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Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 20, 2022

PVA said:
But would he be OK with that? And would we be OK with having a 4th choice on presumably quite high wages?

Obviously if we can't get rid of him then we don't have much choice. But it's potentially a big wage sat on the bench for 5 or 10 mins here and there.

I think he’ll have to be unless we can find someone willing to pay a fee and not offer a big wage cut. Sell it to him as his chance for a contract or to go in the shop window and get him to bulk up over the summer as prep for how we want him to play.

Grendel · Apr 20, 2022

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:

He scored a goal every other game for Mansfield and Lincoln and I think was top scorer last season.

I can’t see how a decline cannot be reversed

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Apr 20, 2022

He's shown in the past he knows where the goal is, but he at best has a louche demeanour that comes across to fans as a bit lazy.

With the way we play MR isn't going to accept a striker that isn't putting a shift in. If he can add that to his game he'd have a place here. Sadly the penny should have dropped by his age and I think it's a reputation that will follow him for his entire career.

no_loyalty · Apr 22, 2022

Pask in the starting lineup for Newport tonight.

Skybluebeliever · Apr 22, 2022

Hilßner looks to have suffered a bad injury

higgs · Apr 22, 2022

Skybluebeliever said:
Hilßner looks to have suffered a bad injury

Fuck it he won't be going anywhere next season so on his 4k stealing a career as a professional footballer

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junglej13 · Apr 22, 2022

Skybluebeliever said:
Hilßner looks to have suffered a bad injury

Curse of the ACL again it seems

Skybluedownunder · Apr 23, 2022

Can’t we palm him off to Sunderland?

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better days · Apr 23, 2022

Skybluebeliever said:
Hilßner looks to have suffered a bad injury

Poor bugger

better days · Apr 23, 2022

Skybluebeliever said:
Hilßner looks to have suffered a bad injury

Translated from a German news article
Feel so bad for the lad
Players normally come back back to the club who own their registration for treatment for serious injuries

Bad news for Marcel Hilßner: The FSV Zwickau midfielder tore a cruciate ligament during the cup match against BSG Chemie Leipzig on Thursday evening.

Loan ends in summer
The 27-year-old had been on the pitch for just three minutes after being substituted on at half-time when he fell unhappily on the ground fighting for the ball, injured his knee and had to be substituted again. Tests on Friday morning revealed the bitter diagnosis. The winger will be out for months due to the serious injury. How things will continue for him is unclear.

Hilßner is only on loan from the English club Coventry City until the end of the season, where he is still under contract until 2023. Whether he still has a future at the club near Birmingham seems uncertain - not least because of his injury. He has made ten appearances for FSV since joining in winter and was directly involved in three goals.

Frostie · Apr 23, 2022

higgs said:
Fuck it he won't be going anywhere next season so on his 4k stealing a career as a professional footballer

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Harsh. From what I know he's never kicked up a fuss & has always worked hard, not like Kastaneer etc.

better days · Apr 23, 2022

Frostie said:
Harsh. From what I know he's never kicked up a fuss & has always worked hard, not like Kastaneer etc.

SBT · Apr 23, 2022

Sad news for him.

Also dreadful news for us in terms of rebuilding the squad next season - hard to see how we get him off the wage bill now. He will surely go down as Robins’ worst ever signing here.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 23, 2022

Frostie said:
Harsh. From what I know he's never kicked up a fuss & has always worked hard, not like Kastaneer etc.

For 200 grand a year I should hope so.

SlowerThanPlatt · Apr 23, 2022

SBT said:
Sad news for him.

Also dreadful news for us in terms of rebuilding the squad next season - hard to see how we get him off the wage bill now. He will surely go down as Robins’ worst ever signing here.

By the sounds of what he’s said about the foreign recruitment and that he will now be going to watch them in person to avoid “bad signings” I doubt he had much to do with it…

Evo1883 · Apr 23, 2022

it definitely seems like Robins didn't have much to do with the da Costas and the kastaneers

MusicDating · Apr 23, 2022

SBT said:
Sad news for him.

Also dreadful news for us in terms of rebuilding the squad next season - hard to see how we get him off the wage bill now. He will surely go down as Robins’ worst ever signing here.

Someone's going to be best and someone's going to be worst.

higgs · Apr 23, 2022

better days said:
Translated from a German news article
Feel so bad for the lad
Players normally come back back to the club who own their registration for treatment for serious injuries

Bad news for Marcel Hilßner: The FSV Zwickau midfielder tore a cruciate ligament during the cup match against BSG Chemie Leipzig on Thursday evening.

