Match Thread Leeds United - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 28th Sep (17 Viewers)

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I'd still like to see the Venn diagram of people who are already writing off EMC and those who wrote Wright off last season.

I thought Wright would be ok this bloke is fucking useless he doesn’t have a single attribute that makes you think he will be a success.

 

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[Terry Gibson's perm]

Agree about the first 2 but I think EMC will come good.
Doesn't help him keep being played on the left which it looked as though Robins had stopped doing but he clearly wanted to send Wright a message today.

I thought he was supposed to play on the left.

 

[Skybluekyle]

If this is to be his final outings, MR deserves so much better....

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I don't understand. I thought now we had our 25 million pound midfielder back in the team that we would dominate... Whoops.

Overloaded in attacking positions, but still play a defender on the wing, and shoehorn Latibeaudiere into the team. Just shite.

 

[fernandopartridge]

What's the Head of Performance's KPIs? We've not got a single player bar maybe Eccles who's performance levels have improved, most are in decline

 

[Saddlebrains]

Having player have a go at each other on the pitch tends to be a sign all is not right in the camp.

Something has changed for the worse.

Happened for a few weeks now aswell

 

[Ian1779]

We’ve had 7 years of continued success under Robins. He’s earned the right to have a real wobble.

If he’s had a close bereavement like has been said on here, maybe he needs a break away, but again he’s enough credit in the bank to do that and then come back in.

 

[clint van damme]

I thought he was supposed to play on the left.

You're correct. It's the right he's stopped playing him on.
I still think he'll come good with a run there

 

[SeshMouseSkyBlue]

What’s robins said in his interview?

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

What’s robins said in his interview?

Probably say looking to get through to the next international break as this group need a break.

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

What’s robins said in his interview?

Players have lost confidence.

We need to win against Blackburn

Our fans our great

 

[Diogenes]

What’s robins said in his interview?

Said that the way it's going is "unsustainable" and "totally gets why people are frustrated".

Sheaf in his interview said that he felt good but he isn't match fit yet.

 

[Nick]

Agree about the first 2 but I think EMC will come good.
Doesn't help him keep being played on the left which it looked as though Robins had stopped doing but he clearly wanted to send Wright a message today.

He is a left winger

 

[Houchens Head]

You're only 10 years old?

Beat me to it!

 

[Saddlebrains]

Leeds played really well. We were poor ( first half in particular) Next 2 home games, we really need to win one of them. Only positives for me today, Sakamoto looking fitter, Sheaf not injured.Also our fans cheering 90 yo Leeds lady. Well done SBA

Seeing this a lot

Let's be honest we need to win both

Yes, neither of them are push overs but it's fucking Blackburn and Sheffield Wednesday at home

 

[robbiethemole]

Too many new coaches/ back room too soon, too many different opinions/ messages, = player confusion, no game plan, total fuck up.

 

[Macca]

He would definitely make the change if he saw fit

The problem is awful recruitment, new manager can't do anything until January

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Too many new coaches/ back room too soon, too many different opinions/ messages, = player confusion, no game plan, total fuck up.

And this becomes the manager issue… if he’s being overruled and undermined it shows lack of control.

 

[Deity]

Players having a go at each other on the pitch happens all the time. Most successful teams have a bit of that about them.

I’ve played in a tonne of teams where it happened, sometimes between best mates.

What ever our issues are this isn’t one of them.

 

[Chris1987]

Too many new coaches/ back room too soon, too many different opinions/ messages, = player confusion, no game plan, total fuck up.

Agree completely. Confuses MR too who really needs to take control . Or was that AV ?

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

well he can’t be fucking injured can be cause he’s on the bench

robins has lost the fucking plot

Yeah and That Dum Wit Clive Eakin, in the Post Match Interview Never Asked Why He Dropped Him

 

[wingy]

Ahem. The one in goal is the chosen one?

Players have lost confidence.

We need to win against Blackburn

Our fans our great

More detailed than that lots more!

 

[wingy]

Get Burroughs back blood Kai and get Some Coventry in there!

