Sky Blue Pete
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Or in an amazing series of unfortunate events king Andrew accedes to the throne
Or in an amazing series of unfortunate events king Andrew accedes to the throneMost recent poll on this went 61% to keep the monarchy, 24% for an elected head of state and 15% don't know. Support for the monarchy was proportional with age, unsurprisingly. Will be interesting to see how that changes as and when Charles takes over
You sound rather bitter.
Most recent poll on this went 61% to keep the monarchy, 24% for an elected head of state and 15% don't know. Support for the monarchy was proportional with age, unsurprisingly. Will be interesting to see how that changes as and when Charles takes over
That’s the problem with being happy to shed your principles in a heartbeat - they come catching you up.But he’s lying
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Starmer's rebranding of himself and the Labour Party as flag waving patriots who, like their lost Red Wall voters, "love their Queen and country", has hitorder-order.com
I saw a poll in either the Mail or the Express about who should be then next King - I’m not sure that’s how a monarchy works.Most recent poll on this went 61% to keep the monarchy, 24% for an elected head of state and 15% don't know. Support for the monarchy was proportional with age, unsurprisingly. Will be interesting to see how that changes as and when Charles takes over
That’s the problem with being happy to shed your principles in a heartbeat - they come catching you up.
It won’t change as oddly the young oriole get older and decide it’s hardly a big issue
How we select a head of state and what power they should have is hardly a big issue? If you're fine letting people have all this privilege and wealth by inheritance then fine but just be straight up about it.
I saw a poll in either the Mail or the Express about who should be then next King - I’m not sure that’s how a monarchy works.
It's funny that such publications make noise about 'privileged/cosmopolitan/snobby elites' while also bowing down to the last relic of feudalism
Well most people either don’t care or are perfectly happy with it.
its funny how some countries we are told are the happiest places to live in the world abs bastions of social democracy have a royal family
So what? Does it mean people who disagree should keep quiet?
In this country with a class system on steroids it serves quite a different purpose
They should honour the Queen in the best possible way by winding it all up after she has gone.
It’s more a case of SBT ahead of the curve. The popularity of the monarchy has been falling for years. Traditionally it sees an up turn in jubilee years. Not happened this year. The trend remains on a downward curve. It’s still above 50 % in favour but amongst younger adults the monarchy is about as popular as a fart at a funeral. Royalists are a dying breed and I can’t see the behaviour of Andrew and the Queen bailing him out garnering any favour with the more awake generations to reverse that. The monarchy isn’t going to survive another 70 years without a major reform.It will hardly change - William is equally as popular
SBT out of touch with public opinion reality shocker
No but I really don’t see why anyone would get so wound up by something that makes zero difference to their actual life - what’s it achieving - it doesn’t seem to making you happy
So you arent actually opposed then - just in the country you live in
Well most of the time it's something I'm opposed to but it's not a pressing issue. Then we have events like this where it's all over the place and you are made to feel like some kind of Lord Haw Haw for disagreeing. Or we have cases where a member of the royal family is bailed out of committing crimes which he was only able to carry out thanks to his privilege. It isn't right.
As a matter of principle I just think a head of state should have to earn the position. The arguments in favour of the monarchy are for the most part sentimental and helped by the class system
Hasn’t been for Boris Johnson. Flip flops constantlywell when you are a chameleon that changes opinions and colours to suit the latest trend it’s always going to be a problem
Hasn’t been for Boris Johnson. Flip flops constantly
It shouldn’t be a political issue. It becomes one due to the issue of class and unearned privilegePerhaps we should have a referendum on it. Where would labour stand on the issue?
So no president in the US have been bailed out for committing crimes?
Huh. Yeah ok. Vote for me I have no principles and will tell you what you want and do whatever I want. Such a nonsense!!im not actually joking but Boris Johnson doesn’t pretend to have long established principals and beliefs or even honesty
Starmer does and he has none does He?
I went to protest at the 2012 river show. We had secured a place that could hold thousands but the police only let in a few hundred despite the paperwork being done. No British media were there but plenty of foreign news outlets interviewing people.
As for this time around of course they put it in half term so no extra days off for the worship of Her Maj
It shouldn’t be a political issue. It becomes one due to the issue of class and unearned privilege
Huh. Yeah ok. Vote for me I have no principles and will tell you what you want and do whatever I want. Such a nonsense!!
Who knows - depends which focus group they speak to last.Perhaps we should have a referendum on it. Where would labour stand on the issue?
How many protesters were they expecting that day? It was one of the worst days of June weather I can remember!
Who knows - depends which focus group they speak to last.
If you are of the mind that worshipping a flag and a privileged family makes you a Patriot then that’s up to you.
Some people think that the idea of patriotism should be the notion that people are not left behind in your country.
I imagine a referendum on the monarchy would play out very similarly to the EU referendum, and what a time to be alive that was.
Who knows - depends which focus group they speak to last.
If you are of the mind that worshipping a flag and a privileged family makes you a Patriot then that’s up to you.
Some people think that the idea of patriotism should be the notion that people are not left behind in your country.
I imagine a referendum on the monarchy would play out very similarly to the EU referendum, and what a time to be alive that was.
Well actually Leave voters are especially pro monarchy. Fine with unelected officials as head of state, not fine with them in the EU.
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