It is all dead (3 Viewers)

SkyblueBri · Apr 15, 2014

After being a season ticket holder for longer than I care to think about everything now seems dead, I have never been to Sixfields and never will.
I have tried going to local non league matches but they are not my Sky Blues.
At this time of the year, we should be moaning about the cost of season tickets and discussing who to let go and who to bring in for the new season, but now it all seems pointless.
Even CWR Sky Blue Friday night programme is dieing on its feet, last Friday no one phoned in and even though Eakin tries his best it is hardly worth listening to.
So I hold out hope that June JR may be a turning point, but looking at past performance in the courts I am not that hopeful.

Covkid1968# · Apr 15, 2014

Well thats certainly cheered me up Bri.......You mention non league teams, who have you been to see becasue I was starting to think about giving Cov Utd a bit of my support given they are pushing for promotion.

covcity4life · Apr 15, 2014

fuck non league teams, OP is right, this farce needs to end.

skybluetony176 · Apr 15, 2014

i was listening to CWR on Saturday and someone phoned in after the match (think he was Andy from Leamington) he was at the game and left at half time because he basicaly said the club was dead and he's had enough, he also said he is a season ticket holder at sixfields. he was genuenly upset and i think the 1st half performance was the the straw that broke the camels back. he didn't name and blame any party involved in the whole affair just simply said that the club was dead and he'd had enough.

i think next seasons away crowds will be an indicator of the state of the fan base, especially if we play MK again next season in the league. i dont think we'll fill the lower tier next season myself let alone need the top tier. i think the mood is changing big time and the clubs death is speeding up, the current status quo is only going to assist that. its time to bring the club home if only on a 3year deal.

AndreasB · Apr 15, 2014

oh pull yourselves together, the team are still there in league one busting a gut to try and improve themselves and get out of this league. yes they are in northampton which is a bit shit but they still need you - just go to away games if that helps you - have you forgotten we were docked 10 points this season and yet still might finish in the top half of the division.
Really need to question your commitment if you are giving up at this stage.

rightumpty · Apr 15, 2014

Same here. We appear to be the club that no one wants.

play_in_skyblue_stripes · Apr 15, 2014

AndreasB said:
oh pull yourselves together, the team are still there in league one busting a gut to try and improve themselves and get out of this league. yes they are in northampton which is a bit shit but they still need you - just go to away games if that helps you - have you forgotten we were docked 10 points this season and yet still might finish in the top half of the division.
Really need to question your commitment if you are giving up at this stage.

Top half of tier 3, that's really great for a premiership club. Thanks SISU .

My commitment to Coventry City is NOT to attend "home" games and try to help prompt an end to this charade

DaleM · Apr 15, 2014

AndreasB said:
oh pull yourselves together, the team are still there in league one busting a gut to try and improve themselves and get out of this league. yes they are in northampton which is a bit shit but they still need you - just go to away games if that helps you - have you forgotten we were docked 10 points this season and yet still might finish in the top half of the division.
Really need to question your commitment if you are giving up at this stage.

Understatement of the year there AndreasB.

I know of only a couple of people who go to Sixfields and they are not regulars , they only go to the odd game, everyone else I know will not follow the club to Northampton.
I think that the fan base that the club could rely on has been decimated this season and will only go further down the longer the club stay away.
I have found other things to do on a Saturday now. I haven't been to a game at all this season and am losing the desire to.
I am not alone in this , quite a few people I know now "Can't be arsed" with the whole sorry mess CCFC has become.

Fair play to you to keep going but how long is it going to last until you miss a few games and then a few more etc. etc. ?

sky blue john · Apr 15, 2014

AndreasB said:
oh pull yourselves together, the team are still there in league one busting a gut to try and improve themselves and get out of this league. yes they are in northampton which is a bit shit but they still need you - just go to away games if that helps you - have you forgotten we were docked 10 points this season and yet still might finish in the top half of the division.
Really need to question your commitment if you are giving up at this stage.

