Manchester Airport Incident (1 Viewer)

[rob9872]

It isn't worse, but religion in many forms is behind so many attacks from all sides. You mentioned atheists, I just pointed out that they aren't and never have been an issue. Whilst I don't expect you to agree, and that's fair enough, if there was no religion the world would be a much better place for all.

 

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[MalcSB]

It isn't worse, but religion in many forms is behind so many attacks from all sides. You mentioned atheists, I just pointed out that they aren't and never have been an issue. Whilst I don't expect you to agree, and that's fair enough, if there was no religion the world would be a much better place for all.

Redistribution of the wealth of religions would be a good thing.

 

[Como]

It isn't worse, but religion in many forms is behind so many attacks from all sides. You mentioned atheists, I just pointed out that they aren't and never have been an issue. Whilst I don't expect you to agree, and that's fair enough, if there was no religion the world would be a much better place for all.

Stalin, Mao?? Killing Fields?

Atheism is also a belief system.

It seems that as we see with Progressives there is something that many who askew lets say traditional religion need to replace it with.

In a prior age they would have been the monks and the nuns.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It isn't worse, but religion in many forms is behind so many attacks from all sides. You mentioned atheists, I just pointed out that they aren't and never have been an issue. Whilst I don't expect you to agree, and that's fair enough, if there was no religion the world would be a much better place for all.

Would be no different it should be much better it is not

 

[MalcSB]

Even the police are getting pissed off with the delay and think this is politically motivated two tier justice based on ethnicity.

Manchester airport brawl:Critics are furious at 'two-tier' justice

Fahir Amaaz is a name that will mean little to most people. But almost everyone will remember the picture of him at Manchester Airport with an officer's boot on his head.

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“However, more than four months on from their arrest – 123 days to be precise and counting – there are still no charges despite the graphic CCTV footage.

Why, is the question a growing number of people are asking. To put this in context it takes, on average, less than half that time, just 55 days, to charge someone who has been arrested for an offence of 'violence against the person', which includes everything from assault to murder. In the most straightfoward cases, it can take only a matter of hours or days.

The images captured on video would suggest this was one such case.

In fact, the inquiries into Fahir and Muhammad by Greater Manchester Police were concluded in just over three weeks. But the lives and careers of the two officers remain on hold while life continues almost as normal for the brothers. 'It's usual for things to happen much quicker but the CPS is frightened of being criticised,' said an authoritative source in Greater Manchester Police who spoke to us on condition of anonymity. 'I suspect the political situation at the moment has a lot to do with it because of the ethnicity of the family.

'I have had conversations with the chief constable and the deputy chief constable about this. They are as frustrated as we are and as members of the public are but they can't say that publicly.'”

 

[MalcSB]

FFS, we're not still banging on about a two tier justice system are we?

Do your own research. The average time it was taking for cases to get to court was 200 days or more back in 2023, and it's got significantly worse since then. There's a vast backlog in the courts and in the CPS case files, and strangely enough that also got considerably worse under the last government.

The only cases that got turned around quickly have been the rioters, which was a government choice to stem widespread disorder.

Everyone else has to grind through the system, no matter how black and white your personal opinion on it is. It's not a fucking conspiracy.

If this particular case upsets you, then that's down to you, but I can't see any evidence that this is being treated differently to any other affray, assault, or assault police officer case that happens in every town, every Saturday night.

Charge to case completion at court - CJS Dashboard

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However, more than four months on from their arrest – 123 days to be precise and counting – there are still no charges despite the graphic CCTV footage.

Why, is the question a growing number of people are asking. To put this in context it takes, on average, less than half that time, just 55 days, to charge someone who has been arrested for an offence of 'violence against the person', which includes everything from assault to murder. In the most straightfoward cases, it can take only a matter of hours or days.

The images captured on video would suggest this was one such case.

In fact, the inquiries into Fahir and Muhammad by Greater Manchester Police were concluded in just over three weeks. But the lives and careers of the two officers remain on hold while life continues almost as normal for the brothers. 'It's usual for things to happen much quicker but the CPS is frightened of being criticised,' said an authoritative source in Greater Manchester Police who spoke to us on condition of anonymity. 'I suspect the political situation at the moment has a lot to do with it because of the ethnicity of the family.

'I have had conversations with the chief constable and the deputy chief constable about this. They are as frustrated as we are and as members of the public are but they can't say that publicly.'

@duffer Your stats are irrelevant.
Still think this isn’t evidence of a two tier “justice“ system? It gets worse and stinks more every day that passes.

 

[shmmeee]

However, more than four months on from their arrest – 123 days to be precise and counting – there are still no charges despite the graphic CCTV footage.

Why, is the question a growing number of people are asking. To put this in context it takes, on average, less than half that time, just 55 days, to charge someone who has been arrested for an offence of 'violence against the person', which includes everything from assault to murder. In the most straightfoward cases, it can take only a matter of hours or days.

The images captured on video would suggest this was one such case.

In fact, the inquiries into Fahir and Muhammad by Greater Manchester Police were concluded in just over three weeks. But the lives and careers of the two officers remain on hold while life continues almost as normal for the brothers. 'It's usual for things to happen much quicker but the CPS is frightened of being criticised,' said an authoritative source in Greater Manchester Police who spoke to us on condition of anonymity. 'I suspect the political situation at the moment has a lot to do with it because of the ethnicity of the family.

'I have had conversations with the chief constable and the deputy chief constable about this. They are as frustrated as we are and as members of the public are but they can't say that publicly.'

@duffer Your stats are irrelevant.
Still think this isn’t evidence of a two tier “justice“ system? It gets worse and stinks more every day that passes.

Starting to think you might be onto something with this two tier kier stuff. The difference in response between the Barbour Appreciation Society and Just Stop Oil bringing London to a standstill was stark.

 

[shmmeee]

Just going to drop this out there:

When politicians tell you that everyone else is corrupt and not to trust the media or the police, it’s not because they’re sincerely got your best interests at heart lads.

 

[MalcSB]

Starting to think you might be onto something with this two tier kier stuff. The difference in response between the Barbour Appreciation Society and Just Stop Oil bringing London to a standstill was stark.

How much disruption did the BAS cause to the average Londoner whilst gathering around parliament?
How many ambulances did they delay?
How many cancer patients going for chemotherapy missed their appointments?

 

[MalcSB]

Starting to think you might be onto something with this two tier kier stuff. The difference in response between the Barbour Appreciation Society and Just Stop Oil bringing London to a standstill was stark.

BAS weren't offered cups of tea?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

How much disruption did the BAS cause to the average Londoner whilst gathering around parliament?
How many ambulances did they delay?
How many cancer patients going for chemotherapy missed their appointments?

How many people might not need chemotherapy in the future if we convince govts to stop allowing carcinogens and pollutants to be pumped into the air/water?