Loan ends in summer
The 27-year-old had been on the pitch for just three minutes after being substituted on at half-time when he fell unhappily on the ground fighting for the ball, injured his knee and had to be substituted again. Tests on Friday morning revealed the bitter diagnosis. The winger will be out for months due to the serious injury. How things will continue for him is unclear.

Hilßner is only on loan from the English club Coventry City until the end of the season, where he is still under contract until 2023. Whether he still has a future at the club near Birmingham seems uncertain - not least because of his injury. He has made ten appearances for FSV since joining in winter and was directly involved in three goals.

I think I can answer that one he has no future at this club he was nowhere near championship standard even before this injury

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better days · Apr 23, 2022

higgs said:
I think I can answer that one he has no future at this club he was nowhere near championship standard even before this injury

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We all knew that when Hilssner was exciled to the U23s

higgs · Apr 23, 2022

better days said:
We all knew that when Hilssner was exciled to the U23s

Poor bloke will struggle to get back to being a professional footballer after this injury. Would we be insured against this type of injury while on loan

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better days · Apr 23, 2022

higgs said:
Poor bloke will struggle to get back to being a professional footballer after this injury. Would we be insured against this type of injury while on loan

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Unfortunately no the club won't have cover
The premiums would be prohibitive
Players often have career ending insurance
Hopefully it won't come to that and the lad can eventually recover

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Apr 23, 2022

Evo1883 said:
it definitely seems like Robins didn't have much to do with the da Costas and the kastaneers

I have said for a while that there are questions needing to be raised about the transfer dealings we do, and it looks like Robins agrees. When we have such a tight budget we have to be wise. They'll always be some that don't work out, but we need to make that margin smaller.

All the best to Marcel.

Skybluedownunder · Apr 23, 2022

SBT said:
Sad news for him.

Also dreadful news for us in terms of rebuilding the squad next season - hard to see how we get him off the wage bill now. He will surely go down as Robins’ worst ever signing here.

Bouwe Bosma

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better days · Apr 23, 2022

Skybluedownunder said:
Bouwe Bosma

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Difference is Bosma was on £300 per week
He was brought in for the U23s

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 23, 2022

SBT said:
Sad news for him.

Also dreadful news for us in terms of rebuilding the squad next season - hard to see how we get him off the wage bill now. He will surely go down as Robins’ worst ever signing here.

Surely that’s Kasta

Terry_dactyl · Apr 23, 2022

I’d be disappointed, and somewhat surprised, if our future transfer dealings rested on whether Marcel Hilßner continues to be in our squad.

Bugsy · Apr 23, 2022

Can't we just mutually agree to terminate his contract and pay a settlement figure or the rest of his contract up.

fernandopartridge · Apr 23, 2022

Bugsy said:
Can't we just mutually agree to terminate his contract and pay a settlement figure or the rest of his contract up.

The problem with that is that it takes a chunk of capital now. You might as well keep him as do that in all honesty.

SBT · Apr 23, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Surely that’s Kasta

Kastaneer at least played for us a handful of times - he even scored! Plus he was on L1 wages, and we were able to ship him out when required. No-one will pretend that Kastaneer offered value for money, but Hilssner has just been a money pit. We would have saved money by setting half a million on fire.

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 23, 2022

He is more likely to come back than terminate as we must have a duty to help repair him, can’t think we will be extending it like Jones though.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 23, 2022

SBT said:
Kastaneer at least played for us a handful of times - he even scored! Plus he was on L1 wages, and we were able to ship him out when required. No-one will pretend that Kastaneer offered value for money, but Hilssner has just been a money pit. We would have saved money by setting half a million on fire.

Think there’s far more goodwill at the club for Hilssner

SBT · Apr 23, 2022

Skybluedownunder said:
Bouwe Bosma

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Never understood why people keep bringing this kid up. He was a cheap lottery ticket who kicked around the reserves for a bit and left. We could have given him a 40-year contract and he still would have cost less than Hillsner, and would have had the same impact on the first team.

SBT · Apr 23, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Think there’s far more goodwill at the club for Hilssner

So what? For the record I also would have worked hard for £4000 a week - I wouldn’t expect people to be able to defend giving me a three year deal though.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 23, 2022

SBT said:
So what? For the record I also would have worked hard for £4000 a week - I wouldn’t expect people to be able to defend giving me a three year deal though.

Do you have some personal beef with him or something?

SBT · Apr 23, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Do you have some personal beef with him or something?

No, but I think people are underestimating how much damage his signing has done. People making apologies for him based on him being a nice guy who works hard seems bizarre to me.

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