I will continue to go to away games. I will not go to Sixfields unless its part of a mass demonstration.
When the new stadium outside of Coventry is built in 4-5 years time. I will continue to go to away games only.
A new stadium outside Coventry will be dead to me !!

AndreasB · Apr 15, 2014

play_in_skyblue_stripes said:
Top half of tier 3, that's really great for a premiership club. Thanks SISU .

My commitment to Coventry City is NOT to attend "games" and try to help prompt an end to this charade

" a premiership club" thats part of our/your our problem - we were in the top flight for 30% of our existance but feel we have a divine right to be there.

sky blue john · Apr 15, 2014

AndreasB said:
" a premiership club" thats part of our/your our problem - we were in the top flight for 30% of our existance but feel we have a divine right to be there.

You must be happy at sixfields playing in league one then ?

Spagbol · Apr 15, 2014

No Andreas the problem with people like you and SISU, is you have NO ambition, and are accepting of 3rd tier football, we are WITH OUT DOUBT, A team that should be in the premier league or fighting at the top end of championship to get there. Why can't we have that, why should we accept this... It's a mess a disgrace and it makes me boil that people accept it and then expect the rest of us to.... Look at wolves, the mind set as a whole was , we are in the wrong league, well so are we PUSB.

Jack Griffin · Apr 15, 2014

A spell in league one should be seen as a sojourn to sort out the finances before getting back to the championship.

The club is Coventry not Crewe, Rotherham or Bretford, but that is the level we're at right now and we'll remain so whilst in Northampton. Could be a long wait if SISU get to break even, that is why they have to lose money every year & why NOPM makes sense to me.

AndreasB · Apr 15, 2014

Spagbol said:
No Andreas the problem with people like you and SISU, is you have NO ambition, and are accepting of 3rd tier football, we are WITH OUT DOUBT, A team that should be in the premier league or fighting at the top end of championship to get there. Why can't we have that, why should we accept this... It's a mess a disgrace and it makes me boil that people accept it and then expect the rest of us to.... Look at wolves, the mind set as a whole was , we are in the wrong league, well so are we PUSB.

You can get as cross as you like but we are where we are until we have owners who are prepared to invest substantially more than currently which I dont think is likely do you? The sins of the past when we sold our soul for some premiership fun mean that we will have to work doubly hard Im afraid. Its all incremental, first step is to get stabilised in L1(this year), next step is playoffs next year, after that, consolidate championship again...then who knows....
Hand in hand with this is getting back to the Ricoh and then our fans returning to at least 12,000 for L1, 18,000 for Championship and you know..someone might think we are worth a gamble.

You getting very cross or giving up achieves nothing.

bigfatronssba · Apr 15, 2014

AndreasB said:
" a premiership club" thats part of our/your our problem - we were in the top flight for 30% of our existance but feel we have a divine right to be there.

Or to look at it another way, we have been a top two divisions club for nearly 80% of our existence, yet we now have no ambition to get back up there.

shmmeee · Apr 15, 2014

AndreasB said:
You can get as cross as you like but we are where we are until we have owners who are prepared to invest substantially more than currently which I dont think is likely do you? The sins of the past when we sold our soul for some premiership fun mean that we will have to work doubly hard Im afraid. Its all incremental, first step is to get stabilised in L1(this year), next step is playoffs next year, after that, consolidate championship again...then who knows....
Hand in hand with this is getting back to the Ricoh and then our fans returning to at least 12,000 for L1, 18,000 for Championship and you know..someone might think we are worth a gamble.

You getting very cross or giving up achieves nothing.

It doesn't take a billionaire owner, it takes one who is committed to growing the club.

When was the last time we had an owner who tried innovative schemes to increase support? The 60s?

Sisu have finally sorted on the pitch strategy out (to some extent), only to fuck it up monumentally off it.

