Never said that, I just said they had 5 days to leave, if they really wanted to survive and remove the risk they can join the other 600,000 people that went south.Yeah....but to be fair, We've had 5 days to leave......if we're all still here, we must be terrorists. Isn't that right @Kizz
Was a extreme religion some 500 years agoWell I didn't - I called the Islam religion that - lovely attempt at deflection from a nonsense statement by SBT though
Interestingly many people label the Christian and Catholic religion that as well and in fact someone put an image of Jesus with a cigarette in his had on here the other day
Just imagine if........
Once hamas are gone there will be another then another then another, that's the Muslim religion, Islam is one of the greatest threats to humanity.Okay, heres a question for those that are in total support of the Israeli actions.
Do they have a complete carte blanche here in your eyes, or would there be anything that was a step too far?
Just a genuine question. Not trying to provoke, or catch anyone out. I just wonder if you would find anything and everything acceptable if it meant getting rid of Hamas?
No lines to be drawn at all?
Once hamas are gone there will be another then another then another, that's the Muslim religion, Islam is one of the greatest threats to humanity.Okay, heres a question for those that are in total support of the Israeli actions.
Do they have a complete carte blanche here in your eyes, or would there be anything that was a step too far?
Just a genuine question. Not trying to provoke, or catch anyone out. I just wonder if you would find anything and everything acceptable if it meant getting rid of Hamas?
No lines to be drawn at all?
Okay, heres a question for those that are in total support of the Israeli actions.
Do they have a complete carte blanche here in your eyes, or would there be anything that was a step too far?
Just a genuine question. Not trying to provoke, or catch anyone out. I just wonder if you would find anything and everything acceptable if it meant getting rid of Hamas?
No lines to be drawn at all?
Never said that, I just said they had 5 days to leave, if they really wanted to survive and remove the risk they can join the other 600,000 people that went south.
Then hamas shouldn't have dug up the water pipes to make missiles, they like bragging about that.How do you propose the newborn babies or patients with life threatening illnesses & injuries make they way through a war zone, with no water, food or medicine whilst dodging the constant carpet-bombing?
Personally, I do think there a large majority of Muslims that are peaceful and law-abiding.The thing I find very strange about this is that it is a Jewish state - the only Jewish state - and there seems an awful lot of focus on Israel
Then of course there is the rather boring accusations of being anti Muslim blah blah
But there are 11 million Muslims who are receiving appalling abuse including 1 million in detention camps in a certain other country. When I called this genocide and asked why nothing was done I was lectured it was not genocide at all. The UN says its crimes against Humanity.
I find this very odd.
That's not what I asked though. Do you think it is acceptable for Israel to use any means at all in order to reach their goal?Once hamas are gone there will be another then another then another, that's the Muslim religion, Islam is one of the greatest threats to humanity.
However once hamas are gone from the gaza strip maybe just maybe they will live in peace for a little while.
Personally, I do think there a large majority of Muslims that are peaceful and law-abiding.
I used to work with a Muslim and he used to be in the British army and one of my best friends is a Muslim and they are one of the nicest people you could ever wish to meet.
It's where you get the extremism and strict adherence to scriptures that problems arise.
I could never bring myself to support Hamas, or Hezbollah, or ISIS, or the Taliban etc. They are stuck rigidly in an ancient past of religious books written by men, for men.
There are so many Islamic regimes that I don't like, but at the same time I have met so many lovely Muslims over the years.
Plus there is water and electric in the South. You're making out like they have to walk.
Yes!That's not what I asked though. Do you think it is acceptable for Israel to use any means at all in order to reach their goal?
I don't know. I guess it's because it's everywhere and this is one recent, awful incident, so people tend to focus on things as they actually happen and that are heavily reported at the timeWhy then does no one raise the issue of the persecution I’m referring to which is infinitely worse than what’s happened here?
Okay. Appreciate your honesty.Yes!
If you're referring to China then it's $$$$.The politics of economic convenience. Same as Govts & people don't really go to town on widespread human rights violations across the "oil states".Why then does no one raise the issue of the persecution I’m referring to which is infinitely worse than what’s happened here?
Yup. What the Chinese are doing to the Uyghurs is absolutely appalling, but no-one is ever going to do anything about it are they.If you're referring to China then it's $$$$.The politics of economic convenience. Same as Govts & people don't really go to town on widespread human rights violations across the "oil states".
It’s a good point to put to Hamas and free Palestine movements but it is a bit whataboutery isn’t it?Yup. What the Chinese are doing to the Uyghurs is absolutely appalling, but no-one is ever going to do anything about it are they.
I guess we feel (the US and UK) have some sway with Israel.
China are always just going to do whatever they want I think and I don't think anyone is going to ever stop them.
It’s a good point to put to Hamas and free Palestine movements but it is a bit whataboutery isn’t it?
It's very fair to say, if we were to comment on all the ills of the world and every piece of wrongdoing, we would never be off this siteTo be honest it's nonsense, the idea that everyone can comment on every situation all the time.
I'd have never commented on this if someone didn't start the thread and have pretty much avoided the Ukraine one.
I've still been following what's going on just chose not to get involved online, should have done that with this one!
I'm regretting commenting on this one!I'd have never commented on this if someone didn't start the thread
You're a good bloke, Pete and one day I might actually get to meet you (that's not a threatI’ve loved everyone’s responses - it’s one of the parts of my life where I get opinions other than my own
I don’t think your view is taboo (other than suggesting that everyone else is a Hamas supporterSo look
More to stop arguing with people I'm out of this discussion , I appreciate that my views are not one that some like but I stand by them on this , doesn't mean I don't like people just means I think that like with most things in life there alot of people maybe being disingenuous on this subject because the alternative view is a bit taboo .
So I'm out
I think everything is going to get worse as a result of this. More attacks across the world.400,000 members of the Israeli army are ready to begin the ground force.
Mental. It's going to be seriously deadly. Even worse if Lebanon get involved.
This is where Internet forums don't work.Using your fucked up logic, the Ukrainians have had 9 years to get out the way.......so fuck them as well yeah?
This is where Internet forums don't work.
You've taken a comment on one topic, then totally twisted it as being somehow a set in stone logic (totally bizare) and then you've chosen to apply that twisted logic to a completely different scenario!
Seriously, how fucked up is that?
It’s a good point to put to Hamas and free Palestine movements but it is a bit whataboutery isn’t it?
I think everything is going to get worse as a result of this. More attacks across the world.
It's ridiculous isn't it. You keep trying to tell yourself this is the 21st century, but humankind never, ever learns and wars just continue unabated.Absolutely. If Iran get involved, will our friends across the pond get stuck in?
That's before you factor what China must be thinking now. Perfect opportunity for them to conduct their invasion of Taiwan.
It's all very pathetic. How has humanity still not learnt?
Once hamas are gone there will be another then another then another, that's the Muslim religion, Islam is one of the greatest threats to humanity.
Orban was far too wokeDid you move out of Hungary for it not being right-wing enough?
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