Israel will soon listen if we threaten an arms embargo. Their military can’t function effectively without Western support in arms and possibly more importantly spares for hardware. Israel’s enemies and neighbours are also pretty much all Russian allies so it’s not like Isreal really has options. We have more influence on Israel than western governments are willing to let on or use.I think it's safe to say that Israel isn't going to listen to the International community.
And what is worse, worying that an empty Gaza might become occupied by Israel, or standing by and doing nothing while innocents are massacred?
How fucked up is that?
And if you want to play clever politics, if Israel where to move in and ocupy an empty Gaza, then it no longer becomes about crushing Hamas, and becomes purely a land grab, which would be seen as a war crime by the international community.
You may be correctI think most people accept what Israel are doing is wrong, I certainly think they have taken it too far, but I'm getting a feeling more and more like there is a lot of sympathy for Hamas. - That isn't just on here, in the real world too.
It's possible to dislike both of them right? That's certainly my stand point, but I'm not really seeing that going on and feel increasingly like the only side people seem to be denouncing is Israel (the odd troll aside). Say something bad about Palestine or Hamas and it ends up in arguments. Why is that? Closet sympathy with Hamas coming out? Secret hatred for Israel given an excuse? Or just seen enough of the retaliation to think it's gone too far and the festival attacks are more or less irrelevant in comparison now?
Very curious to see what people think. Hopefully this post isn't shot down.
Genuine question here.
While I'm sure all right minded human beings deplore the mass killing of innocent people wherever they may be, and whoever they are,
What I don't understand is why fellow neighbouring Muslim countries such as Egypt, Jordan, Iraq and Turkey don't open their borders and allow those who have been displaced to be temporarily relocated to avoid the bloodshed.
(Like we and other countries did for the Ukranians)
I'm genuinely perplexed.
First strike to the Houti's who could have predicted that, so, expansion of a conflict nobody wants?
Nobody with eyesight anyway!
What’s happenedFirst strike to the Houti's who could have predicted that, so, expansion of a conflict nobody wants?
Nobody with eyesight anyway!
It's okay they're not British!
Murdering children and getting away with it
Israeli forces shoot dead 12-year-old Palestinian who set off firework
Rami Hamdan Al-Halhouli was shot by an Israeli police officer in the walled-in Shuafat refugee camp.www.bbc.co.uk
Would be nice to know what this 12 year old not in Gaza has to do with Hamas12 year old terrorist according to Gvir, given he's got a conviction for terrorism surely he'd be happy for someone to shoot him?
An affront to humanity.‘You can call it ethnic cleansing’
Jewish settlers set their sights on Gaza beachfront
They see an opportunity to push for a return of Jewish settlements to the Palestinian territory.www.bbc.co.uk
Shameful of the BBC to produce a piece aiming to condone it.‘You can call it ethnic cleansing’
Jewish settlers set their sights on Gaza beachfront
They see an opportunity to push for a return of Jewish settlements to the Palestinian territory.www.bbc.co.uk
I really don’t think that was the aim of the pieceShameful of the BBC to produce a piece aiming to condone it.
What do you think it was then?I really don’t think that was the aim of the piece
A pretty sobering insight into how deep the dehumanisation runs in that region.What do you think it was then?
To be honest I agree with SBT on this. The writer seems ok calling out these extremist opinions for what they are and the people interviewed are so brazen they have no qualms saying it out loud.What do you think it was then?
Really?Shameful of the BBC to produce a piece aiming to condone it.
Shameful of the BBC to produce a piece aiming to condone it.
I personally feel that when you talk about an individuals opinion in a piece like that then you are adding the human element in condoning it.Bizarre that anyone can read it that way….
‘There is no evidence that Palestinians want to leave their homeland - although many may now dream of escaping temporarily, to save their lives. For most Palestinians, there is no way out. The borders are tightly controlled by Israel and Egypt, and no foreign countries have offered refuge.’
‘Gaza is far from empty, but much of it has been erased after almost six months of relentless Israeli bombardment
It is the "greatest open-air graveyard" in the world, in the words of the EU's foreign policy chief, Josep Borrell.’
This is the problem these days, you can’t have a balanced independent piece without one side wanting a more rabid, emotive article. Worrying.
In terms of the article itself it helps people to understand how some Israelis are looking at the situation which is scary !
I think it’s supposed to make you feel uncomfortable! Do you think the piece would have been improved by a footnote saying “btw ethnic cleansing is bad”?I personally feel that when you talk about an individuals opinion in a piece like that then you are adding the human element in condoning it.
"I have friends in Tel Aviv," she says, "so they say, 'Don't forget to keep for me a plot near the coast in Gaza,' because it's a beautiful, beautiful coast, beautiful golden sand".
She tells them the plots on the coast are already booked
Pieces of the report like above make me feel very uncomfortable (as well as it being insensitive given how many people have died there)
I don’t see the piece as condoning it at all.I personally feel that when you talk about an individuals opinion in a piece like that then you are adding the human element in condoning it.
"I have friends in Tel Aviv," she says, "so they say, 'Don't forget to keep for me a plot near the coast in Gaza,' because it's a beautiful, beautiful coast, beautiful golden sand".
She tells them the plots on the coast are already booked
Pieces of the report like above make me feel very uncomfortable (as well as it being insensitive given how many people have died there)
I personally feel that when you talk about an individuals opinion in a piece like that then you are adding the human element in condoning it.
"I have friends in Tel Aviv," she says, "so they say, 'Don't forget to keep for me a plot near the coast in Gaza,' because it's a beautiful, beautiful coast, beautiful golden sand".
She tells them the plots on the coast are already booked
Weasle words to come from Biden's administration, they were sympathisers!! Nazi regime!!
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