 

[Chris1987]

One major difference this season is that teams spirit appears to be very low. Even when we were terrible at Rotherham and Preston last year the players never seemed to give up and even though the system wasn't working they stuck to it . Granted it was dire stuff but this lot frequently look like they can't be arsed and often don't seem to know what they're supposed to be doing tactically. I can only conclude that this has to be down to coaching . Does anyone really know what our game plan is ? Half of Is the time I haven't got a clue and some of the gaps that appear in midfield and defence are alarming. Is there any other side that defend defensive free kicks with every player behind the ball ?

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Sounds like the squad need a bit of running non stop for the next week to wake them up a bit.

Robins Will Probably Give Them 2 days Off.

 

[Paxman II]

That was a very poor showing again today. Now we all know the players to improve matters are there. Expectation has been high but even the media had us down as contenders, so tbf we should be doing much, much better. There have been moments in games where we see what they are capable of but they seem to be flashes of good play that on a given day teams can do. Our issue is not so much a slow start but more a concerning start this time. There have been a lot of changes around the club and new players. But last years top two scorers have not shown upyet? Service to them has been sparce to say the least, so I don't put blame on them. Team selections have been somewhat strange at times. Bassette is a raw talent from French 2nd division and I'm sure was bought for development, yet he has had starts. Injuries are a worry, but that can be down to several factors as with the style and implementation of the play. AND that rest primarily with MR's and his new coaches. So yes it's time to point a finger firmly in that direction. Those changes after Vivash departed look to be a wrong choice. MR's must address this quickly. Secondly, the players we have in this 'deeper' squad all want to play, but you can't please everyone. We are not Man City dropping Grealish one week and playing the next. We must find our core side as the first pick and others must earn the right to be considered. Midfield has been staring us in the face in all 7 games for lack of a 4th man in there. We have not yet controlled one game. Even Oxford outplayed us in there while we some how won. We lost playmakers in O'Hare (big mistake to let him go to a rival) and Palmer who was showing in glimpses what he brought to the balance of the side. Torp is clearly a talent but needs game time and on the evidence he and Rudoni both would benefit from some nurtured coaching ala Vivash me thinks. Yes it's silly to harp on about Vivash but if the current situation continues the clear evidence is there from the training ground and we are in danger of losing the dressing room which has been on sucvh a high the last couple of seasons. So what's the dynamic affecting it? Can't be MR's as he has been magnificent since he returned. But it's on him to sort it and if that means tough decisions then so be it. These players should be challenging at the top end. I hear you say only 7 games in but there has been little in our style of play to indicate it will suddenly 'click' and get markedly better. A whole week to prepare for this game and yet we looked like we hadn't touched the training ground. Injuries are far too common and once players start arguing with each other on the pitch, like today, then it's time to have a sit down and make the changes that will give new impetus. I'm confident that will happen, but it must be now before the confidence in what we said the season could be drains away from the team and the club as a whole.
Sorry for the rant but it's such an annoyance now. Blackburn will clearly fancy continuing their good start. We have a chance to come out and put things right.

 

[wingy]

Robins Will Probably Give Them 2 days Off.

It's the new way apparently!

 

[Ashdown]

Get Burroughs back blood Kai and get Some Coventry in there!

The only positive in Cov today mate , came at the BPA where the Blue and Whites spanked Bedford.

 

[robbiethemole]

Too many iPads and notebooks but the game isn’t played in virtual reality, Robins should fuck them off and choose one as No 2 and take back control.

 

[pusbccfc]

One major difference this season is that teams spirit appears to be very low. Even when we were terrible at Rotherham and Preston last year the players never seemed to give up and even though the system wasn't working they stuck to it . Granted it was dire stuff but this lot frequently look like they can't be arsed and often don't seem to know what they're supposed to be doing tactically. I can only conclude that this has to be down to coaching . Does anyone really know what our game plan is ? Half of Is the time I haven't got a clue and some of the gaps that appear in midfield and defence are alarming. Is there any other side that defend defensive free kicks with every player behind the ball ?

