chiefdave
Well-Known Member
Good news though that the housing shortage is going to be solved by architects starting to use computers and work in 3D :facepalm:
Good news though that the housing shortage is going to be solved by architects starting to use computers and work in 3D :facepalm:Just like yesterday when Matt Hancock was asked how the Tories are going to build the 40 new hospitals they're talking about.
He said the money will come in the future- imagine a Labour shadow minister coming out with an answer like that.
I see your boys have come to save you even though your post makes no sense.
How unusual.
Some people are going to loose their shit at this Tory proposal same as they did when Labour proposed similar
National Living Wage to rise to £10.50, Javid says
Or maybe not. It’s probably a good idea now.
The silence is deafening.
17 pages about one of the least charismatic, wishy washy drips in modern politics.
Labour planned £10 for 2020 I think? The Tories are planning £10.50 by 2024 so about a 5% increase year on year. The headline may make both offers sound similar but they're not. The Tories also have form for announcing similar (£9 by 2020 for example) which won't happen.
17 pages about one of the least charismatic, wishy washy drips in modern politics.
Actually the manifesto merely states that they would increase the NMW to the Living Wage (which is expected to be at least £10 by 2020). It doesn’t say whether they would do this immediately or whether it would be phased in.
Not losing anything over this. I don't accept it as a good thing anymore now, than I did when Labour announced similar.Some people are going to loose their shit at this Tory proposal same as they did when Labour proposed similar
National Living Wage to rise to £10.50, Javid says
Or maybe not. It’s probably a good idea now.
Parking the increase to one side, the important thing for me is removing the separate 21-24 year old band. For lower paid jobs there shouldn’t be a discrepancy whether you are 21 or 40....in actual fact there might well be a fair few where you’d happily pay a younger person more (I know you’re not allowed...it’s ageist)
Agreed. Though why not 18? If you’re paying tax at full rate why not get paid at full rate?
Worth pointing out that in reality the increase is roughly what it’s been the last couple of years anyway, and I’ll believe the Tories have suddenly become the workers party when I see it quite frankly. Same as if Corbyn suddenly came out with a massive defence plan.
Yeah, no issue with 18 either. If they’re good enough to land the job then why not. Apprentices are a different case though as they’ll be being trained, course costs covered etc
I was an apprentice on £300/mo at 16 and thought I’d hit the jackpot
As long as they’re actual apprenticeships that lead to a decently paid, skilled job, I’m fine with that. TBH I’d have a vocational version of uni with student grants and better esteem for trade skills. But that’s another conversation.
Far better than shovelling 50% of kids into uni, apprenticeships + is a good way forward (for individuals and country)
It's certainly created a different dynamic. For some relatively "lower" type jobs, because there are so many uni students, employers are looking for a degree just to get on the starting line. If 50% of young people have a degree of sorts, then this is a useful filter to exclude the other 50%. Never used to be the case. With crap "O levels I was able to get an Engineering apprenticeship. Was able to work my way up, competing with BSc's and Honours colleagues to eventually become Head of R&D for a world-wide manufacturer. My education would not now even get me the lowest job in the department.Said it before - we need to get rid of the stigma of 'two tier' education from things like grammar/comprehensive all the way up to uni/vocational training/apprenticeships. Both are extremely valuable tools in obtaining skills and getting people to reach their potential, just a different method to suit the individual
It is branched, not tiered. Only reason it's seen as tiered is because in the past it gave those fortunate enough to go to uni (usually due to where the were schooled rather than ability) an excuse to earn more.
You could call them polytechnics :woot:TBH I’d have a vocational version of uni with student grants and better esteem for trade skills.
Will it be a 3D House of Commons on a 3D computer made by 3D architects?Abbott to cover for Corbyn on prime ministers questions this week,That should be worth a watch.
:kiss::happy::banghead:layful:
???Will it be a 3D House of Commons on a 3D computer made by 3D architects?
Not a surprise.
I don't disagree but the problem with that is that universities are big commercial organisations and provide a significant numbers of people with jobs, and, given that the Tories in particular are determined to make the UK unattractive for why foreigner the students are going to have to come from somewhere.Couldn’t agree more. Uni should go back to being for the 25%ish it’s actually suitable for, everyone else should get the offer of business startup support or vocational on the job training (and the latter should include stuff like police and nurses as well as software engineering that really don’t need a degree).
And you should be able to bank it for later on in life. I could talk forever about post 18 education though.
Announcing the tories as the party of law and order and declaring "To the criminals, we are coming after you" while the conference is on lockdown for 20 minutes so armed police can remove Sir Geoffrey Clifton-Brown MP who has started a punch up is up there as well.Got to feel sorry for Priti Patel, announcing the UK will introduce a points based immigration system when we already had one was fairly idiotic but she still couldn't out stupid her colleagues.
Abbott to cover for Corbyn on prime ministers questions this week,That should be worth a watch.
:kiss::happy::banghead:layful:
She’s up against Raab... Abbott win nailed on.
The Brexit secretary who didn't realise what an important port for trade Dover is!
I don't disagree but the problem with that is that universities are big commercial organisations and provide a significant numbers of people with jobs, and, given that the Tories in particular are determined to make the UK unattractive for why foreigner the students are going to have to come from somewhere.
You've not being watching the Tory party conference or are you deliberately ignoring the continuous streams of fuck ups by the Tories?
LGs post refers to Ester McVeys car crash speech though personally I think James Cleverley claiming the Tories invented the NHS beats it .
Got to feel sorry for Priti Patel, announcing the UK will introduce a points based immigration system when we already had one was fairly idiotic but she still couldn't out stupid her colleagues.
Agreed. Though why not 18? If you’re paying tax at full rate why not get paid at full rate?
Not losing anything over this. I don't accept it as a good thing anymore now, than I did when Labour announced similar.
In the end it sets up a spiralling of inflation to pay for it, pay rises for those in the middle to redress their pay differential, & will leave the lowest paid back at square 1...being unable to afford to live properly just like they are now.
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