Grendel
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Of course not
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Of course not
Tea & Busquets
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Jheez idk you take a guess first since you have all the answers oh wise one let’s hear it
Grendel
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You actually just spew out sound byte rhetoric you’ve picked up from the internet - sorry you’ve no clue even what you are typing
You waded in that the very beginning on here and refuse to acknowledge Israel is backed by all major bodies in the West
You are effectively the Naz Shah of the group as you’ve already admitted to hating Israel which is interesting when you then seek a solution
What the fuck?
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So if this means you're right on Israel how come the West opposing Russia's invasion doesn't make you wrong on Ukraine?
Do you also think we are right to arm the Saudis to bomb Yeman?
Tea & Busquets
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Tea & Busquets
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clint van damme
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Otis
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No-one has sympathised with Hamas have they?
They have sympathised with Palestine and the Palestinian people.
Was listening to 5 Live this morning and it was saying so many Palestinians really hate Hamas.
Think all people are saying is, what Hamas did was horrific, but let's not pretend Israel are innocent. Both sides have historic culpability in this unholy (holy) mess.
I’m sorry, this is just more offensive generalising bullshit. Don’t care how many surveys you want to link to.
Tea & Busquets
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I knew somebody from Gaza once. They were one of the more well-off Palestinians, family owned a business and could afford to send him to the UK. He was happy to be friends with people from, wherever really, wasn't particularly politically engaged. However in the background, his family had lost a lot of their land and property during Israeli occupation.
And then once didn't come back once for months - Israel wouldn't let people out and then shelled where he lived, repeatedly. His family lost everything.
He despised Israel for what they did - he voted Hamas or whatever their political wing is, as what he saw was his land oppressed and colonised by an aggressor, when all his family wanted to do was work a living.
There are many sides to this story.
Of course, there'll be tales the other way of why non radical Israelis go hardline but I can't give the personal account of those, doesn't mean they don't exist though!
But that's what happens when places are drawn up and divided without empathy, people are ignored, and others exploit people for their own ends.
And then once didn't come back once for months - Israel wouldn't let people out and then shelled where he lived, repeatedly. His family lost everything.
He despised Israel for what they did - he voted Hamas or whatever their political wing is, as what he saw was his land oppressed and colonised by an aggressor, when all his family wanted to do was work a living.
There are many sides to this story.
Of course, there'll be tales the other way of why non radical Israelis go hardline but I can't give the personal account of those, doesn't mean they don't exist though!
But that's what happens when places are drawn up and divided without empathy, people are ignored, and others exploit people for their own ends.
Tea & Busquets
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Yes it’s heavily documented, you can find a wide range of polls, biased, unbiased, etc that will all tell you roughly the same thing. I’m not linking 300 polls. It’s also just common sense that someone living in any country most likely supports its existence.
There's a picture, and if you don't take that at face value then you're a baby murderer.
I said the exact same thing when Grendel was trotting out crude generalisations about all Muslims being “generally the most racist”.
This is not about giving any side a free pass, it’s about not slurring and dehumanising millions of people based on the actions of some of the worst members of their community.
clint van damme
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I saw a picture of that 'dead' German girl, her mother has confirmed she's alive.
Truth the first casualty of war and all that....
clint van damme
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I support the existence of the UK but I don't support our fuck knuckled government or their ideology.
Sky Blue Pete
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Don’t know if accurate but owen jones says 96% of deaths in the conflict are Palestinian over the last 15 years
50% of the Palestinian population are children
50% of the Palestinian population are children
Didn't you vote for Brexit?
Brexit was opposed by the leader of the UK and pretty much every major western government - especially in the EU.
There's also evidence that Russia interfered with the democratic process leading up to the Brexit vote, and it's pretty clear Russia wanted Brexit.
So does that mean your views are aligned with Russia's (as you were badgering Tea & Busquets about earlier)?
I assume your reasoning would be that the government(s) were wrong about Brexit at the time, which is why you opposed them? And I assume Russia's support, and possible involvement, was an unfortunate footnote?
That would actually make you a hypocrite on this thread, as you're basically saying the same thing.
clint van damme
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skybluetony176
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He said it secured British jobs so it was fine
clint van damme
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Don't mention dead Palestinian kids too much Pete, you'll have a few on this forum reaching for their wanking sock
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For balance, it turns out I also know somebody who was dismissed for criticising the Palestinian Authority's killing of one of their critics!
State manipulation behind people
State manipulation behind people
jimmyhillsfanclub
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For balance, I like a bagel AND I like a kebab...... woke as fuck, me!
Grendel
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I think the mask has slipped with Tea and Bikkies - we all see what solution he wants
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Israeli flags 'forcibly' removed from Sheffield and Rotherham town halls
Israeli flags flown in a "show of solidarity" were removed in Sheffield and Rotherham, the councils say.
www.bbc.co.uk
Flag wars.....
David O'Day
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Lads, google is your friend
90% of Israeli Jews call themselves Zionists, Herzl Day poll finds, so it seems he was talking about something that there is evidence for.
90% of Israeli Jews call themselves Zionists, Herzl Day poll finds, so it seems he was talking about something that there is evidence for.
Whatever fuckin flag you want to put up there. Post a picture of your own testicles if you want to.
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skybluetony176
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My understanding has always been that the vast majority of Heradi Jews are anti-Zionist as they see the creation of the current State of Israel as as blasphemy. They account for about 16% of Jews in Israel and it’s also the fastest growing sect of Judaism. Many many Orthodox Jews feel the same, especially ones from Jerusalem many of who refer to themselves as Neturei Karta and see themselves as protectors of Jerusalem. The other clue is that General elections in Israel are pretty much always a hung parliament and the government is a coalition. Less than 50% of the population of Israel are secular Jews and as a rough rule of thumb it’s secular Jews that tend to be Zionist.
Where is the evidence that all “Zionists are twats”?