I'm not convinced that's true to be honest. The players looked completely lost and we're getting slated by the away end at Rotherham.

Today was no different to last October/Early November.

Let's not forget, we ended a 4 game losing streak in November against Stoke last season and we're a point or so above the relegation zone.

It's infuriating that we've started the season in the same manner.

 

[wingy]

That was a very poor showing again today. Now we all know the players to improve matters are there. Expectation has been high but even the media had us down as contenders, so tbf we should be doing much, much better. There have been moments in games where we see what they are capable of but they seem to be flashes of good play that on a given day teams can do. Our issue is not so much a slow start but more a concerning start this time. There have been a lot of changes around the club and new players. But last years top two scorers have not shown upyet? Service to them has been sparce to say the least, so I don't put blame on them. Team selections have been somewhat strange at times. Bassette is a raw talent from French 2nd division and I'm sure was bought for development, yet he has had starts. Injuries are a worry, but that can be down to several factors as with the style and implementation of the play. AND that rest primarily with MR's and his new coaches. So yes it's time to point a finger firmly in that direction. Those changes after Vivash departed look to be a wrong choice. MR's must address this quickly. Secondly, the players we have in this 'deeper' squad all want to play, but you can't please everyone. We are not Man City dropping Grealish one week and playing the next. We must find our core side as the first pick and others must earn the right to be considered. Midfield has been staring us in the face in all 7 games for lack of a 4th man in there. We have not yet controlled one game. Even Oxford outplayed us in there while we some how won. We lost playmakers in O'Hare (big mistake to let him go to a rival) and Palmer who was showing in glimpses what he brought to the balance of the side. Torp is clearly a talent but needs game time and on the evidence he and Rudoni both would benefit from some nurtured coaching ala Vivash me thinks. Yes it's silly to harp on about Vivash but if the current situation continues the clear evidence is there from the training ground and we are in danger of losing the dressing room which has been on sucvh a high the last couple of seasons. So what's the dynamic affecting it? Can't be MR's as he has been magnificent since he returned. But it's on him to sort it and if that means tough decisions then so be it. These players should be challenging at the top end. I hear you say only 7 games in but there has been little in our style of play to indicate it willg suddenly 'click' and get markedly better. A whole week to prepare for this game and yet we looked like we hadn't touched the training ground. Injuries are far too common and once players start arguing with each other on the pitch, like today, then it's time to have a sit down and make the changes that will give new impetus. I'm confident that will happen, but it must be now before the confidence in what we said the season could be drains away from the team and the club as a whole.
Sorry for the rant but it's such an annoyance now. Blackburn will clearly fancy continuing their good start. We have a chance to come out and put things right.

Very good analysis IMO!

 

[wingy]

The only positive in Cov today mate , came at the BPA where the Blue and Whites spanked Bedford.

I nearly went oh well!

 

[Chris1987]