With our catchment area and history, we are not a L1 side, no matter how much you enjoy doing the club and city down. It's not unrealistic to tell Sisu that they are mismanaging the club to the point where it's not punching it's weight.

shy_tall_knight · Apr 15, 2014

But loads of clubs sold their soul to stay in the premiership and have a dip drop a few leagues but bounce book or even look like they will bounce back, Wolves, Sheff Utd in our league, we are on a decline that is beginning to accelerate. Not many Cov fans think we have a divine right to be in the premiership but we are not a league 1 club. I have been to my least number of games since 1982/83 season. I am only considering poing away next season to keep my sons interested, its not that I have lost interest but I find it thoroughly depressing and would rather the club hit the bottom now so that we could then have the hope that things can get better. Next season I predict relegation based on the clubs inability to attract sufficient quality players to join the current shambles of a club. Look at our form since Xmas and the quality and level of commitment of the players brought in.

AFCCOVENTRY · Apr 15, 2014

A season at Northampton next season again will definitely drive the slow dagger sisu have put into our sky blue hearts further.

Fan base is being decimated and there is no way it will recover when sisu build a mythical stadium in the next 5+ years.

mark_ccfc · Apr 15, 2014

AndreasB said:
oh pull yourselves together, the team are still there in league one busting a gut to try and improve themselves and get out of this league. yes they are in northampton which is a bit shit but they still need you - just go to away games if that helps you - have you forgotten we were docked 10 points this season and yet still might finish in the top half of the division.
Really need to question your commitment if you are giving up at this stage.

If they needed us all that bad they shouldn't have moved to Northampton. If they want something from the fans they need to give the fans some respect. SISU need to come back and do some serious grovelling instead of blaming everyone else for what they have done.

The whole SISU/ACL/CCC thing is wearing everyone down now.

AndreasB · Apr 15, 2014

No, it was last year. Our season ticket prices were some of the most competitive in the Championship/L1 and £5 for the JPT sold the place out - unfortunately our supporters were not convinced.
The Big Club mentality has for years seen us bypassed by smaller clubs but at least their fans stuck by them in troubled times. Would Leeds fans boycott Sixfields if Leeds moved to Wakefield? Of course they wouldnt.

bigfatronssba · Apr 15, 2014

AndreasB said:
No, it was last year. Our season ticket prices were some of the most competitive in the Championship/L1 and £5 for the JPT sold the place out - unfortunately our supporters were not convinced.
The Big Club mentality has for years seen us bypassed by smaller clubs but at least their fans stuck by them in troubled times. Would Leeds fans boycott Sixfields if Leeds moved to Wakefield? Of course they wouldnt.

And the aforementioned leeds fans would most likely smash the adopted stadium up and try their best to get their hands on the abnoxious little shit of a ceo who caused it all.

AndreasB · Apr 15, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
And the aforementioned leeds fans would most likely smash the adopted stadium up and try their best to get their hands on the abnoxious little shit of a ceo who caused it all.

No they wouldnt - thats just a lazy sterotype

DazzleTommyDazzle · Apr 15, 2014

AndreasB said:
The Big Club mentality has for years seen us bypassed by smaller clubs but at least their fans stuck by them in troubled times. Would Leeds fans boycott Sixfields if Leeds moved to Wakefield? Of course they wouldnt.

In my view it would very much depend on their perception of why they had moved.

If I believed that we had been forced out of the Ricoh and had no choice but to move, then not only would I be attending Sixfields, I'd probably be buying a couple of extra season tickets as a gesture of solidarity.

wingy · Apr 15, 2014

Sorry ,our prices were too low for this league ,but especially to the one above .

It's been demonstrated many times Income per match per ST equated to £11-£12 ,simply not enough ,we've been paying Circa £23 for every away fixture this season ,go figure.

fernandopartridge · Apr 15, 2014

Spagbol said:
No Andreas the problem with people like you and SISU, is you have NO ambition, and are accepting of 3rd tier football, we are WITH OUT DOUBT, A team that should be in the premier league or fighting at the top end of championship to get there. Why can't we have that, why should we accept this... It's a mess a disgrace and it makes me boil that people accept it and then expect the rest of us to.... Look at wolves, the mind set as a whole was , we are in the wrong league, well so are we PUSB.

