Just like to add my support to SkyblueKid. we'll see later this point is flawed
You cannot reason with people who refuse to address the points raised by those they disagree with, but instead
Resort to personal insults
Pick on subsidiary clauses not the main points raised ie. Keep changing the terms of debate and obscuring the main issues.
Infer opinions on others that they have not stated. says you? Refer back a bit to rejog your mind
See balanced, nuanced comments as betrayals to the cause of CCFC there're balanced? To ACL you mean?
Have entrenched opinions that no facts or valid counter arguments can lead them to question. many, many x10 are worst offenders, who would blame SISU for the ending of the world, and no, i dont think that's an exaggeration
No I was not supporting SBKid in his making of personal insults. Again, you have jumped to a wrong conclusion.
I was supporting his assertion that the moderator should be looking at bullying comments made on the forum.
Hypocrite means you say one thing and do another.
I think you meant selective ...A necessary skill in debating
You are ticking off all the items on my former list. Keep going.
Thank you Oakey, I thought for a millisecond that I might be wrong.
Valiant15....You see, what I see then m8
I've not come on forums to start rows, but I won't be talked down to, have sarcasm thrown at me, and have pricks(Yes pricks) talk to me how they are doing.
My biggest problem is...I bite back rather than let someone get away with it. As for you NICK...I'm very angry with your stance. Not for my sake, but others who take the shit from these arseholes, day in and day out, and nothing gets done about it.
Whether what I have to say on a post, people agree/disagree, all I ask is a little bit of respect, nothing more...nothing less.
Thank you Oakey, I thought for a millisecond that I might be wrong.
Valiant15....You see, what I see then m8
I've not come on forums to start rows, but I won't be talked down to, have sarcasm thrown at me, and have pricks(Yes pricks) talk to me how they are doing.
My biggest problem is...I bite back rather than let someone get away with it. As for you NICK...I'm very angry with your stance. Not for my sake, but others who take the shit from these arseholes,day in and day out, and nothing gets done about it.
Whether what I have to say on a post, people agree/disagree, all I ask is a little bit of respect, nothing more...nothing less.
Unlike you I don't go back and analyse every clause of your sentences to find a hint of an error. I try to deal with the main points raised and address them.
That is honest debate ... But I don't think you are into that.
This is great reading for a boring Sunday!
SBTaylor, I did not answer the points that you raised because they made no sense and avoid all the main points up for debate.
It is not sixth form debate club where the objectives are to try to catch people out, obscure the issue, pick on a minor inconsistency in an opponent's argument in order to score points.
These are not intellectually honest tactics. That is why a reasonable person refuses to debate with people who will not use the intellectually honest debating skills.
I have been a teacher for donkey's years and have taught debating skills. People that refuse to debate properly are barred from participating.
Unlike you I don't go back and analyse every clause of your sentences to find a hint of an error. I try to deal with the main points raised and address them.
That is honest debate ... But I don't think you are into that.
I hope you're not being &%@*$* sarcastic!!!!??
Thank you Oakey, I thought for a millisecond that I might be wrong.
Valiant15....You see, what I see then m8
I've not come on forums to start rows, but I won't be talked down to, have sarcasm thrown at me, and have pricks(Yes pricks) talk to me how they are doing.
My biggest problem is...I bite back rather than let someone get away with it. As for you NICK...I'm very angry with your stance. Not for my sake, but others who take the shit from these arseholes, day in and day out, and nothing gets done about it.
Whether what I have to say on a post, people agree/disagree, all I ask is a little bit of respect, nothing more...nothing less.
Torch, you are asking me to make personal remarks about another poster, which I don't want to do.
Let's just say, I understand SBKid's frustration which makes him resort to insults. I do not agree with that though.
He was definitely provoked, by the posters he named, and lost it. It is hard not to feel disrespected when other posters refuse to debate the main issues and, instead, infer on you opinions you don't have.
No, because you're not up to it, pal, so don't BS your way out, like you have done thus far, I've rose to your challenges, but you're better than me not to 'return fire', aren't you?
I don't think swearing or insulting someone is honest either, but, I swear you've just backed SBK? Or am I mistaken?
I often get patronised by Valiant, Clougie and SBK because of my age, don't see me complain, because they're out of their depth.
Torch, you are asking me to make personal remarks about another poster, which I don't want to do.
Let's just say, I understand SBKid's frustration which makes him resort to insults. I do not agree with that though.
He was definitely provoked, by the posters he named, and lost it. It is hard not to feel disrespected when other posters refuse to debate the main issues and, instead, infer on you opinions you don't have.
You do talk a lot of shit though
Torchy...You've got your little followers who hang on every sarcastic word that you spout.
OSB on another thread yesterday described your sarcasm as wit....Sorry OSB, sarcasm is NOT wit. It is not remotely funny.
Yet idiots like Torchy think that it is the ONLY form of wit.
What are you Torchy? 40 something going on 5?:facepalm:
What are you Torchy? 40 something going on 5?:facepalm:
SBTaylor, no doubt you can find an example of me making personal insults on those 3 posters?
I never said you have.
I think that's what you said in your post at 5:38. Happy to withdraw if mistaken?
Just to clarify, again.
SBKid lost it when 3 posters ganged up on him. I supported his view that the debate was not reasonable and moderation should weed out bullying tactics.
I did not support the way he expressed his frustration.
As a teacher I see this all the time.
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