torchomatic
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Oh yeah definitely.
I'm very unsure what you do with Sheaf long-term.
Sell him. Not sure what other option we have. Club comes first.
He's either injured or coming back from injury and getting up to fitness.
Oh yeah definitely.
I'm very unsure what you do with Sheaf long-term.
Also when he’s on song Sheaf is absolutely class. FA Cup run last season, dominated Wolves and Man Utd.
If we go up this year I think we’ll need that Ben Sheaf at some point.
I think that rumour that Man Utd were interested in him were absolutely bullshit.
[mention]Saddlebrains [/mention] can you confirm?
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Sell him. Not sure what other option we have. Club comes first.
He's either injured or coming back from injury and getting up to fitness.
They did actually send a scout to watch him funnily enough
Interest stopped quite abruptly though
Couldn't afford himThey did actually send a scout to watch him funnily enough
Interest stopped quite abruptly though
Couldn't agree on a fee, we only wanted £10m but they kept offering £35mCouldn't afford him![]()
I think we will only get about £3m for Sheaf, I suspect he is taking care of himself because he knows he is away in the summer. In many ways fair enough, he has to look after his own interests.
Overall the club might have mishandled the situation, had they have sold him last summer and brought in a replacement we might have had a better start to this season, could hardly have been any worse.
I don’t think so.
If Hamer couldn’t get a prem team to buy him and COH only got a top end Championship team to sign him as a free agency after a career best season… where would Sheaf end up?
His best interests are probably getting promoted with us which could happen this season.
He's not man U quality even though they have fallen.They did actually send a scout to watch him funnily enough
Interest stopped quite abruptly though
Just gets better. He rewritten his own script a few times now.
Hes the only player from the league 1 season.(i think)...not sure if Eccles got a game in league 1.
Quality player. Love him.
The way he's being written off by many on here is just bizarre. Lampard has made it fairly clear he rates him. If he moves this summer most likely it'll be for non football reasons imo.He's not man U quality even though they have fallen.
A Fulham or palace maybe. They both doing really well too mind you.
Still it needs to be remembered that he could do a job for us yet so let's not get on his back. If he goes in summer he goes but until then he is a ccfc player and may yet have a part to play in our fortunes
Injury prone and had a bad season so far, both parties need him to turn it around.He's not man U quality even though they have fallen.
A Fulham or palace maybe. They both doing really well too mind you.
Still it needs to be remembered that he could do a job for us yet so let's not get on his back. If he goes in summer he goes but until then he is a ccfc player and may yet have a part to play in our fortunes
The way he's being written off by many on here is just bizarre. Lampard has made it fairly clear he rates him. If he moves this summer most likely it'll be for non football reasons imo.
Bit of bickering in this thread (shock) so made me think about our midfield
And amazingly, for me anyway, I had Sheaf as the 4th choice out of 5. Prepared for pelters of course But how I would rank them in order of importance to us now
Grimes
Rudoni
Torp
Allen
Sheaf
Eccles
Bit of bickering in this thread (shock) so made me think about our midfield
And amazingly, for me anyway, I had Sheaf as the 4th choice out of 5. Prepared for pelters of course But how I would rank them in order of importance to us now
Grimes
Rudoni
Torp
Allen
Sheaf
Eccles
I said on another thread somewhere on here and got the usual 'I'm stirring shit' comments, but there is a frustration with these 'niggles' from within the club also
Lampard made a point of stating Josh Eccles carried on with his knock as he wants to do what he can for the team, Sheaf on the other hand feels a twinge or soreness etc and immediately he's unavailable unless he feels alright
Was also what was the source of the rumours at Sunderland away where I and others were told he 'didn't fancy it'.
Now again, I reiterate im a huge (less now tbh) Ben Sheaf fan, but we are at the stage now where unless he is fully fit and putting in performances worthy of club captain, for what we hope are 11 games to get us to the promised land, then it's right for him aswell as us as a club that he moves on
Sell him. Not sure what other option we have. Club comes first.
He's either injured or coming back from injury and getting up to fitness.
Why would you knee-jerk sell a depreciated asset?
He was our player of the season last season…
Eccles definitely got at least one game as I remember him coming off the bench 1st game at St Andrews…against Southend?Just gets better. He rewritten his own script a few times now.
Hes the only player from the league 1 season.(i think)...not sure if Eccles got a game in league 1.
Quality player. Love him.
It's not knee-jerk. Every season he misses more and more games. If he can get back to fitness then great, I would be as happy as anyone, but if not then the Club comes first. Are you happy with a player that misses over half the games every season through injury?
If this was any player other than Sheaf then there would be outrage.
He’s missed half the games for one season.
One thing you don’t account for is that when Sheaf played, he averaged 82.5m per game (similar to 21/22 and 22/23) which, for reference is about 10m more per game than Eccles. In the context of having a small squad and the muscular injuries he gets, he’s probably been overworked. In the exact same way Torp kept getting muscular injuries in 2024 (as a whole), he wasn’t 100%, he kept playing and was more susceptible to injury.
If we went through people’s opinions on Torp, it was the same story - get injured too much. I’m sure @saddlebrains’ source reported Torp was a bit of diva (apologies if this is incorrect/someone else source).
With a larger squad, particularly in midfield, we ought to manage his and other players minutes a bit better.
I feel there are better candidates for club captain too
Why would you knee-jerk sell a depreciated asset?
He was our player of the season last season…
I think Frank is trying to work it out by letting a few have a go such as Kitching, Bidwell, Allen, Lati, Eccles etc of late. It will probably be Grimes eventuallyI definitely agree with that. He doesn't seem to lead well on the pitch. He doesn't get in the ear of the ref. There are a few likely candidates for me in midfield and defence who would make a good captain.
I get what you're saying, but the games he's played since he's been here: 22, 31, 37, 35, 30.
Fitness and injuries have always been a problem and, I agree, we relied on his a bit more in the past.
We have a lot more quality in depth in midfield now and he won't necessarily be "the first name on the team sheet" anymore. Torp and Grimes in particular are ahead of him, I think.
I have no issue with Sheaf staying and being part of our squad as long as he realises he is now a squad player not necessarily an automatic starter. There's no denying when he's at his best he is great, but it seems a long time since we've seen that Ben Sheaf, and when we do it's not very often.
He is depreciating anyway - he wouldn't be an automatic starter anyway now if fit
He is in the last season of his contract with an option to extend it next season. I think the club will take one of 2 options.Why would you knee-jerk sell a depreciated asset?
He was our player of the season last season…
If he is in the last season of a contract he has to go otherwise we get nothing
Yeah, what the ITK posters are saying may or may not be true.Just as Hadji has come back , Sheaf is a quality player , who although seemingly injury prone , might well come back stronger than ever ?
He is watching from the sidelines & must be fuming about his non participation , seeing what is possible again