

[MalcSB]

I'll just say this, further to my previous comment, and the last one I will have. As I am sure we all are, I am a proud Coventrian, I love peace and reconciliation, our city is literally based on that premise, and I am a fierce pacifist.

If you want Israel to stop bombing Gaza, Yemen, Lebanon and Iran, I agree. If you want Iran to stop bombing Israel, I agree with you. I just hope people get round a table!

You’re wrong, Coventry is the City of Rugby.

 

[tisza]

Syria was bombed

Syrian govt (with Russian and Iranian support) have bombed and killed more of its own civilians than have died in Gaza (neither excusable). Syrian govt has also used chemical weapons on its own civilians.

 

[napolimp]

I am not going to say anymore than what I have said as clearly you have your views, and I have mine, and mine is that all sides are cunts and no moral equivalence can be given on either side.

You can equate blame to all parties, and all sides have been responsible for escalating conflict and committing atrocities. But there's only one party who (as has been widely acknowledged) have killed tens of thousands of civilians. I would argue there is a moral difference between murdering tens of thousands of civilians, and murdering one thousand - even though both are morally abhorrent.

 

[Evo1883]

Syrian govt (with Russian and Iranian support) have bombed and killed more of its own civilians than have died in Gaza (neither excusable). Syrian govt has also used chemical weapons on its own civilians.

But there has been action against syria ? That's my point

 

[tisza]

But there has been action against syria ? That's my point

Not Syria per se but on Iranian, Hezbollah and other Palestinian groups that launch attacks on Israel from Syrian territory - even pre-Gaza.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Watch: Jeremy Bowen presses Hamas deputy leader on 7 October attacks

One of the most senior leaders of Hamas - a group designated a terrorist organisation by the UK and others - speaks to the BBC's Jeremy Bowen.

www.bbc.co.uk

Chilling

 

[Houchens Head]

Fuck Israel.

 

[wingy]

Given that we're following this upset with action on their behalf I think we're endangering world peace and should not be having anything to do with it!
We're the equivalent of Italy or similar to the last big one,IMO!!

 

[Como]

At least some good is coming from this:

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

UN condemns 'large number of civilian casualties' in north Gaza as Israel steps up campaign

Ten people were killed and 40 injured after Israel attacked a food distribution centre in the Jabalia refugee camp, the UNRWA says

www.bbc.co.uk

Who does he think he is?

 

[wingy]

UN condemns 'large number of civilian casualties' in north Gaza as Israel steps up campaign

Ten people were killed and 40 injured after Israel attacked a food distribution centre in the Jabalia refugee camp, the UNRWA says

www.bbc.co.uk

Who does he think he is?

The chosen?

 

[MalcSB]

Netanyahu telling UN to get its peace keeping troops out. The US really need to tell him to fuck off, but they won’t because of the upcoming election.

In other news, it’s claimed that Israel have killed 42,000 Palestinians. It really is a rogue state.

 

[thekidfromstrettoncamp]

Netanyahu telling UN to get its peace keeping troops out. The US really need to tell him to fuck off, but they won’t because of the upcoming election.

In other news, it’s claimed that Israel have killed 42,000 Palestinians. It really is a rogue state.

A third of those are children. In Pete Seeger's words "when will they ever learn?"

 

[Ian1779]

Netanyahu telling UN to get its peace keeping troops out. The US really need to tell him to fuck off, but they won’t because of the upcoming election.

In other news, it’s claimed that Israel have killed 42,000 Palestinians. It really is a rogue state.

He belongs in The Hague, or better yet suffer the same fate as Hussein, Gaddafi and Bin Laden.

 

[chiefdave]

He belongs in The Hague, or better yet suffer the same fate as Hussein, Gaddafi and Bin Laden.

Some horrific footage on twitter of people taking refuge in tents in the grounds of a hospital burning to death after Israel targeted them

 

[Ian1779]

Some horrific footage on twitter of people taking refuge in tents in the grounds of a hospital burning to death after Israel targeted them

He is a terrorist - plain and simple.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

He is a terrorist - plain and simple.

Pure and simple or is that just hearsay

 

[fernandopartridge]

Pure and simple or is that just hearsay

What? Hearsay?