Nick
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It wasn't racism, it was mocking your spelling ability. Get a grip.
fucking racism? seriously?
wow......just wow
So CBRE value ACL at 19.5m with the full lease and licence, at 8.4m with a rent of £200k and 6.5m with no rent at all.
January 2013 CCFC still had the original lease & licence in place.
Loan to value for the council should be 75%. Loan made was 14.4m which puts the value of ACL at £19.5m.
But according to SISU QC that over values ACL by 15m so they believe the value was 4.5m. Which is actually below CBRE's lowest value. But told charity it was worthless but prepared to pay £2m
none of this seems to join up
So CBRE value ACL at 19.5m with the full lease and licence, at 8.4m with a rent of £200k and 6.5m with no rent at all.
January 2013 CCFC still had the original lease & licence in place.
Loan to value for the council should be 75%. Loan made was 14.4m which puts the value of ACL at £19.5m.
But according to SISU QC that over values ACL by 15m so they believe the value was 4.5m. Which is actually below CBRE's lowest value. But told charity it was worthless but prepared to pay £2m
none of this seems to join up
It wasn't racism, it was mocking your spelling ability. Get a grip.
fucking racism? seriously?
wow......just wow
and a ukip jpeg sent to me via pm isnt racism?
Didn't say that. No idea what you're talking about.I think to be honest mate, most people didn't see what you did other than hold a protest against the council when the majority felt the ball wasn't in their court.
You claim you're the only one pressuring all sides, but I know for a fact that's bollocks as the Trust have been doing it since day 1, until the club stopped talking to them.
Woah there. What are you implying? Or are you one of the idiots who prefer your journalists to purely reflect your own limited knowledge and received wisdom rather than have someone who will challenge all sides and bring out new information? Have you forgotten all of the NOPM actions based on Les's reporting? The 'anti-Sisu' stories that forced Fisher & the Football League to admit errors & wrong-doing in accounts?You also hide your links to Reid, and by association Sisu,
Who still remains totally anonymous. Nothing wrong with me challenging his anonymity. Nice to see you being super-sensitive on behalf of another poster tho'.And that's before today's antics on this thread towards OSB.
It's a very strong claim and the fact that someone who subscribes to the GW Bush mantra of 'you're either with us or against us' sees it as weak actually strengthens it as far as I'm concerned. All sides are responsible for getting us into, and now out of this mess.The one thing that makes GCBTTR stand out from KCIC and SBT is the complete lack of transparency, the lack of fan engagement and the one sided protesting.
Can you really blame people if they don't think you're 100% balanced (in both senses of the word)? The weak claim of "Oh I'm filling gaps in the market" was never going to wash.
Ah yes. The guy who doesn't want to meet with anyone on the 'wrong side' is happy to accuse others of being to easily led and too stupid to put evidence together. *yawn*I'm sure you're a good bloke who's just taken his mate's word for a few things and been a willing pair of ears for some others, but surely you can see the mistakes you made if the aim was to move things forward? Or did you genuinely think more secrecy and division was the answer?
Press report on it then, otherwise stop talking rubbish and throwing the race card about every 5 minutes, it is boring and pointless as I am pretty sure 99% of people don't know your race (I know I don't).
but when it gets reactions like this from people who think i am serious, its so great!
but hey....ahem....its me who missed the point hahahahaha
No, people think you are chatting rubbish. Especially when you start throwing the race card about.
but those people are dumb
its clear he was ripping the piss out of my post
its just so easy for me to pull it back and make you look like fools and you dont like it.
lol racism my ass hahah
No, people think you are chatting rubbish. Especially when you start throwing the race card about.
To save me looking through the last 10 odd pages that I've missed while working, has sisu's QC finished? Is it CCC's turn tomorrow?
To save me looking through the last 10 odd pages that I've missed while working, has sisu's QC finished? Is it CCC's turn tomorrow?
but those people are dumb
its clear he was ripping the piss out of my post
its just so easy for me to pull it back and make you look like fools and you dont like it.
lol racism my ass hahah
Judge....
“ACL were in a commercial mess because the football club had not been paying the rent and licence fees it was bound legally to pay. It was trying to find a way out of that commercial mess.”
Judge says one of those ways was a deal with Sisu, one a deal with Yorkshire Bank and ACL was exploring both.
The judge added: "There were two commercial courses being pursued and it may have been necessary to keep one confidential from the other," before asking Sisu's QC: "are you saying there is anything wrong in that?"
"Yes," he replied. "The club was being funded when the council had no commitment to the project at all."
To save me looking through the last 10 odd pages that I've missed while working, has sisu's QC finished? Is it CCC's turn tomorrow?
Come of it, he is no better or worse than the trust - saying a pressure group run by an ex council leader is unbiased and transparent is laughable. The club stopped talking to the trust when is behaved like giddy schoolkids around haskell. They HAVE repaired some of this under their new leadership but are far from "transparent"
And when did talking to Reid become a thoughtcrime then? What has he actually done that winds you all up so much?
Not racism. Just a criticism of your understanding and use of the English language.
Oh, and another case of you completely missing Danceswithhorses' point.
I'm looking forward to tomorrow, am I sad ?
just means one day after that and it should be all over, bar the appeal
When this bombshell gets dropped tomorrow can someone in the public gallery play the dum da dum dum music that was used in the film dragnet. Someone needs to bring some entertainment to these proceedings.
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"Yes," he replied. "The club was being funded when the council had no commitment to the project at all."
'The judge interrupted him to ask if it mattered, saying: "Does it affect the issue of state aid?"'
Has anything we have heard today any bearing on the issue of state aid? It comes across as one big whinging session from SISU blaming everybody else for their own inability to strike a deal with other parties.
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And when did talking to Reid become a thoughtcrime then? What has he actually done that winds you all up so much?
I have not seen the full transcript of today and obviously there is more to come tomorrow but I can't help thinking surely there is more than this (I would guess I am not alone in that thought either)
I assume today was just scene setting for the main points to be made in the morning.
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