Lets look on the bright side (6 Viewers)

[GIMOC]

Yeh but I'm saying what you think of the standard of the league is irrelevant as that's our competition. Assuming we don't go up we've got a squad that is around 5th-7th based on its competition as a starting point for Lampard. That's a good starting point and people should be looking forward to next season regardless of what happens from here.

regardless what happens. this squad needs an overhaul. easily say 7-8 players are not good enough it’s not like we are just 2 or 3 short

 

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[Lamps]

what a load of nonsense

the reason we still have it in our hands is because the league really is that shit

boro missed a penalty to go 2 up against Wednesday. somehow we still have 6th but that’s not down to our great play it’s down to how shit other teams are

to win 3 from 9 and lose 5 yet still be in the playoffs shows me everything

we have played really well in 2 or 3 games when it’s mattered from last 9 games

Explain why it is shite? Would you prefer it to be the total opposite like the Prem where certain teams are nearly always near the top and the promoted teams are nearly always at the bottom? That's shite to me.

So we're shite because Middlesbrough missed a penalty We're not as good without Dovin. If you read on here you will know it's one of the very rare things we all agree on 100%. But strangely enough you ignore this fact. With Dovin we would already have secured our playoff place and your rant would look more stupid than it does now.

 

[GIMOC]

Perhaps the other teams are actually quite good and so countered our performances?

lol now I know you are on a wind up

the standard is poor

if you think the standard of this league is quite good then you don’t watch football

 

[GIMOC]

Explain why it is shite? Would you prefer it to be the total opposite like the Prem where certain teams are nearly always near the top and the promoted teams are nearly always at the bottom? That's shite to me.

So we're shite because Middlesbrough missed a penalty We're not as good without Dovin. If you read on here you will know it's one of the very rare things we all agree on 100%. But strangely enough you ignore this fact. With Dovin we would already have secured our playoff place and your rant would look more stupid than it does now.

our outfield performance have gone downhill since Sunderland game

we’ve played well twice in the last 9. so we all agree that collins isn’t good enough why doesn’t Lampard?

 

[TomRad85]

regardless what happens. this squad needs an overhaul. easily say 7-8 players are not good enough it’s not like we are just 2 or 3 short

Right I agree with you to an extent but I still don't understand your point. For us to have shortcomings but still be where we are, as I keep saying, relative to our competition is a good starting point for Lampard going into the summer.

I'm sure many of those deficiencies will addressed.

 

[bigfatronssba]

lol now I know you are on a wind up

the standard is poor

if you think the standard of this league is quite good then you don’t watch football

Statistically it’s the best second division in the world.

When you say we’re poor, who/what are you comparing us to?

Because you seem to agree that there aren’t currently 6 teams better than us. So I’m confused as to what you’re using as a benchmark

 

[Lamps]

How many shots did we have on target yesterday?

never once yesterday did we look a threat. we were never on top

we had the ball more but never on top so that proves my delusional point if you thought we looked on top yesterday at any point

So you call them on top when they're camped out in our half yet we're not on top when camped out in their half. OK.

I agree we deserved nothing from the game. But can you stop ignoring that we played nearly the whole game with 10 men and nearly got a point through pure effort.

 

[Lamps]

our outfield performance have gone downhill since Sunderland game

we’ve played well twice in the last 9. so we all agree that collins isn’t good enough why doesn’t Lampard?

That's not saying why you think that the Championship is shite.

 

[GIMOC]

Statistically it’s the best second division in the world.

When you say we’re poor, who/what are you comparing us to?

Because you seem to agree that there aren’t currently 6 teams better than us. So I’m confused as to what you’re using as a benchmark

lol - football standards have dropped over recent years

the prem is the same

I based my opinion on what I see and the standard of football I see mostly this season has been average to say the least

you look at performances overall. how many times have we left that ground and thought we look playoff contenders and a really good team

id say 4 or 5

Plymouth at home
Oxford away
Sunderland at home
Watford at home
Baggies at home

other than that, performances have not what I would call worth of promotion performances

 

[GIMOC]

That's not saying why you think that the Championship is shite.

do you watch football?

the performances last season were far better than this season yet last season we didn’t make the playoffs

the standard is shocking very rarely do I leave a game and think they are two good teams

the gap now between championship and prem is bigger than ever and imo prem standards are not what they were compared to 10 years ago

 

[bigfatronssba]

lol - football standards have dropped over recent years

the prem is the same

I based my opinion on what I see and the standard of football I see mostly this season has been average to say the least

The team of 87 that won the FA cup wasn’t very good then

 

[GIMOC]

The team of 87 that won the FA cup wasn’t very good then

wtf are you on about now?

cup games are one off look at our run last season

the 87 team was very good Im sure we finished top half that season

 

[bigfatronssba]

wtf are you on about now?

cup games are one off look at our run last season

the 87 team was very good Im sure we finished top half that season

Everyone else was poor then though. The standard of 80s football was really low, so we were lucky it seems

 

[Lamps]

regardless what happens. this squad needs an overhaul. easily say 7-8 players are not good enough it’s not like we are just 2 or 3 short

Most of our 1st team players are good enough for the Championship. We're not a 2 player team anymore like we were with Gyokeres and Hamer. We went on a near record run from January when our best players were injured. But if you want to compare us to sides that have the Prem money coming down then of course that's a different matter. We're not alone here. But slowly we're closing the gap.