That was a very poor showing again today. Now we all know the players to improve matters are there. Expectation has been high but even the media had us down as contenders, so tbf we should be doing much, much better. There have been moments in games where we see what they are capable of but they seem to be flashes of good play that on a given day teams can do. Our issue is not so much a slow start but more a concerning start this time. There have been a lot of changes around the club and new players. But last years top two scorers have not shown upyet? Service to them has been sparce to say the least, so I don't put blame on them. Team selections have been somewhat strange at times. Bassette is a raw talent from French 2nd division and I'm sure was bought for development, yet he has had starts. Injuries are a worry, but that can be down to several factors as with the style and implementation of the play. AND that rest primarily with MR's and his new coaches. So yes it's time to point a finger firmly in that direction. Those changes after Vivash departed look to be a wrong choice. MR's must address this quickly. Secondly, the players we have in this 'deeper' squad all want to play, but you can't please everyone. We are not Man City dropping Grealish one week and playing the next. We must find our core side as the first pick and others must earn the right to be considered. Midfield has been staring us in the face in all 7 games for lack of a 4th man in there. We have not yet controlled one game. Even Oxford outplayed us in there while we some how won. We lost playmakers in O'Hare (big mistake to let him go to a rival) and Palmer who was showing in glimpses what he brought to the balance of the side. Torp is clearly a talent but needs game time and on the evidence he and Rudoni both would benefit from some nurtured coaching ala Vivash me thinks. Yes it's silly to harp on about Vivash but if the current situation continues the clear evidence is there from the training ground and we are in danger of losing the dressing room which has been on sucvh a high the last couple of seasons. So what's the dynamic affecting it? Can't be MR's as he has been magnificent since he returned. But it's on him to sort it and if that means tough decisions then so be it. These players should be challenging at the top end. I hear you say only 7 games in but there has been little in our style of play to indicate it will suddenly 'click' and get markedly better. A whole week to prepare for this game and yet we looked like we hadn't touched the training ground. Injuries are far too common and once players start arguing with each other on the pitch, like today, then it's time to have a sit down and make the changes that will give new impetus. I'm confident that will happen, but it must be now before the confidence in what we said the season could be drains away from the team and the club as a whole.
Sorry for the rant but it's such an annoyance now. Blackburn will clearly fancy continuing their good start. We have a chance to come out and put things right.

The thing that concerns me is the amount of money invested in this lot. They have to start showing their worth or resale values will plummet and we will be back shopping at Lidl. Or is that necessarily a bad thing ?

 

[EalingSB]

We are hugely lacking experience and leadership. Isn’t the oldest player in the team about 26 (apart from Wilson)? A lot is said about the coaches but I’m not sure who Robins turns to on the pitch.

 

[lord_garrincha]

That was a very poor showing again today. Now we all know the players to improve matters are there. Expectation has been high but even the media had us down as contenders, so tbf we should be doing much, much better. There have been moments in games where we see what they are capable of but they seem to be flashes of good play that on a given day teams can do. Our issue is not so much a slow start but more a concerning start this time. There have been a lot of changes around the club and new players. But last years top two scorers have not shown upyet? Service to them has been sparce to say the least, so I don't put blame on them. Team selections have been somewhat strange at times. Bassette is a raw talent from French 2nd division and I'm sure was bought for development, yet he has had starts. Injuries are a worry, but that can be down to several factors as with the style and implementation of the play. AND that rest primarily with MR's and his new coaches. So yes it's time to point a finger firmly in that direction. Those changes after Vivash departed look to be a wrong choice. MR's must address this quickly. Secondly, the players we have in this 'deeper' squad all want to play, but you can't please everyone. We are not Man City dropping Grealish one week and playing the next. We must find our core side as the first pick and others must earn the right to be considered. Midfield has been staring us in the face in all 7 games for lack of a 4th man in there. We have not yet controlled one game. Even Oxford outplayed us in there while we some how won. We lost playmakers in O'Hare (big mistake to let him go to a rival) and Palmer who was showing in glimpses what he brought to the balance of the side. Torp is clearly a talent but needs game time and on the evidence he and Rudoni both would benefit from some nurtured coaching ala Vivash me thinks. Yes it's silly to harp on about Vivash but if the current situation continues the clear evidence is there from the training ground and we are in danger of losing the dressing room which has been on sucvh a high the last couple of seasons. So what's the dynamic affecting it? Can't be MR's as he has been magnificent since he returned. But it's on him to sort it and if that means tough decisions then so be it. These players should be challenging at the top end. I hear you say only 7 games in but there has been little in our style of play to indicate it will suddenly 'click' and get markedly better. A whole week to prepare for this game and yet we looked like we hadn't touched the training ground. Injuries are far too common and once players start arguing with each other on the pitch, like today, then it's time to have a sit down and make the changes that will give new impetus. I'm confident that will happen, but it must be now before the confidence in what we said the season could be drains away from the team and the club as a whole.
Sorry for the rant but it's such an annoyance now. Blackburn will clearly fancy continuing their good start. We have a chance to come out and put things right.

I await the 2nd paragraph with interest.