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[letsallsingtogether]

So do we know the terms that were given by Sisu when they took over and do we know them now years later?

Who gives a fuck what the terms are as long as we get these leeches out of our club and our team back in Coventry.

impossible to do a shitter job then Sisu to be honest

 

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[wince]

Ermmm to know if it is a good deal or not before I can judge it? Would you want to know how much you were paying for your mortgage before agreeing it?

Why does anybody need to know the details of SISU's accounts? We had best stop telling OSB to look at them as we don't need to know.

If somebody put a thread on here about the shop manager moving jobs and it turns out he got a new job on double the money then yes, his wage would be relevant I guess.

WHAT has my mortgage got to do with watching football ? again if you dont no whats in the players contracts or how much we pay for grass seed at ryton , by your logic you can not get behind the team. seems you and a few others have argued yourselfs into a corner ,and now just have to argue for the sake of it

 

[letsallsingtogether]

That will be me then.

It's an acronym for a Wind Up Merchant..




See above..


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[Nick]

So do we know the terms that were given by Sisu when they took over and do we know them now years later?

Who gives a fuck what the terms are as long as we get these leeches out of our club and our team back in Coventry.

impossible to do a shitter job then Sisu to be honest

No I don't think we did know the terms then but i do know most were blindly backing that without much detail and look how that turned out.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

That will be me then.

You haven't wound me up for some time LAST so it wouldn't be right for me to comment..


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[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

No I don't think we did know the terms then but i do know most were blindly backing that without much detail and look how that turned out.

Just the way some are blindly backing them now.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

To be honest can't be bothered any more. I am only on here because I am bored and the World Cup has come to an end and I have yet to watch a full game.

You haven't wound me up for some time LAST so it wouldn't be right for me to comment..


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[Nick]

WHAT has my mortgage got to do with watching football ? again if you dont no whats in the players contracts or how much we pay for grass seed at ryton , by your logic you can not get behind the team. seems you and a few others have argued yourselfs into a corner ,and now just have to argue for the sake of it

I haven't argued myself into a corner though have I?

Should we stop looking at accounts and court documents then as they don't matter as they are nothing to do with us?

When have I said I can't get behind the team? I'm saying people can't judge this offer without knowing the details can they?

However, I'd be less inclined to get behind a player if I knew he was on a high wage and didn't give a shit.

Michael can demand answers from the club and other people and rant when he doesn't get them but then do exactly the same thing. Surely it should be saying an example on how to do things....

 

[RoboCCFC90]

To be honest can't be bothered any more. I am only on here because I am bored and the World Cup has come to an end and I have yet to watch a full game.

It's a shame, not just in terms of the forum, but City fans in general, who are starting to feel that way..


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[Nick]

Just the way some are blindly backing them now.

Who is backing them? It's funny that some of the people accused of backing them actually warned against them years ago.

Maybe if Mr Coventry had been more cynical and wanted more details he wouldn't have been driving round collecting shares from people.

 

[Nick]

It's a shame, not just in terms of the forum, but City fans in general, who are starting to feel that way..


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I don't even think it is just city fans

 

[wince]

I haven't argued myself into a corner though have I?

Should we stop looking at accounts and court documents then as they don't matter as they are nothing to do with us?

When have I said I can't get behind the team? I'm saying people can't judge this offer without knowing the details can they?

However, I'd be less inclined to get behind a player if I knew he was on a high wage and didn't give a shit.

Michael can demand answers from the club and other people and rant when he doesn't get them but then do exactly the same thing. Surely it should be saying an example on how to do things....

SO what deals that the club have done over the last few years have you demanded to see in full before you would back them , how did talking about players who dont give a shit get into this conversation

 

[italiahorse]

Don't get me wrong I think what Michael is trying to do is brilliant and Michael should be applauded, along with the local businesses that have dipped their hand in..

Problem is however, that let's say a 3 year deal is agreed between all the parties, but for whatever reason Sisu and ACL can't come to terms on a more permanent deal, then what?


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The stadium will be ready and we will have had 3 years in Coventry. The club would benefit financially and the fan base would be maintained.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

I don't even think it is just city fans

I think you could be right there Nick..


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[RoboCCFC90]

The stadium will be ready and we will have had 3 years in Coventry. The club would benefit financially and the fan base would be maintained.

