Loans (again) (1 Viewer)

[Perennial Lurker]

Pretty obvious to me ayari loan could have worked out great for us if the manager had made it a priority to get it to work

Now don't mistake that for me saying robins should have put him before the team. I just don't buy that ayari was shit 12 months ago but is now fighting for CL spot quality in prem.

Why would any manager prioritise making a loan work over the greater good of the squad we own ?
Seems a very weird take

 

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[covcity4life]

Why would any manager prioritise making a loan work over the greater good of the squad we own ?
Seems a very weird take

Why would you ignore me explicitly stating that's not what I'm saying?

Weird indeed

 

[MalcSB]

No it wasn't.

It didn't work out, but there were no repercussions. There was no risk to it.

How many points were dropped with him on the pitch for Coventry?

 

[MalcSB]

Why would you ignore me explicitly stating that's not what I'm saying?

Weird indeed

Why mention it at all then?

You seem to be attempting to excuse your misjudgment of Ayari despite a lack of evidence of ability whilst he was with us. Then, having realised how stupid a concept putting a single loan player of limited ability ahead of the team actually is, you try to back away from the solution by saying that isn’t what you were actually saying should have happened at Coventry, Or Blackburn for that matter. I can only assume you were “just kidding”.

I haven’t watched any Prem football this season, the only Prem team I have watched is Ipswich. I must make a point to watch a match that Ayari is playing in from kick off to see if his current performance levels will make be reconsider my view of him as being a waste of space.

I can’t remember if you tend to be pro or anti Eccles.

 

[covcity4life]

Why mention it at all then?

You seem to be attempting to excuse your misjudgment of Ayari despite a lack of evidence of ability whilst he was with us. Then, having realised how stupid a concept putting a single loan player of limited ability ahead of the team actually is, you try to back away from the solution by saying that isn’t what you were actually saying should have happened at Coventry, Or Blackburn for that matter. I can only assume you were “just kidding”.

I haven’t watched any Prem football this season, the only Prem team I have watched is Ipswich. I must make a point to watch a match that Ayari is playing in from kick off to see if his current performance levels will make be reconsider my view of him as being a waste of space.

I can’t remember if you tend to be pro or anti Eccles.

Lol what

Why would I back track in my first post. Surely I would just delete the line before i posted it in the first place???!!



Thanks for admitting no one should take your opinion serious on ayari though as you admit you have not watched him play for Brighton


Brilliant.

 

[Shannerz]

How many points were dropped with him on the pitch for Coventry?

I have no idea, and no intention of finding out.

Do you hold him personally responsible for any points dropped when he was on the pitch? That question implies it. That would be silly, though.

Then, having realised how stupid a concept putting a single loan player of limited ability ahead of the team actually is

The only stupidity I can see here is dismissing Ayari as a player of limited ability. He was clearly to everyone (except you, it seems) a player of very high technical ability, but struggling to deal with the physicality of the league.

It was a punt; a player with such high-quality technical skills was worth a try. It didn't work out, but that didn't make it a 'huge mistake to take him on loan'.

 

[MalcSB]

Lol what

Why would I back track in my first post. Surely I would just delete the line before i posted it in the first place???!!



Thanks for admitting no one should take your opinion serious on ayari though as you admit you have not watched him play for Brighton


Brilliant.

I have stated my opinion of Ayari when he was playing for us and for Blackburn. Even then some people were singing his praises, based on what I have no idea. He scored one goal with his knob and hit the bar with Wright scoring from the rebound - a clever, calculated and skillful assist.That must be where I have been going wrong, I assumed that it was a fluke.

 

[covcity4life]

I have stated my opinion of Ayari when he was playing for us and for Blackburn. Even then some people were singing his praises, based on what I have no idea. He scored one goal with his knob and hit the bar with Wright scoring from the rebound - a clever, calculated and skillful assist.That must be where I have been going wrong, I assumed that it was a fluke.

That's not what you were arguing with me about though. You said I backtracked once I realised I was wrong and I pointed out that makes no sense at all as it all happened within one post. If I realised I was wrong I would just never have posted

You are entitled to your opinion on ayari. I just don't agree

We could have got way more out of him imo. The team may have not done as well as a result so once again I am not saying we should have. My only point is that he was clearly a good player and we just didn't see it here because of circumstance not because he's shit.

Hope that clears it up.

 

[MalcSB]

That's not what you were arguing with me about though. You said I backtracked once I realised I was wrong and I pointed out that makes no sense at all as it all happened within one post. If I realised I was wrong I would just never have posted

You are entitled to your opinion on ayari. I just don't agree

We could have got way more out of him imo. The team may have not done as well as a result so once again I am not saying we should have. My only point is that he was clearly a good player and we just didn't see it here because of circumstance not because he's shit.

Hope that clears it up.

On what basis was he clearly a good player?

 

[covcity4life]

On what basis was he clearly a good player?

We saw flashes of it but mostly it's the fact he's now playing for Brighton in the premier league 12 months later