And who will get penalised, the invaders and the club!I honestly think next time it happens we should invade the pitch.
I bet itsthe last time it happens.
Get Norman to do it he will react badly to being pushed away and he seems to be quite good at winding opposition players up to assault him. He is also lightweight enough to fall as if poleaxed by a mild shove without it appearing to be overt simulation.I'm for the players having to stand in the circle whilst the injured player is treated, it's the easiest and quickest solution to the coaching issue.
In the meantime, until the rules are changed, I'd be telling my team to go and stand right next to their coaching area, on the pitch, en masse.
There's no rule that says only their players can stand by their coach - the only rules I'm aware of are that players can't leave the pitch without permission, and coaches must remain within the coaching area. The ref and fourth official had no business getting involved with Thomas - he can stand where he likes on the pitch, anyone trying to move him by force should've been cautioned.
The other thing I'd do, right now, is get a fuck off big speaker by our coaching area, and get it cranked up to full blast when they're doing their illicit time out so that they can't hear each other.
Again, the game's stopped, I can't see that the ref could do anything about it. There's more than one way to deal with this load of cheating bollocks...
We’ve done it ourselves as well.The fact it keeps happening to City shows the coaches must be doing something right.
They are currently looking at it. It’s been mentioned that a corner kick will be awarded if the referee deems that the keeper is feigning injury.
No way of proving that. Terrible idea for a solution.
I thought that was for the keeper holding on to the ball for 6+ seconds?They are currently looking at it. It’s been mentioned that a corner kick will be awarded if the referee deems that the keeper is feigning injury.
8+ seconds is what is being discussed now, no idea why they don't enforce the law that is already in place...I thought that was for the keeper holding on to the ball for 6+ seconds?
100% - I really don’t understand why referees can’t see through the blatant play acting. In rugby, the game playing on just makes sense. There’s no incentive for players to not stay on the floor in football because the referee will often stop an opposition attack for treatment.8+ seconds is what is being discussed now, no idea why they don't enforce the law that is already in place...
The referees just need to grow a pair, there is no requirement for them to stop play unless it's a head injury. Why are they letting the players dictate the stoppages in the game?
Can you be a bit more pacific ?What the Hull players were saying was leaving Thomas on tender hooks
They do that in rugby and there are some v suspect decisions made, there are occasions where a player can have a nasty head collision and somehow pass the concussion protocols but be subbed off shortly anyway because they’re clearly not right.Why can’t an independent medical assessor go on to the pitch first to decide whether the ‘injured’ player needs the team physio to go on, and stays in attendance to ensure that no coaching takes place?
This is incorrect. It is any injury that the referee deems 'serious'. The common misconception comes from that when referees go through training (or at least used to) we are told that all head injuries should be treated as serious. So all head injuries should lead to a stoppage but play should also stop for everything else refs deem serious.8+ seconds is what is being discussed now, no idea why they don't enforce the law that is already in place...
The referees just need to grow a pair, there is no requirement for them to stop play unless it's a head injury. Why are they letting the players dictate the stoppages in the game?
How would that work?Why can’t an independent medical assessor go on to the pitch first to decide whether the ‘injured’ player needs the team physio to go on, and stays in attendance to ensure that no coaching takes place?
Better still, make them wear one of these...How would that work?
Keeper: It's really painful there (points at his foot)
Assessor: No, It's not. I don't believe you.
Or just say it's your back. GP's can do nothing about it, so neither will an assessor.
Anyway, I have the best idea. When a keeper goes down, attend to him, give him a quick sponge and then make him wear a neck brace for the rest of the game
Agreed.100% - I really don’t understand why referees can’t see through the blatant play acting. In rugby, the game playing on just makes sense. There’s no incentive for players to not stay on the floor in football because the referee will often stop an opposition attack for treatment.
The amount of time wasted in football matches is becoming a problem. We don’t pay £30 a ticket or whatever it is to watch players receive treatment for 10-20m of the match. The other day v Cardiff, about a third of stoppage time was their player receiving treatment.
Fair enough, I didn't realise that but it's all semantics isn't it? We can all see that these stoppages aren't for serious injuries can't we?This is incorrect. It is any injury that the referee deems 'serious'. The common misconception comes from that when referees go through training (or at least used to) we are told that all head injuries should be treated as serious. So all head injuries should lead to a stoppage but play should also stop for everything else refs deem serious.
Referees don't want to be the one that if they don't stop play there is actually something seriously medically wrong and they played on for another minute.
But something more definitely needs to be done in general with it, but don't think there are easy solutions.
I like that. The obvious issue is leaving it to the referees discretion. I would go one further and say if the keeper needs medical attention then unless it's an obvious injury like a break, blood or he has to come off, then the next phase of play is a corner.They are currently looking at it. It’s been mentioned that a corner kick will be awarded if the referee deems that the keeper is feigning injury.
At that point the ref should have just started the game. If they're not ready its their own faultThe most annoying part on Saturday was the keeper and us were all ready to kick off, all the Hull players still over on touch line, should be made to restart or book the lot for timewasting!
Subsitite keeper/player comes on immediately and the game restarts. Substitute keeper/player must remain in goal for at least 5 minutes to ensure origainal keeper is fit to continue. Can swap to original keeper any time after the 5 minutes. Minimum of 2 x 30 seconds added time.
Wright got booked but he was actually injured and was out for a few weeks.They've started doing it with outfield players now too though just before subs going to be made. Player going off sits down and puts his hand up ref stops play. *cramp*. 5 minute stoppage-water-instructions then sub made. Teams will always find a way round the rules
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