You believe a new Stadium will be built, situated in Coventry and delivered in three seasons then Italia? You sure changed your tune...


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[Grendel]

Yes he did and presumably still is and I praised him for it both publicly on here and by way of PM's on here.

As a true fan of the club I praise anyone trying to do something to get us out of this mess. You like a true wum pick and choose based on your personal gripe with the council. If you can't use it as a vehicle to bash the council you're not interested.

So anyone on here who slagged rob Stevens off on here is a wum?

Jack griffin - is he a WUM?

 

[Kingokings204]

You believe a new Stadium will be built, situated in Coventry and delivered in three seasons then Italia? You sure changed your tune...


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A new stadium won't be built. Why do we even still mention this?

 

[italiahorse]

Who is backing them? It's funny that some of the people accused of backing them actually warned against them years ago.

Maybe if Mr Coventry had been more cynical and wanted more details he wouldn't have been driving round collecting shares from people.

You could say that by not criticising them you are backing them.
Or, you could say that by criticising people who are offering an alternative option that would scupper Sisu play for the Ricoh is backing them.
You could say that going to Sixfields is backing them.

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Who is backing them? It's funny that some of the people accused of backing them actually warned against them years ago.

Maybe if Mr Coventry had been more cynical and wanted more details he wouldn't have been driving round collecting shares from people.

Those same people who warned against them now want to give them everything,brilliant. Also to be quite clear I trust Elliott as much as I trust Sisu.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

A new stadium won't be built. Why do we even still mention this?

I never said it would be, ask Italia what made him change his tune..


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[italiahorse]

You believe a new Stadium will be built, situated in Coventry and delivered in three seasons then Italia? You sure changed your tune...


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No, but by Sisu saying that a new stadium is the plan, why would they not go for this idea?

 

[Nick]

I haven't argued myself into a corner though have I?

Should we stop looking at accounts and court documents then as they don't matter as they are nothing to do with us?

When have I said I can't get behind the team? I'm saying people can't judge this offer without knowing the details can they?

However, I'd be less inclined to get behind a player if I knew he was on a high wage and didn't give a shit.

Michael can demand answers from the club and other people and rant when he doesn't get them but then do exactly the same thing. Surely it should be saying an example on how to do things....

SO what deals that the club have done over the last few years have you demanded to see in full before you would back them , how did talking about players who dont give a shit get into this conversation

The same way as grass seed as you brought players contracts into it?

I have been posting about wanting to see the terms of all deals, the difference is the club haven't been running to the press after 2 days basically saying things are great deals.

Yes they are blagging about this amazing new stadium but if tim Fisher was posting how good it was on here I'd assume nobody would ask any questions about any of it would they?

Nobody is on here looking at accounts to try and see what's going on are they? Nobody is demanding answers from the club are they?

I would have just thought somebody so openly demanding answers to things like where has money from arsenal gone would show them how to do things properly.

 

[Nick]

I never said it would be, ask Italia what made him change his tune..


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It depends on the agenda that day. The same has ml only ever lies to fans but he once said one thing they can use in an argument so its gospel.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

No, but by Sisu saying thats the plan, why would they not go for it?

I don't think this discussion is necessary again is it ? I think most of us can agree that we don't see a stadium being built.. The reasons a return to the Ricoh should be negotiated is so that the Clubs long term future at the Stadium can't be guaranteed.


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[Grendel]

I never said it would be, ask Italia what made him change his tune..


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He often changes his tune. Used to suck the sisu cock daily - including when they didn't pay the rent. You'll never see one post from me saying well done sisu - Italia can't say the same.

I assume its why he's called Italia - changing sides to back the winning horse.

 

[Nick]

I don't think this discussion is necessary again is it ? I think most of us can agree that we don't see a stadium being built.. The reasons a return to the Ricoh should be negotiated is so that the Clubs long term future at the Stadium can't be guaranteed.


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This is my point, it needs to be done properly for the good of the club (not sisu) so that we never get in this situation again.

 

[The Gentleman]

Don't get me wrong I think what Michael is trying to do is brilliant and Michael should be applauded, along with the local businesses that have dipped their hand in..

Problem is however, that let's say a 3 year deal is agreed between all the parties, but for whatever reason Sisu and ACL can't come to terms on a more permanent deal, then what?