 

[GIMOC]

Everyone else was poor then though. The standard of 80s football was really low, so we were lucky it seems

before the ban of english clubs, English teams dominated European competitions every year when they were proper competitions not the glorified super league it is now

you are not making a relevant point comparing 87 team to now

 

[Lamps]

do you watch football?

the performances last season were far better than this season yet last season we didn’t make the playoffs

the standard is shocking very rarely do I leave a game and think they are two good teams

the gap now between championship and prem is bigger than ever and imo prem standards are not what they were compared to 10 years ago

Yes I watch football. But I hardly ever bother watching Prem games because they're boring most of the time.

 

[GIMOC]

Most of our 1st team players are good enough for the Championship. We're not a 2 player team anymore like we were with Gyokeres and Hamer. We went on a near record run from January when our best players were injured. But if you want to compare us to sides that have the Prem money coming down then of course that's a different matter. We're not alone here. But slowly we're closing the gap.

difference is those 2 players were consistently good

apart from Rudoni at the min , not one player has shown consistency of their abilities which either means mentally they are not good enough or they flatter to deceive at times

 

[GIMOC]

Yes I watch football. But I hardly ever bother watching Prem games because they're boring most of the time.

how do you know they are boring if you don’t watch them?

 

[Lamps]

difference is those 2 players were consistently good

apart from Rudoni at the min , not one player has shown consistency of their abilities which either means mentally they are not good enough or they flatter to deceive at times

Our GK problems have seriously cost us this season. Without them we would be doing much better.

Are you going to try and disagree with this?

 

[Hobo]

If we miss out we lose the backbone of the squad.

MvE
Rudoni
Sheaf
Wright

Will probably all move on. That's a lot of quality we will need to replace, and replacing talent AND getting it right is quite a challenge.

It won't be the end of the world as we've done similar before, but to miss out now would be so disapointing having done the hard work and gone from 17th in the championship to 5th

MVE has been linked with other clubs and could go abroad, Prem is less likely. As impressive as he is for us there are better options out there on the world wide scouting network.
Rudoni? A promoted club most likely. If Sheffield United go up watch them upgrade on Callum O'Hare.
Sheaf no due to his injury record and age.
Wright abroad maybe but not Premier League. Let's face it Premier League clubs aren't even sure about Gyokeres.

Lots of if and buts, can't see them all leaving.

 

[GIMOC]

Our GK problems have seriously cost us this season. Without them we would be doing much better.

Are you going to try and disagree with this?

again apart from rudi you tell me another player who consistently shows us performances where you think wow?

you are right so why does Lampard still persist with him? he should never have played again after pompey

but also the outfield players have not played good enough in the last month not all down to collins

 

[Flying Fokker]

I think the frustration is we’re doing our best to throw this opportunity away. Next season the league will be tougher.

It’s clear that we’ve had some key players out the last 3 months. This is MR’s squad bar Grimes. The players did well to get where we are given that we were relegation form prior to Lampard taking over.

I’m more concerned that we have a good start next season. Hoping we’ll get into the play-offs. Sheffield United seem just as flat as the other teams in the mix.

 

[Lamps]

again apart from rudi you tell me another player who consistently shows us performances where you think wow?

you are right so why does Lampard still persist with him? he should never have played again after pompey

but also the outfield players have not played good enough in the last month not all down to collins

So you think a player isn't good enough for the Championship if he doesn't make you say 'wow'? If that's the case 99% of Championship players are not good enough to play in the Championship.

The only valid point you have made is this GK one. What do we know?

Some of the defeats are down to how Lampard sets us up. Let's take the Plymouth game for an example. I said if we play the high line against them we would be in trouble. I said the way they would play. I named the players that would score. If an idiot like myself could see it coming why didn't Lampard?

 

[GIMOC]

So you think a player isn't good enough for the Championship if he doesn't make you say 'wow'? If that's the case 99% of Championship players are not good enough to play in the Championship.

The only valid point you have made is this GK one. What do we know?

