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Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 17, 2016

stupot07 said:
No, but the Huth appeal should have been given

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Huth gets away with it every time though so a bit of justice, the ref was so bad if he was cheating you wouldn't know which way. I had back the hammers to win today so doubly gutted.

The best bit of the game was when creswell was time wasting at the end and the Leicester fans were going mad do they not watch their own team

covmark · Apr 17, 2016

If he gives the one against Morgan he should give them all. Would have been 5 pens apiece. Goes on all the time.
The Carroll one is a shocking decision tbf.

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Otis · Apr 17, 2016

I didn't think the ref was too bad. The Vardy one he definitely made a meal of and went for the dying swan competition. Rightly a yellow card.

The Morgan one a clear foul and clear pen. Thing is, the ref had warned them, so they can have no excuses. The Huth one should have been a pen, but the Carroll one clearly wasn't.

A couple of wrong decisions there by the ref, but he also got a lot right too.

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 17, 2016

Otis said:
I didn't think the ref was too bad. The Vardy one he definitely made a meal of and went for the dying swan competition. Rightly a yellow card.

The Morgan one a clear foul and clear pen. Thing is, the ref had warned them, so they can have no excuses. The Huth one should have been a pen, but the Carroll one clearly wasn't.

A couple of wrong decisions there by the ref, but he also got a lot right too.

Otis have you been out to dinner with Clive Eakin backing the refs

Otis · Apr 17, 2016

I hope Spurs win it. The more I think about it, the more I want Spurs to win. Think they are the better footballing side and besides, I remember when Blackburn won the league all those years back.

The next season there were an awful lot of local kids in the stands wearing Blackburn shirts when we played them.

Transpose that to Leicester fans. Dare say if they win the league we could well lose a lot of the young fans getting into football in this city who may well start to go and support Leicester instead and can you imagine Coventry City centre with loads of kids wearing Leicester tops?

As I say it happened with Blackburn. With many young kids they can have a first and second team, i.e. Man U and City, or Liverpool and City, or Chelsea and City. With Leicester being so close (22 miles away) it could make it so much worse in terms of out getting kids up to the Ricoh.

Love an underdog to do well, but Leicester is just a bit too close to home in many ways and I would love Spurs to do it, as they play football in the right way and are good on the eye too.

fernandopartridge · Apr 17, 2016

No. I don't want them to win. They're not self made plucky underdogs. They're part of the rich football elite and it looks like they defrauded FFP to get out of the Championship.

Otis · Apr 17, 2016

Terry Gibson's perm said:
Otis have you been out to dinner with Clive Eakin backing the refs

I might have done. Is he a veggie or vegan?

If it's the latter I may have seen him at the all you can eat Lentil Emporium buffet.

He certainly had his finger on the pulse that night.

Hobo · Apr 17, 2016

fernandopartridge said:
No. I don't want them to win. They're not self made plucky underdogs. They're part of the rich football elite and it looks like they defrauded FFP to get out of the Championship.

Yes. But the fans are just Leicester fans like Coventry are Coventry fans. If their owners had taken over Coventry you would not be sat there saying you hope we don't win it. If your feelings are that strong you would have walked away from football. I hope Leicester win it for the fans that have stuck by them and the owners in fairness have treated them well.

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 17, 2016

Hobo said:
Yes. But the fans are just Leicester fans like Coventry are Coventry fans. If their owners had taken over Coventry you would not be sat there saying you hope we don't win it. If your feelings are that strong you would have walked away from football. I hope Leicester win it for the fans that have stuck by them and the owners in fairness have treated them well.

but I doubt many of their fans would be wanting us to win it if it was the other way round.

Sick Boy · Apr 17, 2016

fernandopartridge said:
No. I don't want them to win. They're not self made plucky underdogs. They're part of the rich football elite and it looks like they defrauded FFP to get out of the Championship.

Completely agree, they cheated their way yet again and spent big to get there. Their forum is ridiculous as well, some of them were claiming today's referee was from London and supports Spurs, when reality he is from up north.

Grendel · Apr 17, 2016

Sick Boy said:
Completely agree, they cheated their way yet again and spent big to get there. Their forum is ridiculous as well, some of them were claiming today's referee was from London and supports Spurs, when reality he is from up north.

Bournemouth broke the same rules in getting promoted. If such rules existed at the time so would Southampton.

Today they were unlucky - if the letter of the law was applied vardy was fouled and the west ham player was denying a goal scoring opportunity.