No evidence to support that assertion. We were relegated 13 years ago. We've not once looked like even being close to returning. The gates dropped off immediately following relegation. We seem to revert to our 'top division type' in every league.

Covstu · Apr 15, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
And the aforementioned leeds fans would most likely smash the adopted stadium up and try their best to get their hands on the abnoxious little shit of a ceo who caused it all.

Yes because they really smashed the place up when all that shit was happening with their new owner didnt they!

Covstu · Apr 15, 2014

No team has a devine right to be in the prem league, we have been out in the cold for over a decade and have never been close to returning. I am sure alot of teams feel that they should be back there in the big time, Leeds, Middleborough, Derby, Sheffield Wed & Utd to name a few and most of them had more continued success that we did up there.

Our aspirations have been limited with 'Operation Premiership' being a monumental flop but i dont think any fan is happy about being in league one but some are more realistic about our current position than others.

Spionkop · Apr 15, 2014

Yes they definitely would. What planet are you on?
Leeds fans would go ballistic.

Covstu · Apr 15, 2014

Spionkop said:
Yes they definitely would. What planet are you on?
Leeds fans would go ballistic.

so why are we so different??

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 15, 2014

AndreasB said:
No they wouldnt - thats just a lazy sterotype

Leeds fans are probably the most dedicated supporters(And roughest) you, would ever come across. Quick question..Have you ever been to Elland Road when their fans aren't very happy? I've been as a neutral in the "Home End" a few years ago. they ripped seats out trying to get at Bates. Not a nice place to be, believe me.

bigfatronssba · Apr 15, 2014

AndreasB said:
No they wouldnt - thats just a lazy sterotype

And claiming that they would all travel on mass to a different town without any evidence to support such a claim is what exactly ?

musicmanskyblue · Apr 15, 2014

I don't think we have a divine right to play in the top tier, but i DO think we have a divine right to play in our own city...

stupot07 · Apr 15, 2014

Spagbol said:
No Andreas the problem with people like you and SISU, is you have NO ambition, and are accepting of 3rd tier football, we are WITH OUT DOUBT, A team that should be in the premier league or fighting at the top end of championship to get there. Why can't we have that, why should we accept this... It's a mess a disgrace and it makes me boil that people accept it and then expect the rest of us to.... Look at wolves, the mind set as a whole was , we are in the wrong league, well so are we PUSB.

No ambition? What do you expect when your finances of limited by lack of access to additional revenue??

Championship relegation season - 9 team had lower attendances, yet we were in the bottom 3-4 in size of turnover, which incidentally was circa 1/3rd of promoted reading, Southampton and west hams wage bill.

(Sorry broken record)

We will never be fighting at the top of the championship until access to revenue is sorted, regardless off the owners.

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Grendel · Apr 15, 2014

Spionkop said:
Yes they definitely would. What planet are you on?
Leeds fans would go ballistic.

How do you think PWKH would be received on a Leeds fans forum, how do you think councillors would be received -- do you think their fans would be salivating over a management company?

DazzleTommyDazzle · Apr 15, 2014

stupot07 said:
No ambition? What do you expect when your finances of limited by lack of access to additional revenue??

Championship relegation season - 9 team had lower attendances, yet we were in the bottom 3-4 in size of turnover, which incidentally was circa 1/3rd of promoted reading, Southampton and west hams wage bill.

(Sorry broken record)

We will never be fighting at the top of the championship until access to revenue is sorted, regardless off the owners.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors

Stupot - as you imply, you've repeated that piece of information a number of times.

I think that I'm right in saying that your implication is that disconnect between "attendance league position" and "revenue league position" is down to what has become known around these parts as "pie money".

You may well be right, but it occurs to me that other factors such as ticket prices may have played a (large?) part.

Have you been able to identify such other factors and rule them out? (not a dig - I'm not sure if this would be available).

I ask because whilst I would agree that the more revenue streams the club has access to the better, I'm not sure how much of a game changer it would be in reality.

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