I’d make Norwich faves for play offs personally and wasn’t too shocked that Saturday went how it did - If they’d have swapped managers earlier they may well have had a decent run at Sheff U and BurnleyI’m a little confused as to how we are absolutely tearing apart all our centre backs yet we have the joint most clean sheets in the league. Yes, it doesn’t mean all the back 5 have been outstanding every game, but they’ve limited opposition players to very few (especially quality) shots on target all season. They also have to contend with defending every ball from every set piece to alleviate responsibility from Wilson as he’s incapable of leaving his line. Fadz’ leadership is a massive part of that, but we have some serious recency bias going on here as Doyle & Rose especially have been more than fine for the majority of the season. Against Burnley, top of the league, we defended really well for almost the entire game with Doyle and Rose. The Wrexham game was an absolute embarrassment and they all deserve to be slaughtered for that, and yes Norwich wasn’t great but they are a very, very good side who also put 4 past Preston at Deepdale (also joint most clean sheets).
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McFadzean has been the fulcrum this season but he can be fairly erratic himself. That we’ve been so reliant on a 35 year old journeyman is a symptom of our defensive vulnerability.
That period when we weren’t conceding goals was pretty mystifying, we made daft defensive errors in virtually every game.
Question Man City’s coaching staff will be asking themselves is will he in the next 12/24 months be pushing for a squad place in the first team? If not, then does go back out on loan for a further year to develop or decide to sell/release him?Thought Rose had been playing ok before the Wrexham game.
As for Doyle, he is a very good footballer. Great on the ball and a very good size, which he will learn how to use over time. However, his acceleration is fairly poor. Gets turned way too easily and then can’t recover. Couldn’t handle Pukki on sat. That being said, I’d have him back on loan next year if possible. Don’t think a top-end championship side would take him so it may be on the cards.
Has he not been playing for the u/21s regularly then? Or is the wrong thread.McNally is probably going to need a month to get match fit having played 2 min of league football this season. Fadz will be back by the time he's up to speed. Hopefully we have an option to buy at the end of the season.
Question Man City’s coaching staff will be asking themselves is will he in the next 12/24 months be pushing for a squad place in the first team? If not, then does go back out on loan for a further year to develop or decide to sell/release him?
There’s a good player there but I don’t think enough to break into one of the worlds best squads even in a year or two personally. Big achievement that!
After your around the 21 age and not banging the door you see a lot of clubs move them on. Remember O’hare with Villa?
He can be, but he’s a leader in a group that when you look at it without him, doesn’t have one. That and what he does for Doyle and Panzo especially. They look worse for his absence
Agreed. But that’s also the problem. He’s also been injured/suspended every year since he came to us. Building so much around him is not exactly sustainable.
Not sure if the rules but isn’t there a limit as to how many players clubs can have out on loan.Question Man City’s coaching staff will be asking themselves is will he in the next 12/24 months be pushing for a squad place in the first team? If not, then does go back out on loan for a further year to develop or decide to sell/release him?
There’s a good player there but I don’t think enough to break into one of the worlds best squads even in a year or two personally. Big achievement that!
After your around the 21 age and not banging the door you see a lot of clubs move them on. Remember O’hare with Villa?
Not sure if the rules but isn’t there a limit as to how many players clubs can have out on loan.
Three CBs, at least one who can replace Fadz’s leadership, ideally two has to be priority one for the summer. And I’m sure it is. Hyam was also very vocal I believe so we’ve lost that too, isn’t he captain at Blackburn?
Three CBs, at least one who can replace Fadz’s leadership, ideally two has to be priority one for the summer. And I’m sure it is. Hyam was also very vocal I believe so we’ve lost that too, isn’t he captain at Blackburn?
He has been a few times when the main captain is injured.
And plays the Fadz role in the middle when they play a back 3.
Really weird how some people say we don't miss him.
Our success with keepers suggests otherwise!I think starting by being hard to beat is where we need to focus our efforts. Good defenders and keepers are probably easier to recruit and cheaper too.
Our success with keepers suggests otherwise!
If that hadn't happened I think he'd still be here as an average Championship goalie. Was certainly a lot better than Wilson and ok with his feet too.Marosi was a pretty good find in League 1, until getting his face smashed turned him into a crossophobe
After we'd lost 4-0 at Rotherham back in L1, half (or more) of this forum were crucifying Fadz on here, and for quite a while, saying he was past it. 3 seasons later and we can't do without him. Football fans!
I suspect we've made a very good signing here
I'm surprised Burnley have let him go as Oxford drove a hard bargain when McNally left in close season
I like the fact that he seems to have an aerial presence, and is an attacking threat too.I suspect we've made a very good signing here
I'm surprised Burnley have let him go as Oxford drove a hard bargain when McNally left in close season
Hardly a journeymanMcFadzean has been the fulcrum this season but he can be fairly erratic himself. That we’ve been so reliant on a 35 year old journeyman is a symptom of our defensive vulnerability.
That period when we weren’t conceding goals was pretty mystifying, we made daft defensive errors in virtually every game.
Depends how they feel after promotionOnly a loan though, they aren't really letting him go.
Depends how they feel after promotion
We also had this with Vik, too - for balance. Didn't work out so badly!If he has a stormer he’ll likely get sold to the hugest bidder or kept and loaned out for another season. If he doesn’t, do we want him? We had this with JCS and Osti recently.
We also had this with Vik, too - for balance. Didn't work out so badly!
Not sure Id call Viks loan “having a stormer”. But that’s the ideal, crap in public but shows enough in training for us to think we’ve got a gem. Kompany seems to rate him TBF just not enough to start.
That was my point -- Vik was so, so during his loan, but we obviously saw enough to think we could develop him. As you say, that's the ideal, as if McNally plays like Bobby Moore for the duration, we won't get a sniff.Not sure Id call Viks loan “having a stormer”. But that’s the ideal, crap in public but shows enough in training for us to think we’ve got a gem. Kompany seems to rate him TBF just not enough to start.
Apart from we actually need him to play well in this loan spell, as otherwise we continue to have no defence.That was my point -- Vik was so, so during his loan, but we obviously saw enough to think we could develop him. As you say, that's the ideal, as if McNally plays like Bobby Moore for the duration, we won't get a sniff.
Yeah but he’s young and if I were them I’d keep hold and see if he either develops next season where they can sell for more with two years left still or they get relegated and want to make use of him.I think he's probably about 6th or 7th choice CB there now.
He was 4th or 5th choice and they've just signed two centre backs in this window for about £5m
Confirmed today do we think?
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