They've lost 3 games all year and 12 months ago were bottom of the league. They are something that's been needed in football for a while.

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 17, 2016

Sick Boy said:
Completely agree, they cheated their way yet again and spent big to get there. Their forum is ridiculous as well, some of them were claiming today's referee was from London and supports Spurs, when reality he is from up north.

Was this the game where they had to change the ref because the chosen one had been to see Leicester with his mates?

Sick boy how did they cheat ffp I saw something appear on here about it but didn't see the full story

Colin Steins Smile · Apr 17, 2016

Skyblueweeman said:
I hate the fact that Leicester got away with going into administration all those years ago and after that, every other club who has gone into administration since, has suffered the consequences.

From what I remember, they got away with it without any punishment. All debts simply wiped out, nothing owed, no points deduction.

Had we been that first club to go into administration, I think the past 10 years wouldn't have been so bleak.

That's my only gripe about Leicester really.

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Thats how I feel about Leicester...they got away with administration without any penalty. However, I remember 1987 when we played a slightly under strength team at their place, pre-cup final and got away with a draw, which almost confirmed their relegation.

stupot07 · Apr 17, 2016

Terry Gibson's perm said:
Was this the game where they had to change the ref because the chosen one had been to see Leicester with his mates?

Sick boy how did they cheat ffp I saw something appear on here about it but didn't see the full story

They lost c£21m in their championship promotion season, the rules stated that allowable losses were £8m that season.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...will-they-be-derailed-by-FFP-regulations.html

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Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 17, 2016

stupot07 said:
They lost c£21m in their championship promotion season, the rules stated that allowable losses were £8m that season.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...will-they-be-derailed-by-FFP-regulations.html

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daft rules in my view but they are the rules and we know how strict the football league are with those :thinking about: scary to think of the money the teams are spending in that league and that's before Villa and maybe Newcastle and Blunderland appear.

jas365 · Apr 17, 2016

stupot07 said:
They lost c£21m in their championship promotion season, the rules stated that allowable losses were £8m that season.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...will-they-be-derailed-by-FFP-regulations.html

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That article is from December, but it's still being looked into, this article was in the Guardian last weekend:
http://www.theguardian.com/football...ball-league-financial-fair-play-investigation

Rodders1 · Apr 17, 2016

Otis said:
I hope Spurs win it. The more I think about it, the more I want Spurs to win. Think they are the better footballing side and besides, I remember when Blackburn won the league all those years back.

The next season there were an awful lot of local kids in the stands wearing Blackburn shirts when we played them.

Transpose that to Leicester fans. Dare say if they win the league we could well lose a lot of the young fans getting into football in this city who may well start to go and support Leicester instead and can you imagine Coventry City centre with loads of kids wearing Leicester tops?

As I say it happened with Blackburn. With many young kids they can have a first and second team, i.e. Man U and City, or Liverpool and City, or Chelsea and City. With Leicester being so close (22 miles away) it could make it so much worse in terms of out getting kids up to the Ricoh.

Love an underdog to do well, but Leicester is just a bit too close to home in many ways and I would love Spurs to do it, as they play football in the right way and are good on the eye too.

I do not not want Leicester to win the league full stop. But I agree that Tottenham feel and look like a true title winning team. Great footballing team. Enjoy watching them. But just can't see Leicester slipping up.

As for local kids, the street I park in for home games at the Ricoh (a mere stones throw away) I have already encountered cheeky kids shouting "Leicester" and me and other fans walking to the game. Makes me gutted for our future.

Rodders1 · Apr 17, 2016

fernandopartridge said:
No. I don't want them to win. They're not self made plucky underdogs. They're part of the rich football elite and it looks like they defrauded FFP to get out of the Championship.

Spot on

Rodders1 · Apr 17, 2016

Terry Gibson's perm said:
but I doubt many of their fans would be wanting us to win it if it was the other way round.

I live in Leicester and can categorically say they would not be supporting us.

lifeskyblue · Apr 17, 2016

Terry Gibson's perm said:
but I doubt many of their fans would be wanting us to win it if it was the other way round.

Probably same as cov fans wanting them to win it. I was there this afternoon and the atmosphere was electric...fully behind team for full 90mins. Like fans everywhere they were biased re the sending off and penalties etc but that's the same for any partisan fans everywhere. I would love to be in a position where the SBA were able to sing about winning the premier league.

stevefloyd · Apr 17, 2016

just winning league 1 or indeed a match or 2 would do me

lifeskyblue · Apr 17, 2016

stevefloyd said:
just winning league 1 or indeed a match or 2 would do me

Me to at the minute. Have to be honest...I was a little envious of the atmosphere today.