Some of the defeats are down to how Lampard sets us up. Let's take the Plymouth game for an example. I said if we play the high line against them we would be in trouble. I said the way they would play. I named the players that would score. If an idiot like myself could see it coming why didn't Lampard?

lol I hope you are a millionaire with all these perfect predictions

you look at the Leeds team, most of them players at the cbs that night I thought wow

we’ve spent a lot of money and so far only rudi is showing value for money with his consistent performances

since wright hat trick against Sunderland he’s done nothing. thats the point

we have too many individuals who one week look great players followed by 4 or 5 bang average performances

 

[Viktor17]

did you watch the game?

we didn’t look a threat at all

if we peppered their goal then conceded late on that’s unlucky but only one team looked like wanting a win and that was luton

Ever played a game with 10? Did you expect us to pop it about? And rain shots in on their goal?

that was probably our best defensive effort in long time. They huffed and puffed but rarely carved us open.

we are 6th best team in league currently, done amazingly to get in this position.

why the constant league is crap, everyone else is crap narrative? Of course we are not perfect and need improving, like all teams.

embrace and enjoy Saturday.

 

[Noble]

It’s rather entertaining that one of the few threads trying to be positive immediately attracts GIMOC to come and bash the team he apparently supports.

 

[Viktor17]

lol I hope you are a millionaire with all these perfect predictions

you look at the Leeds team, most of them players at the cbs that night I thought wow

we’ve spent a lot of money and so far only rudi is showing value for money with his consistent performances

since wright hat trick against Sunderland he’s done nothing. thats the point

we have too many individuals who one week look great players followed by 4 or 5 bang average performances

Our players are at this level because they are inconsistent/ work in progress - that’s where we are?!

Leeds are no comparison or thier players.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Agree with Evo and many others. The fact we’re in the mix going into the last game still in a play off spot is some achievement especially after the start we had. Add to the fact that recently we’ve lost our keeper, first choice CB, 4m+ winger and yesterday one of the best RBs in the league. All key players especially Dovin. No wonder it’s been a struggle, especially against teams fighting for their lives (not to mention some bordering on disgraceful officiating)…but still got a good chance against Boro.

 

[Lamps]

lol I hope you are a millionaire with all these perfect predictions

you look at the Leeds team, most of them players at the cbs that night I thought wow

we’ve spent a lot of money and so far only rudi is showing value for money with his consistent performances

since wright hat trick against Sunderland he’s done nothing. thats the point

we have too many individuals who one week look great players followed by 4 or 5 bang average performances

Welcome to the world of the life of a Championship player. If they were more consistent they would have the chance of becoming a Prem player.

Look back at the Plymouth game thread. That's how obvious it was to me. Most expected a win.

You don't expect a Prem quality player for 5m or less. The players like Rudoni get bought for a lot more. Hamer went up there for 15m. You're deluded if you think it's easy to keep up with the Prem yoyo clubs. Give us the 100m and see if it improves us.

 

[GIMOC]

It’s rather entertaining that one of the few threads trying to be positive immediately attracts GIMOC to come and bash the team he apparently supports.

bash?

everything is facts

we have somehow still managed to stay in the playoffs despite inept performances

so you are telling me we’ve played well last 9 games to warrant the spot

we have got lucky so unsure how this is bashing

 

[GIMOC]

Ever played a game with 10? Did you expect us to pop it about? And rain shots in on their goal?

that was probably our best defensive effort in long time. They huffed and puffed but rarely carved us open.

we are 6th best team in league currently, done amazingly to get in this position.

why the constant league is crap, everyone else is crap narrative? Of course we are not perfect and need improving, like all teams.

embrace and enjoy Saturday.

we played against 10 men for 55 mins the other 45 mins we didn’t offer anything against 11

 

[Lamps]

bash?

everything is facts

we have somehow still managed to stay in the playoffs despite inept performances

so you are telling me we’ve played well last 9 games to warrant the spot

we have got lucky so unsure how this is bashing

Fact?

You're calling our players shite and calling the Championship shite because or players are not of a Prem quality while ignoring the fact you need Prem money to put together the players you think we should have.

 

[skyblueinBaku]

Sunderland are average from what I’ve seen

Sheff Utd bottled it after beating us. ask any of there fans and they would agree

there

*their

 

[GIMOC]

Fact?

You're calling our players shite and calling the Championship shite because or players are not of a Prem quality while ignoring the fact you need Prem money to put together the players you think we should have.

who said they were shite?

not me

I said they are inconsistent which when it matters is never good

 

[Kingokings204]

Can’t believe we are arguing over a playoff spot with 1 game to go and it’s totally in our hands. If anyone offered this at the start of the season we would all take it no matter how it happened.

Since the last international break and losing to Sheffield United it’s all been downhill really with unlucky injuries and some poor performances. Yesterday the players fought like lions and deserved a point and we were missing 5 first team players like someone said.

Yes we have faltered a bit but there are reasons but here we are. Whatever happens Saturday we will have a good summer under Lampard. He knows exactly what we need and he will get it im pretty sure if grimes is anything to go by.

Let’s get behind them Saturday and there is even a chance a draw would be enough either Millwall and Blackburn both tough away games. We are in a fantastic position and in theory 4 games away from the premier league. Thats the reality of it at this point. It’s incredible.