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Let me just flip your last question and ask you one before I answer it. What happens to CCFC if we have 3 more years at Sixfields?

If a 3 year deal is agreed between the parties then what we all get is to watch our team at HOME for 3 years which at present isn't likely now. If nothing is made permanent then we go back to Sixfields and then what have we lost? At the very least it gives 3 years to try and negotiate a deal, a chance to get back lost fans, a chance to build bridges, a chance for Sisu to cut their loses, a chance not to lose as much money/fans and finally as I said.......a chance to watch us at HOME again for 3 years

 

[The Gentleman]

I never said it would be, ask Italia what made him change his tune..


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I reckon Italia may have been a tad sarcastic but do you remember when you believed them about the new stadium...............

 

[wince]

The same way as grass seed as you brought players contracts into it

No i said what deals , weather it be players wages or the price of grass seed ,have you demand to know about before you can back the club , as you have said the only way you can back a deal to bring the club home is to no every part of it , sorry that just seems bizarre

 

[Grendel]

Let me just flip your last question and ask you one before I answer it. What happens to CCFC if we have 3 more years at Sixfields?

If a 3 year deal is agreed between the parties then what we all get is to watch our team at HOME for 3 years which at present isn't likely now. If nothing is made permanent then we go back to Sixfields and then what have we lost? At the very least it gives 3 years to try and negotiate a deal, a chance to get back lost fans, a chance to build bridges, a chance for Sisu to cut their loses, a chance not to lose as much money/fans and finally as I said.......a chance to watch us at HOME again for 3 years

Has Michael obtained football league approval for a 3 year deal I'm the actual city boundaries? The rules state 10 years. I assume he has - perhaps he can share the correspondence with the Football League.

 

[italiahorse]

A new stadium won't be built. Why do we even still mention this?

We all know that, but if Sisu are still saying the stadium is the plan they surely would snap up someones offer of free rent and match charges for 3 years.
Why would anyone not take it and then take the income from 5000 fans paying double the Sixfields charges, plus sponsors, maintained fan base etc etc?

If the new stadium is bullshit they will have to reject this and it will be seen by all. Which may be the intention of the offer.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Let me just flip your last question and ask you one before I answer it. What happens to CCFC if we have 3 more years at Sixfields?

If a 3 year deal is agreed between the parties then what we all get is to watch our team at HOME for 3 years which at present isn't likely now. If nothing is made permanent then we go back to Sixfields and then what have we lost? At the very least it gives 3 years to try and negotiate a deal, a chance to get back lost fans, a chance to build bridges, a chance for Sisu to cut their loses, a chance not to lose as much money/fans and finally as I said.......a chance to watch us at HOME again for 3 years

There is no doubt that the affects of CCFC playing at Sixfields would not just financially insufficient compared to the same time period at the Ricoh but it may also have a detrimental affect on the fan base, past, present and the future..

The problem is we are discussing this option like this is the answer to all our problems , but there are no guarantees, but I hope to be proven wrong..


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[RoboCCFC90]

I reckon Italia may have been a tad sarcastic but do you remember when you believed them about the new stadium...............

I did keep an open mind about it, I won't deny that but I must admit I have found my own reasons to doubt it since..


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[letsallsingtogether]

Come on Nick do you remember when we went to the mini forum we were bored shitless with all that accounts rubbish,

Leave that to the people it affects sisu and Michaels backer.

FFS you don't even hear what a player sells for half the time these days that how it is in football.

I haven't argued myself into a corner though have I?

Should we stop looking at accounts and court documents then as they don't matter as they are nothing to do with us?

When have I said I can't get behind the team? I'm saying people can't judge this offer without knowing the details can they?

However, I'd be less inclined to get behind a player if I knew he was on a high wage and didn't give a shit.

Michael can demand answers from the club and other people and rant when he doesn't get them but then do exactly the same thing. Surely it should be saying an example on how to do things....

 

[The Gentleman]

Has Michael obtained football league approval for a 3 year deal I'm the actual city boundaries? The rules state 10 years. I assume he has - perhaps he can share the correspondence with the Football League.

I'm only speaking hypothetically here Grendel but if this got the parties speaking or Sisu/Otium more open to a return to the Ricoh (even if it was temporary) then would you say well done to Michael?