Deleted member 4439 · Apr 17, 2016

Whilst I know it would be the same for any set of fans in similar circumstances, after the crowd's reaction for Vardy's dive I was pleased to see West Ham take the lead. Both pens looked soft to me, and Huff was lucky to escape a first half pen, but it seems that the Leicester fans have taken the mantle of Man Utd fans in their ungraciousness.

ccfcway · Apr 17, 2016

stevefloyd said:
just winning league 1 or indeed a match or 2 would do me

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this.

I have just been googling when was the last season we ended in the top half of a league, let alone win one

Grendel · Apr 17, 2016

dubed said:
Whilst I know it would be the same for any set of fans in similar circumstances, after the crowd's reaction for Vardy's dive I was pleased to see West Ham take the lead. Both pens looked soft to me, and Huff was lucky to escape a first half pen, but it seems that the Leicester fans have taken the mantle of Man Utd fans in their ungraciousness.

It wasn't a dive there was contact.

Sky_Blue_Daz · Apr 17, 2016

Ahh good luck to them, would love to be in their position

DionDublinsForehead · Apr 17, 2016

I hope they do win it for the good of football. Very boring seeing either Chelsea, Man City or Man Utd winning it all the time.

Ashdown · Apr 17, 2016

Grendel said:
It wasn't a dive there was contact.

He does it all the time, he's a great player but a cheating bastard. Uses his pace to run himself into defenders then goes down !

skybluegod · Apr 17, 2016

Grendel said:
Bournemouth broke the same rules in getting promoted. If such rules existed at the time so would Southampton.

Today they were unlucky - if the letter of the law was applied vardy was fouled and the west ham player was denying a goal scoring opportunity.

They've lost 3 games all year and 12 months ago were bottom of the league. They are something that's been needed in football for a while.

As a ref I think he had a good performance. Hardy 100% deserved the 2nd yellow no doubt. Otis is right, he got the Morgan one wrong and Carroll one wrong but it evened out. For the most part he handled it very well.

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Otis · Apr 17, 2016

Vardy definitely dived. Clear as day.

Looking at the highlights again now I think there should have been about 5 penalties.

The governing bodies have to do something about this.

Needs a real clampdown and I get the feeling that refs might not just have to award pens, but consider sending players off too. If they just give pens the offending team will indeed feel it will just be evened out at the other end at some point.

It's got to a ridiculous level for sure.

chiefdave · Apr 17, 2016

Players are creating their own problem here. If there wasn't so much pushing and shoving in the penalty area and people diving around then they could blame the ref but the way they carry on its no surprise some mistakes are made.

chiefdave · Apr 17, 2016

Otis said:
The governing bodies have to do something about this.

To me things like this could be sorted easily. Start at the top, every PL game is televised so can be reviewed.

Have every match reviewed by a different ref and if they see a dive its an automatic suspension.

Same with pushing and shoving, tell the teams at the start of the season to cut it out as they are going to give a penalty every time.

Would also do it with players talking to the ref. Make it so only the captain can talk to the ref (unless the ref speaks to them). Anyone else does it, asks for a player to be carded etc automatic red card.

This is stuff that could be cut out if the authorities got a grip.

rupert_bear · Apr 17, 2016

But watching the match on match of the day the referee seemed ignore the most blatant grabs and pushes both ends of the pitch, yet both penalties he gave were pitifully soft, I think Alan Shearer was spot on when he said the ref couldn't handle the pressure.

skybluegod · Apr 17, 2016

Pushing and pulling on the box is one of the hardest things to officiate until the rules are sorted. If you give one then you give 10 a match, players won't stop until there is a change in the laws.

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skyblue025 · Apr 18, 2016

skybluegod said:
As a ref I think he had a good performance. Hardy 100% deserved the 2nd yellow no doubt. Otis is right, he got the Morgan one wrong and Carroll one wrong but it evened out. For the most part he handled it very well.

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I'm also a ref and I thought he was abysmal. No consistency what so ever. Yes Vardy dived but the first one was never a booking, Huth gave a blatant pen away first half, the Carroll pen never was, he gave a pen against Morgan but then didn't give one for Huth 5 min later. If your going to give one for holding in the box then you have to give all of them. I'm a level 4 and also an assessor and will never get to be a Premier league ref, but John Moss is out of his depth and I very much doubt he will be a Premier league ref next season. To many poor games.

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