But never played the successful if a bit unusual Regis/ Houchen partnership together again after the FA Cup final. I could say a lot about Speedie who was a terrific talent but would argue was he the right partner for big Cyrillie. Sill also signed Painter, Bannister, Drinkell, Martin Lane, Kevan Smith. But he give us our greatest moment which I doubt would have happened without his motivation skills.
Question when Curtis stepped aside who replaced him ?
But they didn't. Just say it, you were wrong.
Micky Adams got us to 8th in the Championship
By playing the most unattractive football we saw in many years, and then he was given money and royally spunked it all up the wall.
They couldn’t as promotion and those trophies weren’t available
Yes that must cancel it out his achievement then that his teams didn’t play 800 passes a game
How many promotions did Adams take us to?
Use whatever measure you want, Robins -> Adams.
Yes that must cancel out his achievement then because his team didn’t play 800 passes a game
Football is a results business
Why forget the sales of youth players?Forgetting the sales of our youth products like (Maddison, Stevenson, Bayliss, Wilson, Bigi, Harries etc)... How many players have we bought in and sold for a profit in the last 5/6 years?
Vincelot? - That money was reinvested
Sordell? - That money was reinvested
It seems to me that when a manager generates their own profit on a player they are given some of it back.
People saying "no other managers were given £750k to spend on Godden". No but he's built that up from getting McNulty on a free and selling him. Using half that money to buy Chaplin and sell him. Use some of that money to buy Godden. It all started from a free transfer.
8th in the Championship is a better achievement than 6th in League 2
A promotion from League One? We’re 4th and have 19 games remaining...Is it better than 6th in League Two, a cup, and promotion from League One?
Your argument that Micky Adams was a better manager for us than Mark Robins is an interesting take on things, not sure you're thinking too clearly :emoji_relaxed:
Forgetting the sales of our youth products like (Maddison, Stevenson, Bayliss, Wilson, Bigi, Harries etc)... How many players have we bought in and sold for a profit in the last 5/6 years?
Vincelot? - That money was reinvested (badly)
Sordell? - That money was reinvested (badly)
It seems to me that when a manager generates their own profit on a player they are given some of it back.
People saying "no other managers were given £750k to spend on Godden". No but he's built that up from getting McNulty on a free and selling him. Using half that money to buy Chaplin and sell him. Use some of that money to buy Godden. It all started from a free transfer.
And my whole argument is that if we get promoted then that puts him in the top three.A promotion from League One? We’re 4th and have 19 games remaining...
Why forget the sales of youth players?
Why forget the sales of youth players?
But earlier you were talking about how well Robins has done to develop Bayliss.Because the manager doesn't source them, they are already there. It was a great example of Robins managing properly and generating improvements to the team externally, as opposed to taking advantage of talent that was already in the club and which would have been there whoever the manager was.
which is true. But on top of that Robins can also work the market to improve the squad. Never saw anyone else do that in recent memory.But earlier you were talking about how well Robins has done to develop Bayliss.
Robins did, nobody else did. Facts kind of matter when you're stacking up achievements of managers, you don't have anywhere to go. Already Robins can put his achievements up against virtually every manager we've ever had and come out on top, if he goes one better then that just solidifies it.
Your agenda is clear- you wanted him booted out the door and you're not man enough to concede you were wrong.
But earlier you were talking about how well Robins has done to develop Bayliss.
In fact I'd say they go hand in hand for a very good football manager, such as Mark Robins.It is possible to develop existing players whilst still making money on external business. They're not mutually exclusive mate
You are correct, he’s one of only three managers to manage a promotion winning team here and one of those we finished seventh, unbelievable.And my whole argument is that if we get promoted then that puts him in the top three.
8th in the Championship is a better achievement than 6th in League 2
So you’d argue Graham Turner was a better manager at Wolves than Nunes?
Surely if you’re saying lower league achievements aren’t worth as much as mid table in the top division Jimmy Hill doesn’t come close? That can’t be right.
Would people agree he’s the best manager since the FA Cup win?
It is, do you think micky Adams would have got us promoted from league 2
Also I assume you’d argue he’s achieved more than Sam Allardyce?
Yep- just, although thats if we go up and Bobby Gould & Gordon Strachan might have something to say about it.
It is, do you think micky Adams would have got us promoted from league 2
I said to Stuart Linnell this is the best team on the pitch since Strachans “Entertainers”, but Strachan has Richardson mortgaging the clubs future to provide players. I never felt he was particularly tactically astute so much as has a sweet shop transfer budget.
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