How on earth is any foul cheating? What a load of nonsense. Ha!!But then any foul committed is cheating.
Look at 87 - Kilcline almost karate chopped one of their players. In a highly amusing article I think in the guardian he said the ref came over to him and said “what the fuck was that don’t do it again for Christ sake”
Winners have iron men who by your definition cheat - it’s really playing the system to maximum advantage.
Leeds in the 70’s
Man Utd In the Keane years
West Ham we’re succesful when they didn’t play the West Ham way but has Dicks and Ince kicking lumps out of opponents.
Last night though we set out to win the game by playing good football. They seemed more interested in stopping us by any means.Otis you have been given many examples of cov doing same thing
Notts county are not so much worse that deserve to be called cheaters
We have played awful football this season too
Playing pretty doesnt make yiu better and doesnt mean yiu deserve to get promoted
They dont deserve flaxk because they came with a plan to be direct .
How on earth is any foul cheating? What a load of nonsense. Ha!!
So a genuine attempt for the ball, but the player just mistimes it and catches their player is cheating? A player tries to clear the ball, but catches the opposition player with his boot is cheating?
Okay.
This conversation ends here then.
Nope and I hate that term with a passion 'take one for the team' I really do.So on Friday if we are one nil up in the last 10 seconds of injury time and one if their forwards is behind the defence and in on goal but outside the area you wouldn’t want Burge to just lunge at him and take him out the game and take a red card for the team?
Nope and I hate that term with a passion 'take one for the team' I really do.
Seems to have become part and parcel of football and it needs wiping out from the game.
NOT keenHe's an Allardyce clone. Long-ball and a bit thuggish tbh. ot keen.
I understand why it happens and I understand Doyle's value to the team and why we need players like that these days, doesn't mean I have to like it though.Surely the pragmatist in you sees the utility of being cynical? We have Doyle in our team!
An extreme example of ‘taking one for the team’ is Suarez in the 2010 World Cup, saves a shot (that would’ve been a goal) with his hands to deny Ghana a winner. Gets a red card and Uruguay win in penalties. It was a disgrace, to the neutral, but, would I complain if we did that to win on Friday? Or England did that to get to the semi-finals of the World Cup? No I would not.
The reason diving is so rampant in football, is because there’s no deterrent against diving. Let’s take our penalty last night, Bayliss at worst, dived, at best, went down very easily. There’s three outcomes; he gets a yellow card for diving, he gets a penalty or play continues. Players hardly get booked for diving so there’s all the incentive to dive cynically in the chance you’ll win a penalty.
How on earth is any foul cheating? What a load of nonsense. Ha!!
So a genuine attempt for the ball, but the player just mistimes it and catches their player is cheating? A player tries to clear the ball, but catches the opposition player with his boot is cheating?
Okay.
This conversation ends here then.
How did nolan cheat?
P.s learn to spell
I understand why it happens and I understand Doyle's value to the team and why we need players like that these days, doesn't mean I have to like it though.
I don't like to see any diving in the game, so no, I don't want to see the City do it and I don't want to see England do it either.
It needs to be stamped out. If all incidents were looked at retrospectively and 3 game bans were handed out to anyone caught deliberately diving, then it would be wiped out from the game.
Omg thought you of all people would get the jokeHAHA! Where do you start?
Challenge on McNulty was a hard one. There was no way he was feigning injury. He was really hurt.Doyle cons refs and chips away all the time. McNulty got a guy sent off the other week when it looked like he’d been shot by a sniper. The challenge was very mild.
Nice teams win nothing. It makes me laugh when people talk about Arsenal. They were at their most successful when Vierra and Petit were in the Middle field and would kick hit or stamp on anything that moved.
Did I really see a post from you earlier telling Otis to learn to spell, or have I had far too much to drink?No thats nothing to do with what you said. You called them cheaters. Not hoof ball merchsnts.
We r soft. Doesnt mean anyone eho isnt are cheaters
Bad manFC United?
Challenge on McNulty was a hard one. There was no way he was feigning injury. He was really hurt.
Omg thought you of all people would get the joke
He was off the field for several minutes. The injury seemed to have an effect on him for the rest of the game.He was running around two minutes later
Sometimes his posts are okay I suppose. Just on occasion.Cant stand him, delusional blinkered shite.
The refs that are on BT Sport often say players should go down 'if he had gone down it would have been a pen'. If that's what the refs are saying how can you expect players to try and stay on their feet.Players now do go down whenever there is contact, at all levels.
It's all gone to pot and needs a massive overhaul.The refs that are on BT Sport often say players should go down 'if he had gone down it would have been a pen'. If that's what the refs are saying how can you expect players to try and stay on their feet.
It's all gone to pot and needs a massive overhaul.
Have to say I do have a lot of sympathy these days with refs.
Agree. They are under so much pressure these days mind, what with players surrounding them and managers going beserk on the touchline and the TV experts ripping them apart on the minutest detail.the refs in this league have been shocking. I can handle them making mistakes but the inconsistency is off the scale.
If the fouls in L2 were punished to the same standard as the Premiership there'd be at least one red every match.
Up until his injury Jones was getting assaulted every game.
The refs that are on BT Sport often say players should go down 'if he had gone down it would have been a pen'. If that's what the refs are saying how can you expect players to try and stay on their feet.
So on Friday if we are one nil up in the last 10 seconds of injury time and one if their forwards is behind the defence and in on goal but outside the area you wouldn’t want Burge to just lunge at him and take him out the game and take a red card for the team?
YEp me too. Reffed for about 10 years great fun but also so lonely on the pitch.
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Me too. Best seat in the house though.
Frustrated though when 'colleagues' standard is poor, inconsistent and sometimes actual ignorance of the laws of the game. That is why I started reffing in the first place. You cannot complain if you are not prepared to do it yourself, something many on here ought to contemplate.
It's those brain surgeons I can't stand, they don't have a clue. Draft me in after a beer to steady my hand.so you only complain about things you do yourself? You never groan about MPs, your GP, the police etc?
Maybe he's been all those. Plus also a bus driver, dentist, airline pilot, engineer, nuclear physicist and secret service spy.so you only complain about things you do yourself? You never groan about MPs, your GP, the police etc?
Maybe he's been all those. Plus also a bus driver, surgeon, airline pilot and secret service spy.
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